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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4221
On August 30 2014 07:25 dark1882 wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:13 Rollora wrote:
omg MC knows he can't win without cheese...

errr then what was the first game? :o


Filthy 4-base macro timing
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44365 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 22:26:15
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4222
Is the VOD for game one out yet?????????? I want to watch again *-*

+ Show Spoiler +
How about now?

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How bout now?
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4223
On August 30 2014 07:25 boxerfred wrote:
Scarlett vs. Flash gonna be awesome!

its gonna be sad
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4224
On August 30 2014 07:24 Nebuchad wrote:
WCS crushing GSL

Yes, Life is GSL's last chance for agroup win, EU already has 2 in Snute and Yoda, could make it 3 if MC can win.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4225
Quick break, brb.
annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4226
On August 30 2014 07:18 TheAnarchy wrote:
Ok I wont complain about balance. This game was so logical 3 voidrays killing a player. Good work Blizzard good work

User was warned for this post

i agree 0 units at home should totally beat 4 void rays
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4227
On August 30 2014 07:24 Caihead wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:23 Province wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:21 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:20 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?

No idea where MC lives but if its europe than there's no real difference.


You clearly don't know how terrible 11-12 hour jetlag actually can be.


If they have to play within that period then maybe whine at the team in question instead of conjuring nonsense excuses?


Was just stating the reality of the situation playing global tournaments, how is that nonsense? Homefield advantages are a real thing in any sport.


Mc had 7 hours of Jetlag at least too
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4228
Flash, I think, is one of those Korean pros, kinda like CJ Trust, who doesn't know what the meta is like or what the builds are outside of Korea. That's why Trust got smashed so hard by Violet in Red Bull. He had only played lower-end foreigners and in-Korea Koreans, so he didn't know what the higher-end players outside of Korea were doing or how to counter it.
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4229
On August 30 2014 07:24 zimms wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:21 plogamer wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:13 TheDwf wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:13 KeksX wrote:
How come Flash is so bad at playing against cheese? It's like he's completely clueless as to what is happening...?

And how would you scout what MC did?

What if flash scouted out the location of the proxy stargate, and attack that instead of going to MC's main? That would require a smaller commitment of units and thus able to leave behind more marines in defense against void rays or more oracles.

Flash would then have a smaller lead compared to killing probes at the nexus, but that's better than risking being killed by voidray backstab.

But given the fact that MC killed quite a few probes with dual oracles, maybe Flash would not be ahead without killing probes. Your thoughts?


Yeah, just guess where the fuck on the map the Stargate is. And a small force wouldn't be enough against 2 oracles and whatever comes out of the Starport next.


Flash would know there was a proxy if he had scouted the number of pylons in base and immediately started scouting map with an scv.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4230
(T)Flash vs (Z)Scarlett on http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2
(P)MC vs (Z)Life on http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2b
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4231
On August 30 2014 07:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the VOD for game one out yet?????????? I want to watch again *-*

+ Show Spoiler +
How about now?

+ Show Spoiler +
How bout now?

Gimme 2 minutes
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4232
On August 30 2014 07:26 annedeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:18 TheAnarchy wrote:
Ok I wont complain about balance. This game was so logical 3 voidrays killing a player. Good work Blizzard good work

User was warned for this post

i agree 0 units at home should totally beat 4 void rays

Should be able to airstrike voidrays with mules
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4233
flash vs. scarlet for elimination why
Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4234
On August 30 2014 07:24 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:23 Province wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:21 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:20 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?

No idea where MC lives but if its europe than there's no real difference.


You clearly don't know how terrible 11-12 hour jetlag actually can be.


If they have to play within that period then maybe whine at the team in question instead of conjuring nonsense excuses?


Was just stating the reality of the situation playing global tournaments, how is that nonsense? Homefield advantages are a real thing in any sport.



Sure they are, yet if jetlag is a significant factor then it can be easily solved by earlier flights. Thus your ire should be directed at teams for directly creating conditions in which their players suffer ill effects, no?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4235
Scarlett isnt usually that tricky so that will probably play well for Flash
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4236
On August 30 2014 07:26 Topin wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:25 boxerfred wrote:
Scarlett vs. Flash gonna be awesome!

its gonna be sad


Scarlett is gonna invoke more Flash-whine!
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4237
On August 30 2014 07:24 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:23 Province wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:21 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:20 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?

No idea where MC lives but if its europe than there's no real difference.


You clearly don't know how terrible 11-12 hour jetlag actually can be.


If they have to play within that period then maybe whine at the team in question instead of conjuring nonsense excuses?


Was just stating the reality of the situation playing global tournaments, how is that nonsense? Homefield advantages are a real thing in any sport.

But warpgate mechanic totally negates the homefield advantage of other races!
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Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4238
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?


He won the mlg exhibition tournament when Kespa had just switched
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4239
I want to know why Twitch literally does not work even at 240p when I usually have no trouble with 720p =/
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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#4240
On August 30 2014 07:22 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:20 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 Lorning wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?

Cause MC outplayed Flash the entire series


Blind guessed in game 3, lost to a gamble in game 2, how is this out played?


One guy spent his week studying and making a battle plan to take out his opponent. The other guy played as normal.

The implication that MC planned almost any of that is hilarious. I know you've watched MC before and we both know that is exactly how he always plays. Literally always. Ever since GSL season 3. Seriously.

yep. since GSL open season 3 he always studies his opponennts and tailors the builds he uses against them for them specifically. MC is, just as MVP was, a tactical genie, who makes up for his lack in macro with superior strategizing and decision making.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the nickname Game Genie Terran supposed to be that MVP has units 'hacked' in, refering to his impeccable macro.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
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