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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:56 GMT
#261
lol I love the Aggressive expo to deny TY's gas.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:56 GMT
#262
On June 23 2014 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:54 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:46 TheDwf wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.

Assuming no CS, Roaches win easily.

I've tried it multiple times with my friend, and every time he was left with ~15 Marines, so no.

Without upgrades, without stim, without anything, just move and hit.

Didn't move either of the sides, just a similar concave at the beginning of the fight. Result was 7 Roaches left.

I've moved both sides close to each other so both of them can shoot and that was when 17 Marines left in the end. Well, Roaches definitely favor bigger concave where Marines favor a clumped up group, I think that is the only reason.

Dwf is right, no way 30 marines without stim randomly beat down 15 roaches.

That is exactly what my friend had said back then, and was in awe when 17 Marines left in the end. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 23 2014 12:56 GMT
#263
On June 23 2014 21:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:46 TheDwf wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.

Assuming no CS, Roaches win easily.

I've tried it multiple times with my friend, and every time he was left with ~15 Marines, so no.

Without upgrades, without stim, without anything, just move and hit.

30 marines without stim, CS or medivacs will lose to 15 roaches. If your friend manages to beat up AND have 15 marines alive he should become a progamer. First hots bonjwa incoming.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#264
yeah but basically i believe DWF's results, not yours.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#265
101 drones vs 83 SCVs.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#266
On June 23 2014 21:55 Superbanana wrote:
I already saw this movie, zerg is in trouble

The sequels never get better. There was a gem called jjakji vs revival tho.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8585 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#267
how does TY want to win this I wonder?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#268
101 is the perfect number
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
June 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#269
Lack of blue flame really hurting these hellion runbys
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:58 GMT
#270
On June 23 2014 21:57 Undead1993 wrote:
101 is the perfect number

Outdroning the queen herself.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:58 GMT
#271
On June 23 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
yeah but basically i believe DWF's results, not yours.

Yeah, but basically, you should try it yourself, and no believe in somebody's else results.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
June 23 2014 12:58 GMT
#272
On June 23 2014 21:57 Doublemint wrote:
how does TY want to win this I wonder?


Mass raven, avilo-style.

On June 23 2014 21:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:55 Superbanana wrote:
I already saw this movie, zerg is in trouble

The sequels never get better. There was a gem called jjakji vs revival tho.


Also jjakji vs HyuN on Heavy Rain.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:59 GMT
#273
lol soO's lings are taking out so many tanks.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 23 2014 12:59 GMT
#274
soo playing the first to 20000 minerals game
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:59 GMT
#275
On June 23 2014 21:58 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:57 Doublemint wrote:
how does TY want to win this I wonder?


Mass raven, avilo-style.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:55 Superbanana wrote:
I already saw this movie, zerg is in trouble

The sequels never get better. There was a gem called jjakji vs revival tho.


Also jjakji vs HyuN on Heavy Rain.

When was that?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 23 2014 13:00 GMT
#276
I think soO should just make 100 spores/spines and mass vipers to abduct every TY unit
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 23 2014 13:00 GMT
#277
On June 23 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
yeah but basically i believe DWF's results, not yours.

Yeah, but basically, you should try it yourself, and no believe in somebody's else results.

I don't know what kind of test you ran but I just microed 30 Marines shift focusing Roaches on a-move and 5 Roaches were left.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 23 2014 13:00 GMT
#278
this is the most boring sc2 after swarm hosts vs swarm hosts and bls vs bls
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 13:00 GMT
#279
lol 13k 8k bank for soO.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 13:01 GMT
#280
On June 23 2014 22:00 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
yeah but basically i believe DWF's results, not yours.

Yeah, but basically, you should try it yourself, and no believe in somebody's else results.

I don't know what kind of test you ran but I just microed 30 Marines shift focusing Roaches on a-move and 5 Roaches were left.



This isn't 15, but it is 14 Roaches, enjoy.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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