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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 19:29:42
June 08 2014 19:29 GMT
#2521
On June 09 2014 04:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
MC doesn't get enough credit for his Macro game, he can macro well(Obviously not the best but still high level macro) he is just better at micro so he puts himself in a situation to use his strengths.

If he was as bad as some people say he is, his cheese wouldn't work and he would have retired long ago and won very little money.

People tuned out after game 3 against MMA in WCS EU finals, he played really well in macro games after that.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 08 2014 19:29 GMT
#2522
On June 09 2014 04:25 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 09:31 The_Templar wrote:
What I really want:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)TaeJa 3-1 (Z)Jaedong
(Z)Scarlett 0-3 (T)MMA
(T)Bomber 2-3 (T)Dayshi
(P)MC 3-1 (T)jjakji

(T)TaeJa 3-1 (T)MMA
(T)Dayshi 0-3 (P)MC

(T)TaeJa 4-2 (P)MC


Except for switching Scarlett and MMA, these predictions are pretty good so far. I'm enjoying myself over here.


Are you disappointed that Scarlett ruined it for you AFTER saying she'd do that.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 08 2014 19:29 GMT
#2523
On June 09 2014 04:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
MC doesn't get enough credit for his Macro game, he can macro well(Obviously not the best but still high level macro) he is just better at micro so he puts himself in a situation to use his strengths.

If he was as bad as some people say he is, his cheese wouldn't work and he would have retired long ago and won very little money.

I generally don't like seeing him win with his cheese mostly because he always beat players I love, but I do think the whole "MC sucks because all in" argument is just utter stupidity.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
June 08 2014 19:29 GMT
#2524
On June 09 2014 04:25 BisuDagger wrote:
My favorite sc2 toss vs a liquid player. This is tough. My heart says MC but my heart says Taeja.

Your heart seems confused
Get off my lawn, young punks
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 08 2014 19:30 GMT
#2525
On June 09 2014 04:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
MC doesn't get enough credit for his Macro game, he can macro well(Obviously not the best but still high level macro) he is just better at micro so he puts himself in a situation to use his strengths.

If he was as bad as some people say he is, his cheese wouldn't work and he would have retired long ago and won very little money.


Its just some weird caricature that has rooted into people's minds and then they are shocked when MC smashes MMA in a macro game.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 08 2014 19:30 GMT
#2526
On June 09 2014 04:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 04:25 The_Templar wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:31 The_Templar wrote:
What I really want:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)TaeJa 3-1 (Z)Jaedong
(Z)Scarlett 0-3 (T)MMA
(T)Bomber 2-3 (T)Dayshi
(P)MC 3-1 (T)jjakji

(T)TaeJa 3-1 (T)MMA
(T)Dayshi 0-3 (P)MC

(T)TaeJa 4-2 (P)MC


Except for switching Scarlett and MMA, these predictions are pretty good so far. I'm enjoying myself over here.


Are you disappointed that Scarlett ruined it for you AFTER saying she'd do that.

A little ¬.¬
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
June 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#2527
On June 09 2014 04:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 04:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
MC doesn't get enough credit for his Macro game, he can macro well(Obviously not the best but still high level macro) he is just better at micro so he puts himself in a situation to use his strengths.

If he was as bad as some people say he is, his cheese wouldn't work and he would have retired long ago and won very little money.


Its just some weird caricature that has rooted into people's minds and then they are shocked when MC smashes MMA in a macro game.


If he would stop winning thousands of dollars by cheesing for entire series at a time, we might lose this idea. However, see previous discussion re: MC loves money.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#2528
Well, that has been quite a busy week : http://aligulac.com/players/267-Dayshi/period/112/
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17742 Posts
June 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#2529
On June 09 2014 04:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
MC doesn't get enough credit for his Macro game, he can macro well(Obviously not the best but still high level macro) he is just better at micro so he puts himself in a situation to use his strengths.

If he was as bad as some people say he is, his cheese wouldn't work and he would have retired long ago and won very little money.

yea, if he couldn't macro then people would just play way more defensively and safe vs him
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
June 08 2014 19:32 GMT
#2530
Most people like MC, if not for his playstyle then they are at least fond of him as a person. It's not bitching about him it's bitching about Protoss, least how I see it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
June 08 2014 19:32 GMT
#2531
any word on the length of the break before finals?
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
June 08 2014 19:32 GMT
#2532
On June 09 2014 04:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Most people like MC, if not for his playstyle then they are at least fond of him as a person. It's not bitching about him it's bitching about Protoss, least how I see it.


If you're not bitching about Protoss, why are you even playing SC2, friend? Gotta keep up with the meta.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#2533
On June 09 2014 04:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Most people like MC, if not for his playstyle then they are at least fond of him as a person. It's not bitching about him it's bitching about Protoss, least how I see it.


if we forgot the fact that he's a huge whiner (that's common to a lot of kr pro anyway :D)
Zest fanboy.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
June 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#2534
On June 09 2014 04:32 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 04:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Most people like MC, if not for his playstyle then they are at least fond of him as a person. It's not bitching about him it's bitching about Protoss, least how I see it.


If you're not bitching about Protoss, why are you even playing SC2, friend? Gotta keep up with the meta.

I don't play SC2, because Protoss lol
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#2535
Ooooh no third place match this time ? D:

Not that I'm a fan of third place matches but I was expecting a nice TvZ between Dayshi and Scarlett.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#2536
On June 09 2014 04:31 Boucot wrote:
Well, that has been quite a busy week : http://aligulac.com/players/267-Dayshi/period/112/


incredible run
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 08 2014 19:34 GMT
#2537
On June 09 2014 04:33 Boucot wrote:
Ooooh no third place match this time ? D:

Not that I'm a fan of third place matches but I was expecting a nice TvZ between Dayshi and Scarlett.


the 4v4 could be entertaining.
Zest fanboy.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
June 08 2014 19:34 GMT
#2538
On June 09 2014 04:33 Boucot wrote:
Ooooh no third place match this time ? D:

Not that I'm a fan of third place matches but I was expecting a nice TvZ between Dayshi and Scarlett.

Get to Twitter folks, perhaps the best foreign exponents of the matchup facing off, would be awesome
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
June 08 2014 19:34 GMT
#2539
On June 09 2014 04:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 04:25 The_Templar wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:31 The_Templar wrote:
What I really want:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)TaeJa 3-1 (Z)Jaedong
(Z)Scarlett 0-3 (T)MMA
(T)Bomber 2-3 (T)Dayshi
(P)MC 3-1 (T)jjakji

(T)TaeJa 3-1 (T)MMA
(T)Dayshi 0-3 (P)MC

(T)TaeJa 4-2 (P)MC


Except for switching Scarlett and MMA, these predictions are pretty good so far. I'm enjoying myself over here.


Are you disappointed that Scarlett ruined it for you AFTER saying she'd do that.



yeah, templar go away.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32751 Posts
June 08 2014 19:34 GMT
#2540
MC's style is all about winning at whatever means necessary and people have to realize these guys are fighting for money not just for fun. MC is comfortable in a long macro game but he does seem to prefer all-ins, timing attacks and two base pressures and his opponents need to make better reads on him.
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