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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 27 2014 13:06 GMT
#41
On August 14 2014 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 09:47 Undead1993 wrote:
tbh i am not a fan of your casting, but you did a great job hosting the Taiwan Open and i have to admire your dedication, breaker.


To be honest, Chinese is one of the hardest languages to learn in the world for English speakers. It's ranked as Category 3 (the hardest category) by the US State Department: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers

I have a lot of respect for BreakerTV because he got so fluent in Mandarin. You can bet BreakerTV worked his a** off to become fluent in Mandarin.

Just give BreakerTV some casting tips. With the amount of dedication he spent to learning Mandarin, I don't doubt that he can easily pick up your tips to improve his casting.


To be frank, personally I think that list is bullshit. There is no way that German or French is so much easier to learn than Chinese. Yes, there is a huge undeniable difference between English and Chinese, but they seem to forget that Chinese has next to no grammar.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 13:18:05
August 27 2014 13:17 GMT
#42
On August 27 2014 22:06 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:
On August 14 2014 09:47 Undead1993 wrote:
tbh i am not a fan of your casting, but you did a great job hosting the Taiwan Open and i have to admire your dedication, breaker.


To be honest, Chinese is one of the hardest languages to learn in the world for English speakers. It's ranked as Category 3 (the hardest category) by the US State Department: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers

I have a lot of respect for BreakerTV because he got so fluent in Mandarin. You can bet BreakerTV worked his a** off to become fluent in Mandarin.

Just give BreakerTV some casting tips. With the amount of dedication he spent to learning Mandarin, I don't doubt that he can easily pick up your tips to improve his casting.


To be frank, personally I think that list is bullshit. There is no way that German or French is so much easier to learn than Chinese. Yes, there is a huge undeniable difference between English and Chinese, but they seem to forget that Chinese has next to no grammar.

Well, take it from a guy with three credentials in the language as well as a degree: HSK Level III, HSK level IV, and 8 points short of earning HSK Level V (I failed the test by 8 points).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanyu_Shuiping_Kaoshi

Persistance is key with learning any language, but with Chinese and Japanese, this is more heavily iterated than anything else, because just to learn to read a casual conversation in Chinese, a realistic one at that, you will have to sit down with a book and write every single word that you want to say for a year or two. At least, that's what I did.

Throw me a book in German or Dutch, and I can learn to speak in a comparatively shorter period of time.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 27 2014 13:29 GMT
#43
Yeah, here is me hoping that they will scrap the entire written language of Chinese and scrap it for just pinyin... <.<
Seirously, I can speak the language fluently, so why are you making it artificially hard for me to write it...?
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
August 27 2014 16:16 GMT
#44
On August 27 2014 22:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Yeah, here is me hoping that they will scrap the entire written language of Chinese and scrap it for just pinyin... <.<
Seirously, I can speak the language fluently, so why are you making it artificially hard for me to write it...?

Personally I think they should just keep it the way it is because I worked so hard to learn it - both simplified and traditional script. xD
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 27 2014 18:20 GMT
#45
On August 27 2014 22:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Yeah, here is me hoping that they will scrap the entire written language of Chinese and scrap it for just pinyin... <.<
Seirously, I can speak the language fluently, so why are you making it artificially hard for me to write it...?

That idea was brought up literally 100 years ago as part of the New Culture Movement, scrapped after people finding it impractical to do.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
September 05 2014 07:12 GMT
#46
On August 27 2014 22:06 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:
On August 14 2014 09:47 Undead1993 wrote:
tbh i am not a fan of your casting, but you did a great job hosting the Taiwan Open and i have to admire your dedication, breaker.


To be honest, Chinese is one of the hardest languages to learn in the world for English speakers. It's ranked as Category 3 (the hardest category) by the US State Department: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers

I have a lot of respect for BreakerTV because he got so fluent in Mandarin. You can bet BreakerTV worked his a** off to become fluent in Mandarin.

Just give BreakerTV some casting tips. With the amount of dedication he spent to learning Mandarin, I don't doubt that he can easily pick up your tips to improve his casting.


To be frank, personally I think that list is bullshit. There is no way that German or French is so much easier to learn than Chinese. Yes, there is a huge undeniable difference between English and Chinese, but they seem to forget that Chinese has next to no grammar.

I speak Spanish and some Chinese. Speaking Chinese is easy, although getting the word order right can be confusing sometimes.

The thing that kills it is the writing system. It basically doubles the amount of memorizing you have to do (because learning the vocabulary is the hardest part of any language.....I still learn new words in my native language, for example).
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
September 05 2014 07:13 GMT
#47
On August 28 2014 01:16 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 22:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Yeah, here is me hoping that they will scrap the entire written language of Chinese and scrap it for just pinyin... <.<
Seirously, I can speak the language fluently, so why are you making it artificially hard for me to write it...?

Personally I think they should just keep it the way it is because I worked so hard to learn it - both simplified and traditional script. xD

Personally I think that's the real reason they won't scrap it.
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 04:00:06
September 06 2014 03:59 GMT
#48
So much PvP... O_O

EDIT: At least the Winner's Finals will be interesting. I think Snute vs Jaedong will be good to watch.
Moonblade
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland5 Posts
September 06 2014 08:15 GMT
#49
Good job breaker, really appreciate your job.
Snute in finals ^_^
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Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 06 2014 08:39 GMT
#50
The Chinese stream should be in the side-bar of TL.net (Like they have on LiquidDota). If the Chinese stream has even half of what a Dota2 stream has it will pull people to your English stream. (power of positive advertising). ♥
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
September 06 2014 10:52 GMT
#51
This is quite the epic match. Not great, but very close.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Idiocracy1
Profile Joined August 2014
Bulgaria26 Posts
September 07 2014 06:26 GMT
#52
Are there VODs of the final between JD and Snute? It was like 5am where I live and couldn't watch it.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
September 07 2014 06:36 GMT
#53
Thank you for watching, I will try to dice-up the vods and put them on youtube when I get back home tomorrow.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Idiocracy1
Profile Joined August 2014
Bulgaria26 Posts
September 07 2014 06:42 GMT
#54
Thanks, I watched the first two days, overall a great tournament, was the final onstage?
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