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absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
June 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#461
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Wherre?

According to TLPD the only 2 Code S opponents he faced in the last 2 months are Innovation and Dear and he lost both games.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
June 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#462
Not again... xD
I hate this damn song xD
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#463
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
June 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#464
More midgame aggression of this sort Maru, entertaining as hell and plays to your strengths.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#465
On June 18 2014 19:33 TheOne26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:29 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:28 TheOne26 wrote:
equal harass opportunities there. 1 protoss unit gets 6 worker kills and gets away. small terran army gets 3 probe kills and dies to 1 spell.

Protoss attacked an undefended location with a flying unit designed to harass.
Terran attacked into a defended location with ground units not designed to harass.

wrong. terran was prepared with 2 turrets and marines. too bad oracles can get free kills anyway because it zips around like lighting. i didn't know that probes + MSC = defended location.


Remember when David Kim thought oracle speed buff would make them more interesting and less of a gimmick. Yeah lol.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
June 18 2014 10:37 GMT
#466
On June 18 2014 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Korean Protoss like who? Hero?


4-0 HerO, 4-0 MC, 1-3 sOs, 2-3 Dear, 2-1 sOs, 1-3 Dear, 2-0 sOs, 3-0 Rain, 3-1 San, 0-1 Dear, 0-1 Rain and 1-0 herO.

That's his record against imo stronger protoss opponents for the last ~year. For sure it's nothing to scoff at, certainly code s level.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 10:38:18
June 18 2014 10:38 GMT
#467
On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.


and people still think taeja is bonwja lol he just keep playing this tournaments with low rank international players.
How may help u?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
June 18 2014 10:38 GMT
#468
On June 18 2014 19:36 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:33 TheOne26 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:29 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:28 TheOne26 wrote:
equal harass opportunities there. 1 protoss unit gets 6 worker kills and gets away. small terran army gets 3 probe kills and dies to 1 spell.

Protoss attacked an undefended location with a flying unit designed to harass.
Terran attacked into a defended location with ground units not designed to harass.

wrong. terran was prepared with 2 turrets and marines. too bad oracles can get free kills anyway because it zips around like lighting. i didn't know that probes + MSC = defended location.


Remember when David Kim thought oracle speed buff would make them more interesting and less of a gimmick. Yeah lol.

Remember when he created a unit that could blind and pull tanks ? Good times.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
June 18 2014 10:39 GMT
#469
On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.


Let's be honest though. As comparatively weaker the competition is, even Maru/TY/Bbyong/Flash would be proud of winning a tournament without dropping a SINGLE map.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
June 18 2014 10:39 GMT
#470
On June 18 2014 19:37 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Korean Protoss like who? Hero?


4-0 HerO, 4-0 MC, 1-3 sOs, 2-3 Dear, 2-1 sOs, 1-3 Dear, 2-0 sOs, 3-0 Rain, 3-1 San, 0-1 Dear, 0-1 Rain and 1-0 herO.

That's his record against imo stronger protoss opponents for the last ~year. For sure it's nothing to scoff at, certainly code s level.


I'm fairly certain most code A dropout level terrans (Flash, Fantasy, Keen, Bbyong, Cure etc) has better vP records than that
maru G5L pls
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#471
On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.

That was what, Blizzcon 2013?

Not just Taeja but all these 'weak' players like Bomber and Jaedong did pretty fucking well vs the best the Kr region had to offer last time round.

Tbh the WCS system this year sucks without the season finals for this reason IMO, plus weighted things way too heavily to foreign events. I mean HerO's been on a monster slump and can conceivably make Blizzcon, something is wrong with that IMO and I use him as an example because I'm a huge fanboy and still think it's BS
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Morphage
Profile Joined September 2011
France492 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#472
On June 18 2014 19:38 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:36 Thrillz wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:33 TheOne26 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:29 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:28 TheOne26 wrote:
equal harass opportunities there. 1 protoss unit gets 6 worker kills and gets away. small terran army gets 3 probe kills and dies to 1 spell.

Protoss attacked an undefended location with a flying unit designed to harass.
Terran attacked into a defended location with ground units not designed to harass.

wrong. terran was prepared with 2 turrets and marines. too bad oracles can get free kills anyway because it zips around like lighting. i didn't know that probes + MSC = defended location.


Remember when David Kim thought oracle speed buff would make them more interesting and less of a gimmick. Yeah lol.

Remember when he created a unit that could blind and pull tanks ? Good times.


And warhounds lol :D
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#473
On June 18 2014 19:38 SC2BF3Love wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.


and people still think taeja is bonwja lol he just keep playing this tournaments with low rank international players.


Well tbh also winning a long term tournament like WCS or GSL is TOTALLY diff from winning a weekend tourney like dh or iem.
In the rear with the gear!
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#474
On June 18 2014 19:39 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:37 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Korean Protoss like who? Hero?


4-0 HerO, 4-0 MC, 1-3 sOs, 2-3 Dear, 2-1 sOs, 1-3 Dear, 2-0 sOs, 3-0 Rain, 3-1 San, 0-1 Dear, 0-1 Rain and 1-0 herO.

That's his record against imo stronger protoss opponents for the last ~year. For sure it's nothing to scoff at, certainly code s level.


I'm fairly certain most code A dropout level terrans (Flash, Fantasy, Keen, Bbyong, Cure etc) has better vP records than that


Prove it?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#475
On June 18 2014 19:39 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:37 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Korean Protoss like who? Hero?


4-0 HerO, 4-0 MC, 1-3 sOs, 2-3 Dear, 2-1 sOs, 1-3 Dear, 2-0 sOs, 3-0 Rain, 3-1 San, 0-1 Dear, 0-1 Rain and 1-0 herO.

That's his record against imo stronger protoss opponents for the last ~year. For sure it's nothing to scoff at, certainly code s level.


I'm fairly certain most code A dropout level terrans (Flash, Fantasy, Keen, Bbyong, Cure etc) has better vP records than that

Then post it instead ?
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#476
On June 18 2014 19:26 jekku wrote:
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On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


This!


Pretty much agreed. However good taeja might be it is better to compare their performances based on the quality of their opponents. Since winning the OSL last year Maru has always made top 8 against guys who no one can deny are THE best. Whosoever's been the best protoss at the time Maru has beaten him or been equal with be it Dear, Zest or maybe now even Classic. That kind of consistency in the GSL is beyond what we have seen from anyone except Soulkey. Would anyone disagree that if Maru went out for each of these fun weekend tourneys he would hands down kick ass just like taeja?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
June 18 2014 10:40 GMT
#477
On June 18 2014 19:39 Crot4le wrote:
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On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.


Let's be honest though. As comparatively weaker the competition is, even Maru/TY/Bbyong/Flash would be proud of winning a tournament without dropping a SINGLE map.


Probably. It's a shame we don't get to see them play in nearly as many tournaments as we do Taeja.
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Zealously
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Last Edited: 2014-06-18 10:42:00
June 18 2014 10:41 GMT
#478
On June 18 2014 19:39 Crot4le wrote:
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On June 18 2014 19:36 Derez wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't beaten a WCS KR protoss this year. He played sOs and Dear and lost both times according to aligulac. Taeja is entirely outside of the 'real' competition and just farms tournaments with poor attendance, 'best of the rest' kind of thing.


Let's be honest though. As comparatively weaker the competition is, even Maru/TY/Bbyong/Flash would be proud of winning a tournament without dropping a SINGLE map.


Of course. No one is debating that Taeja is really good (at least I don't think so), but I too question the validity of calling him the best in the world, period.

That said, this discussion should probably stop now.
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June 18 2014 10:41 GMT
#479
On June 18 2014 19:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On June 18 2014 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:26 DJHelium wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:22 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying that maru is the best terran in the world, but I think Taeja is better. Maybe classic is way better than any of the players taeja has faced...Maru army positioning and decision making seems to be a weakness.

Taeja doesn't play any competition anywhere near what Maru faces.

Taeja is a top level Terran, but he'd get fucking WRECKED if he played in the GSL.

There's a reason he doesn't.

Taeja hasn't won a single season of WCS America. That says all you ever need to know about how good Taeja actually is vs competitive competition.


Taeja was one of the strongest Code S players before WCS system. Very consistent.

I think he would still be a code S regular if he stayed in korea, probably ro8 or better material.


It's easy to look as though you're in top form when you're against inferior opponents.

Taeja hasn't played anything like what Maru faces in KESPA Code S Protoss players.

Taeja isn't up to that level. When it comes down to play at Blizzcon Taeja will prove this. He isn't up to this level, not even close. He wins because he plays in a lot of tournaments, not because those tournaments have competition that are up to his level.


Such a crock of shit, disregarding his dismantling of Korean Protoss players on numerous occasions in the recent past and he looks in close to his best shape ever of late.


Korean Protoss like who? Hero?

He 4-0'd MC at homestory...

He is a korean and a protoss player but he is nowhere near the top.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2014 10:41 GMT
#480
this thread is suddenly so awful, make it stop.
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