• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:42
CEST 01:42
KST 08:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Semifinals A
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1573 users

[SPL] KT vs SKT T1 Round 4 2014 - Page 12

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 20 Next All
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 23 2014 12:39 GMT
#221
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

Stats's Zealot count was too low so he didn't have anything to buffer. Strangely enough Stats had a lot of Stalkers despite not opening with Blink.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:40 GMT
#222
On June 23 2014 21:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Stats vs Rain?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (9)
 
64%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
 
29%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stats vs Rain?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
torav
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy23 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 12:41:25
June 23 2014 12:40 GMT
#223
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and immortals are also less gas-intensive)
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#224
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.


I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#225
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I think that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

they both do pretty shitty against each other, but immortal wins because hardened shield
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#226
Immortals are good to tank archon shots, not to kill archons.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 23 2014 12:42 GMT
#227
Bring back Round 1 TY pls.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:42 GMT
#228
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#229
The Proleague crowd is amazing today.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#230
TY on a slump! ^^
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
June 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#231
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#232
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines?

Doesn't work that way.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#233
On June 23 2014 21:41 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.


I think its a bit of a missconception though, Archons aren't armored, so Immortals only deal 20 damage to them. With 350 shields and 10 HP Archons are also very, very tanky, and they have aoe, which means they drain trough Immortal shields faster then usual. So now that I think of it, Archons rock.


Still, shields + the fact that Archons do rather weak damage against non bio gives immos the edge in my experience.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5616 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 12:46:49
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#234
don't wall off against random
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 12:44 GMT
#235
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#236
On June 23 2014 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah, and 1 Roach beats 2 Marines, conclusion Roaches are good against Marines?

Doesn't work that way.


Well, it does mean that armies with a higher immo count against the archon count are usually stronger.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#237
On June 23 2014 21:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:43 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.

EDIT: Actually. out of all units, Immortals do the worst against Archons, since Archons are the toughest non-armored units.


An immo beats an archon one on one

Yeah but a stalker beats a hydra one on one, not in big fights. Not a good benchmark for the strength of a unit in bigger fights.

don't even think that's true anymore after the hydra buff
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 23 2014 12:45 GMT
#238
Let it be shown today that TY is godly.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 23 2014 12:46 GMT
#239
looking for that Reality mech to come out pleaaase
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 23 2014 12:46 GMT
#240
On June 23 2014 21:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 21:40 torav wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:38 Doublemint wrote:
Very strange, usually immos do insane damage against Archons and I was quite sure stats was in a good spot. Must have let the immos fire on the zealots which is very sloppy.

No, not really?

Archons aren't armored, Immortals are pretty bad against Archons.


I'm pretty sure that an immortal wins against an archon in 1vs1 (and they are also less gas-intensive)

Why would you think about it as 1v1 Scenario?
1 Roach can win against 2 Marines easily, but 30 Marines WITHOUT Stim melts 15 Roaches.

Assuming no CS, Roaches win easily.
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:30
Best Games
Maru vs Rogue
ByuN vs herO
Maru vs Classic
SHIN vs Zoun
Clem vs MaxPax
SHIN vs ByuN
PiGStarcraft396
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft396
ByuN 319
NeuroSwarm 164
ProTech128
JuggernautJason70
Dota 2
monkeys_forever522
League of Legends
JimRising 61
Counter-Strike
fl0m9980
Other Games
gofns18734
tarik_tv10252
summit1g7816
FrodaN2965
C9.Mang0362
elazer109
ViBE79
Livibee48
Trikslyr47
PPMD21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick548
BasetradeTV75
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 60
• RyuSc2 33
• Adnapsc2 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 46
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21160
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
3h 18m
RSL Revival
10h 18m
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
16h 18m
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
19h 18m
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
1d 8h
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
1d 16h
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
1d 19h
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-14
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.