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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 23 2014 12:39 GMT
#221
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

Stats's Zealot count was too low so he didn't have anything to buffer. Strangely enough Stats had a lot of Stalkers despite not opening with Blink.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:40 GMT
#222
On June 23 2014 21:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Stats vs Rain?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (9)
 
64%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
 
29%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stats vs Rain?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
torav
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy23 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 12:41:25
June 23 2014 12:40 GMT
#223
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and immortals are also less gas-intensive)
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#224
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.


I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#225
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

they both do pretty shitty against each other, but immortal wins because hardened shield
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#226
Immortals are good to tank archon shots, not to kill archons.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 23 2014 12:42 GMT
#227
Bring back Round 1 TY pls.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:42 GMT
#228
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#229
The Proleague crowd is amazing today.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#230
TY on a slump! ^^
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#231
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#232
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines?

Doesn't work that way.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8585 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#233
On June 23 2014 21:41 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.


I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.


Still, shields + the fact that Archons do rather weak damage against non bio gives immos the edge in my experience.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 12:46:49
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#234
don't wall off against random
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#235
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#236
On June 23 2014 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines?

Doesn't work that way.


Well, it does mean that armies with a higher immo count against the archon count are usually stronger.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#237
On June 23 2014 21:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights.

don't even think that's true anymore after the hydra buff
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#238
Let it be shown today that TY is godly.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 23 2014 12:46 GMT
#239
looking for that Reality mech to come out pleaaase
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 23 2014 12:46 GMT
#240
On June 23 2014 21:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.

Assuming no CS, Roaches win easily.
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