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On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. Stats's Zealot count was too low so he didn't have anything to buffer. Strangely enough Stats had a lot of Stalkers despite not opening with Blink.
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On June 23 2014 21:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Stats vs Rain?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (9) 64% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (4) 29% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stats vs Rain? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.
I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and immortals are also less gas-intensive)
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On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.
I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.
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On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive) they both do pretty shitty against each other, but immortal wins because hardened shield
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Immortals are good to tank archon shots, not to kill archons.
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Bring back Round 1 TY pls.
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On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive) Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario? 1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.
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The Proleague crowd is amazing today.
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On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.
An immo beats an archon one on one
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On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units. An immo beats an archon one on one Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines?
Doesn't work that way.
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On June 23 2014 21:41 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.
Still, shields + the fact that Archons do rather weak damage against non bio gives immos the edge in my experience.
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On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units. An immo beats an archon one on one Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights.
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On June 23 2014 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units. An immo beats an archon one on one Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines? Doesn't work that way.
Well, it does mean that armies with a higher immo count against the archon count are usually stronger.
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On June 23 2014 21:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units. An immo beats an archon one on one Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights. don't even think that's true anymore after the hydra buff
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Let it be shown today that TY is godly.
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looking for that Reality mech to come out pleaaase
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On June 23 2014 21:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote: Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy. No, not really? Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons. I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive) Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario? 1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches. Assuming no CS, Roaches win easily.
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