• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:17
CEST 17:17
KST 00:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview8TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection5Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? What kind of tool would you be interested in? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BW animated web series: seeking contributors FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5077 users

[Code S] Ro4 Day 2 Season 2 2014 - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 14 Next All
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#101
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match
Community News
TL+ Member
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#102
On June 20 2014 18:51 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:47 Circumstance wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:45 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:36 Dingodile wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:32 Zzzapper wrote:
I don't get why Koreans only ever make roaches in ZvZ. In situations like this, it seems like hydras would make a huge difference and they both have the bank for it

roaches are much more forgiving. If your attack with hydra failed one time, you are pretty much dead. fungals sucks in HotS.

But when you're in the GSL semis you should be at a point where you don't have to rely on being able to makes mistakes. A 50/50 roach/hydra mix beats pure roaches extremely hard in anything resembling a close engagement


Problem is, unless you can pretty much kill the pure Roach player with the Roach-Hydra, the opponent is able to meat Hydra tech with Roach-Bane (and possibly Roach-Infestor? Haven't seen those 2 comps face off.)

You'll usually mix in a few infestors with roach/hydra, just 4 or 5 perhaps. This makes roach/bane completely useless because the banes will just get fungaled if they're not spread and killed if they are spread.


Well, if you're giving the opponent time to establish 2 different techs on top of the Roaches, while you're neither teching up nor pressuring, you have only yourself to blame.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#103
On June 20 2014 18:54 Lorning wrote:
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match


soO is insanely good at all things ZvZ. His record is getting pretty ridiculous.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#104
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs. soO Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
6%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
17%

★★★- Good game (11)
 
61%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
6%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs. soO Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

The world is better when every background has a chance.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
June 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#105
please no 4-0
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#106
GSL seems to like rock/metal.. although not the very best of it tho ^^
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
June 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#107
On June 20 2014 18:55 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:51 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:47 Circumstance wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:45 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:36 Dingodile wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:32 Zzzapper wrote:
I don't get why Koreans only ever make roaches in ZvZ. In situations like this, it seems like hydras would make a huge difference and they both have the bank for it

roaches are much more forgiving. If your attack with hydra failed one time, you are pretty much dead. fungals sucks in HotS.

But when you're in the GSL semis you should be at a point where you don't have to rely on being able to makes mistakes. A 50/50 roach/hydra mix beats pure roaches extremely hard in anything resembling a close engagement


Problem is, unless you can pretty much kill the pure Roach player with the Roach-Hydra, the opponent is able to meat Hydra tech with Roach-Bane (and possibly Roach-Infestor? Haven't seen those 2 comps face off.)

You'll usually mix in a few infestors with roach/hydra, just 4 or 5 perhaps. This makes roach/bane completely useless because the banes will just get fungaled if they're not spread and killed if they are spread.


Well, if you're giving the opponent time to establish 2 different techs on top of the Roaches, while you're neither teching up nor pressuring, you have only yourself to blame.

If you look at game 1, True was floating 6000/2000 at some point which is more than enough for a single roach max. If he held a good "defensive" position on soO's side of the map, he could at least have made the tech without being in any real danger and then looked into applying it if it made sense later on
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
June 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#108
No SKT final plz :/
I love hellbats
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28529 Posts
June 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#109
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 20 2014 10:03 GMT
#110
On June 20 2014 19:02 GreenMash wrote:
No SKT final plz :/

Who knows, maybe it will be a super emotional Boxer vs oov 2.0
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 20 2014 10:03 GMT
#111
On June 20 2014 19:00 Muffloe wrote:
GSL seems to like rock/metal.. although not the very best of it tho ^^


that's EXACTLY what you need for your music though
maru lover forever
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 10:05:13
June 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#112
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !
gotta prep yo
Moderatorlickypiddy
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#113
yeah 11k now vs 18k for maru vs protoss
maru lover forever
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#114
riven is fantastic, tasteless

also who doesn't know what myst is come on
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#115
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#116
On June 20 2014 18:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:54 Lorning wrote:
Seems like it's going to be as one sided as soO's quarterfinal match


soO is insanely good at all things ZvZ. His record is getting pretty ridiculous.


Record: 30 wins - 23 losses (56.60%)

Not that extreme, unless TLPD isn't updated (looks like it is).
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#117
On June 20 2014 19:05 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?


Sleep can only be replaced by passion to a certain degree.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3489 Posts
June 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#118
I d like to see soO win it all, for his 3rd try you know...
Horang2 fan
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#119
On June 20 2014 19:05 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 20 2014 19:02 Penev wrote:
So few viewers. I know a lot of people don't like ZvZ but a semi final GSL with Tastosis? :-S

MLG !

But MLG isn't until tonight?

I mean prepping for it i guess, but yeah it's probably cause of it being zvz D:
Moderatorlickypiddy
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#120
On June 20 2014 19:06 WGT-Baal wrote:
I d like to see soO win it all, for his 3rd try you know...


I'd like that too.. But I have this strong feeling that he will get protossed really hard for some reason. Like 4-1 with standard good protoss pushes.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#90
IntoTheiNu 1507
WardiTV1506
Rex168
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 168
elazer 88
trigger 37
RushiSC 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2207
Jaedong 1792
EffOrt 877
Horang2 859
actioN 576
ggaemo 459
Light 399
Rush 340
firebathero 340
Snow 332
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 256
Hm[arnc] 93
Free 74
sorry 73
Sea.KH 71
Pusan 61
Backho 45
scan(afreeca) 31
JYJ 26
910 26
Terrorterran 20
GoRush 20
zelot 18
Shine 11
Bale 11
Movie 11
SilentControl 9
Rock 4
Dota 2
qojqva3039
Dendi684
Fuzer 148
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m7608
zeus376
kRYSTAL_37
Other Games
gofns11901
tarik_tv10615
B2W.Neo1220
Lowko901
hiko593
crisheroes272
Hui .117
ArmadaUGS82
Mew2King52
SHIN 31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick609
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3435
• TFBlade1015
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
44m
Replay Cast
8h 44m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
18h 44m
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 19h
Maestros of the Game
1d 23h
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.