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werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#401
Full Foreigner ... WHY?
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#402
Morrow, you came so close ;;
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#403
Full foreigner *Kappa*

User was warned for this post
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#404
I think Morrow fucks up his vikings movements, but a win is still a win so ggwp, San (L)
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#405
Failed SCV pulls never fail to bring joy to my heart.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
August 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#406
So sad that 2/3 TvPs are SCV pulls :/ it used to be my favorite MU
monchi | IdrA | Flash
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 20 2014 17:50 GMT
#407
On August 21 2014 02:47 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:45 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.

We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.

These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:

San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.

We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.

Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.

Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.

Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.

I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.


Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all.


I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception.
Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU.



If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays?


I can, thats why i said its ok. I just dont want this to become the default option because player XYZ doesnt feel like playing from korea at a certain time. I know you didnt do this for korean players in the past, but once you start you never know how far people try to push you.

Again, i really dont mind it. Just make sure its not becoming the default option.


San is the only one who lives in Korea
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 20 2014 17:50 GMT
#408
On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.

We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.

These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:

San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.

We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.

Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.

Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.

Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.

I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.


the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it.


What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44368 Posts
August 20 2014 17:50 GMT
#409
On August 21 2014 02:49 werynais wrote:
Full Foreigner ... WHY?


This isn't full foreigner >.> He wasn't overwhelmingly ahead this game and then threw it all away.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2014 17:50 GMT
#410
San switched on Korean mode
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 20 2014 17:50 GMT
#411
Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
 
25%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
44%

★★★- Good game (4)
 
25%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
6%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
August 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#412
On August 21 2014 02:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:49 werynais wrote:
Full Foreigner ... WHY?


This isn't full foreigner >.> He wasn't overwhelmingly ahead this game and then threw it all away.


Yeah but that fight should have been much closer
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#413
Morrow should still pull though in the next rounds
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
August 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#414
Morrow micros his vikings in a very strange way, he seems to shoot and then come closer to the colossi every time. The intention may be fine -probably not letting the colossi micro back I guess ?- but it essentially resulted in eating full archon hits, which I'm not sure is the researched goal.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#415
On August 21 2014 02:50 Noonius wrote:
San switched on Korean mode


And that forced Morrow to play bad?
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#416
On August 21 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.

We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.

These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:

San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.

We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.

Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.

Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.

Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.

I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.


the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it.


What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity!


yes, I would. It's the principle of the matter.


Terran forever | Maru hater forever
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#417
On August 21 2014 02:48 RHoudini wrote:
Hey, this looks like my playing style.
One (1) zealot in my main, and my whole army returns!

*rapidly spamming F2 into 1a*
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#418
I bet Morrow and San will rematch in the final match
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#419
On August 21 2014 02:50 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:47 BlackCompany wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:45 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.

We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.

These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:

San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.

We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.

Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.

Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.

Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.

I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.


Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all.


I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception.
Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU.



If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays?


I can, thats why i said its ok. I just dont want this to become the default option because player XYZ doesnt feel like playing from korea at a certain time. I know you didnt do this for korean players in the past, but once you start you never know how far people try to push you.

Again, i really dont mind it. Just make sure its not becoming the default option.


San is the only one who lives in Korea


Yes, you are right. But maybe one of them travels to korea like Tod did to US today?
I understand why people dont mind, my opinion is slightly different but its not like i stop watching WCS or hate ESL because of a replay cast.
Lets just try to enjoy the rest of the games from today ( and hope Bunny wins ofc!)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 20 2014 17:52 GMT
#420
On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
 
25%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
44%

★★★- Good game (4)
 
25%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
6%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


What is this? Result are hidden?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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