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[IEM] Season IX - Toronto Day 2 - Page 210

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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4181
So much salt on LR you would think Toronto turned into Goderich, Ontario which has the largest salt mine in the world.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4182
On August 30 2014 07:22 PerSe wrote:
Dunno why the fan boys are bitching. Flash played sloppy and MC played smart.


Cause everybody likes to pretend MC is a super genius when really the people innovating in PvX match ups are genius / pigbaby / sOs etc.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4183
On August 30 2014 07:22 mikumegurine wrote:
IEM Toronto

FINALLY a Foreigner trophy?

top 4 foreigner finish at IEM Shenzhen is not enough

Foreigners defend tha Canada, and WIN IT ALL this time!

If Scarlett beats Flash despite all the hype he has and makes a championship run I think I can walk the rest of my life a happy man.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4184
On August 30 2014 07:21 J. Corsair wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
holy shit this thread has gone full retard

Welcome to LRs, is this your first time?

I'm still relatively new here, but even I recognize the stupidity of many of these statements. People either don't understand how good MC is or either just don't care (i.e. they're stupid).

I'm a huge Flash fan, but how was MC supposed to play? Flash has been murdering Protoss all month, he pulled out the unexpected and won with it. Give him credit, he's won a great deal of money playing this game.

If you read between the lines, that's exactly what everybody's been saying.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4185
On August 30 2014 07:21 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:20 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?

No idea where MC lives but if its europe than there's no real difference.


You clearly don't know how terrible 11-12 hour jetlag actually can be.


If they have to play within that period then maybe whine at the team in question instead of conjuring nonsense excuses?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4186
Poll: Who will win?

Life (16)
 
64%

MC (9)
 
36%

25 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): MC
(Vote): Life


Poll: Who will win?

Flash (16)
 
52%

Scarlett (15)
 
48%

31 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Scarlett

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4187
On August 30 2014 07:20 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:18 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 Lorning wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?

Cause MC outplayed Flash the entire series


Blind guessed in game 3, lost to a gamble in game 2, how is this out played?


One guy spent his week studying and making a battle plan to take out his opponent. The other guy played as normal.

The implication that MC planned almost any of that is hilarious. I know you've watched MC before and we both know that is exactly how he always plays. Literally always. Ever since GSL season 3. Seriously.


He just said he did. Why would he lie about it?
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4188
On August 30 2014 07:21 J. Corsair wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
holy shit this thread has gone full retard

Welcome to LRs, is this your first time?

I'm still relatively new here, but even I recognize the stupidity of many of these statements. People either don't understand how good MC is or either just don't care (i.e. they're stupid).


it's called baiting. It's fun.

Cue for The_Templar. Anything to say to Scarlett?

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4189
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?

If he has, not one you wouldn't expect him two, Kongjwa seems to be the name of the game for the big three from BW.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4190
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?

If you consider MLG's sort-of invitational a tournament (back when KeSPA just transitioned) then yes.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4191
I just happened to tune in right in the middle of game 1 of Flash vs MC - From everything i've seen this year, match of the year so far. Game 3 was just awesome to watch, game 1 had amazing micro from Flash (i wonder if anyone noticed, the casters didn't seem to).... Just fun from start to finish.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 29 2014 22:23 GMT
#4192
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?

No Premier. He won the bw invitational thing (with Bisu and co playing), but that was, when kespa didn't really had figured out the game yet.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4193
On August 30 2014 07:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?

If he has, not one you wouldn't expect him two, Kongjwa seems to be the name of the game for the big three from BW.

He won the kespa exhibition :>
Glorious SEA doto
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4194
On August 30 2014 07:20 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:20 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Always a good day when Flash loses, hope Scarlett annihilates him

Let's be friends.


Okie dokie buddy :D
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4195
On August 30 2014 07:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:22 redviper wrote:
Has Flash ever won a tournament in Sc2?

If he has, not one you wouldn't expect him two, Kongjwa seems to be the name of the game for the big three from BW.

I think the only thing he's one is that exhibition tournament of all BW pros when they first switched
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zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4196
On August 30 2014 07:21 plogamer wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:13 TheDwf wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:13 KeksX wrote:
How come Flash is so bad at playing against cheese? It's like he's completely clueless as to what is happening...?

And how would you scout what MC did?

What if flash scouted out the location of the proxy stargate, and attack that instead of going to MC's main? That would require a smaller commitment of units and thus able to leave behind more marines in defense against void rays or more oracles.

Flash would then have a smaller lead compared to killing probes at the nexus, but that's better than risking being killed by voidray backstab.

But given the fact that MC killed quite a few probes with dual oracles, maybe Flash would not be ahead without killing probes. Your thoughts?


Yeah, just guess where the fuck on the map the Stargate is. And a small force wouldn't be enough against 2 oracles and whatever comes out of the Starport next.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4197
On August 30 2014 07:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:19 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 checkupriv wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Rollora wrote:
yeah, Protoss still cheeser race that brings you to the win even if you are an inferiour player

User was warned for this post


You must have missed when MC out macroed Flash with better deciosns and micro in g1.

the game where flash got 50 supply ahead through macro alone?


Macro isnt just about making units. Its about making the right unit compositions, right tech and right economic decisions.


Well i wouldn't call that outplayed in macro. Flash could have won that game if he hadn't overcommit so much. MC capitalized through every mistake flash made.

He did not miss a single mistake to get.

that's really impressive for MC.


Yea, MC was just smarter than Flash


The experience talked a lot in that game. You could see Flash didn't know how MC could be back like that. That was really impressive from MC
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4198
Are they gonna show both matches back to back ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4199
Come on Flash pull it back! Beat Scarlett and get through in 2nd!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#4200
On August 30 2014 07:23 Province wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:21 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:20 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:18 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?

No idea where MC lives but if its europe than there's no real difference.


You clearly don't know how terrible 11-12 hour jetlag actually can be.


If they have to play within that period then maybe whine at the team in question instead of conjuring nonsense excuses?


Was just stating the reality of the situation playing global tournaments, how is that nonsense? Homefield advantages are a real thing in any sport.
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