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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#101
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#102
On June 20 2014 18:51 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:47 Circumstance wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:45 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:36 Dingodile wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:32 Zzzapper wrote:
I don't get why Koreans only ever make roaches in ZvZ. In situations like this, it seems like hydras would make a huge difference and they both have the bank for it

roaches are much more forgiving. If your attack with hydra failed one time, you are pretty much dead. fungals sucks in HotS.

But when you're in the GSL semis you should be at a point where you don't have to rely on being able to makes mistakes. A 50/50 roach/hydra mix beats pure roaches extremely hard in anything resembling a close engagement


Problem is, unless you can pretty much kill the pure Roach player with the Roach-Hydra, the opponent is able to meat Hydra tech with Roach-Bane (and possibly Roach-Infestor? Haven't seen those 2 comps face off.)

You'll usually mix in a few infestors with roach/hydra, just 4 or 5 perhaps. This makes roach/bane completely useless because the banes will just get fungaled if they're not spread and killed if they are spread.


Well, if you're giving the opponent time to establish 2 different techs on top of the Roaches, while you're neither teching up nor pressuring, you have only yourself to blame.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#103
On June 20 2014 18:54 Lorning wrote:
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match


soO is insanely good at all things ZvZ. His record is getting pretty ridiculous.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#104
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs. soO Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
6%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
17%

★★★- Good game (11)
 
61%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
6%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs. soO Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

The world is better when every background has a chance.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17664 Posts
June 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#105
please no 4-0
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#106
GSL seems to like rock/metal.. although not the very best of it tho ^^
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1792 Posts
June 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#107
On June 20 2014 18:55 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:51 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:47 Circumstance wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:45 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:36 Dingodile wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:32 Zzzapper wrote:
I don't get why Koreans only ever make roaches in ZvZ. In situations like this, it seems like hydras would make a huge difference and they both have the bank for it

roaches are much more forgiving. If your attack with hydra failed one time, you are pretty much dead. fungals sucks in HotS.

But when you're in the GSL semis you should be at a point where you don't have to rely on being able to makes mistakes. A 50/50 roach/hydra mix beats pure roaches extremely hard in anything resembling a close engagement


Problem is, unless you can pretty much kill the pure Roach player with the Roach-Hydra, the opponent is able to meat Hydra tech with Roach-Bane (and possibly Roach-Infestor? Haven't seen those 2 comps face off.)

You'll usually mix in a few infestors with roach/hydra, just 4 or 5 perhaps. This makes roach/bane completely useless because the banes will just get fungaled if they're not spread and killed if they are spread.


Well, if you're giving the opponent time to establish 2 different techs on top of the Roaches, while you're neither teching up nor pressuring, you have only yourself to blame.

If you look at game 1, True was floating 6000/2000 at some point which is more than enough for a single roach max. If he held a good "defensive" position on soO's side of the map, he could at least have made the tech without being in any real danger and then looked into applying it if it made sense later on
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
June 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#108
No SKT final plz :/
I love hellbats
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
June 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#109
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 20 2014 10:03 GMT
#110
On June 20 2014 19:02 GreenMash wrote:
No SKT final plz :/

Who knows, maybe it will be a super emotional Boxer vs oov 2.0
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 20 2014 10:03 GMT
#111
On June 20 2014 19:00 Muffloe wrote:
GSL seems to like rock/metal.. although not the very best of it tho ^^


that's EXACTLY what you need for your music though
maru lover forever
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 10:05:13
June 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#112
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !
gotta prep yo
Moderatorlickypiddy
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#113
yeah 11k now vs 18k for maru vs protoss
maru lover forever
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#114
riven is fantastic, tasteless

also who doesn't know what myst is come on
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1792 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#115
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#116
On June 20 2014 18:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:54 Lorning wrote:
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match


soO is insanely good at all things ZvZ. His record is getting pretty ridiculous.


Record: 30 wins - 23 losses (56.60%)

Not that extreme, unless TLPD isn't updated (looks like it is).
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#117
On June 20 2014 19:05 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?


Sleep can only be replaced by passion to a certain degree.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3351 Posts
June 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#118
I d like to see soO win it all, for his 3rd try you know...
Horang2 fan
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#119
On June 20 2014 19:05 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?

I mean prepping for it i guess, but yeah it's probably cause of it being zvz D:
Moderatorlickypiddy
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#120
On June 20 2014 19:06 WGT-Baal wrote:
I d like to see soO win it all, for his 3rd try you know...


I'd like that too.. But I have this strong feeling that he will get protossed really hard for some reason. Like 4-1 with standard good protoss pushes.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
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