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God damn it Innovation, you could have stopped Life and we would have had an Axiom-Acer finals.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 28 2014 07:04 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:03 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:On April 28 2014 06:44 Bagration wrote:
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That's the thing: As a guy who has attained a level of dominance in SC2 matched only by Mvp and Life, Innovation has very little individual titles to show for it.
A lot of Top 4, Finals but only 1 championship. Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... Really ? Life and Leenock were mostly the ones carrying the entertaining and solid performances paired with cheeky play. Yes sometimes they would fall back to Broodfestors, but it wasn´t the norm. Leenock abused the shit out of it quite often. And they had that cushion for basically garanteed series wins. Yeah life was good enough without it so I consider Life amazing but even he needed it vs. Mvp So did innovation with bio-mine against soulkey. He lost tho ;p (ok ok, that was evil) Biomine actually needed skill
Never saw Hero vs Leenock? Pure skill.
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On April 28 2014 07:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:03 Big J wrote:On April 28 2014 07:02 Yorkie wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Yorkie wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
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Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... The key aspect of Life's play was not Broodlord/infestor, it was early game aggression with beautiful ling micro and strong counterattacks. I'm not saying he never used it, but still. Well, the queen patch did not impact either the infestor nor the Broodlord. The queen patch gave Zergs a much safer early game, which all Zergs arguably benefited from. Some used that to turtle into a hive tech deathball, whereas others used it as a way to augment their early game aggression. Of course he benefited from it. Innovation benefited from the state of hellbats. What is not true is that either of these players were only good because of these things. They were both simply the best players at the time, and they're still both incredible. That I think we can all agree on Soulkey was better. Till he joined SKT. Sellout.
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Hahaha that flying dead zergling
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United States97277 Posts
On April 28 2014 07:05 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:04 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 07:03 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
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Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... Really ? Life and Leenock were mostly the ones carrying the entertaining and solid performances paired with cheeky play. Yes sometimes they would fall back to Broodfestors, but it wasn´t the norm. Leenock abused the shit out of it quite often. And they had that cushion for basically garanteed series wins. Yeah life was good enough without it so I consider Life amazing but even he needed it vs. Mvp So did innovation with bio-mine against soulkey. He lost tho ;p (ok ok, that was evil) Biomine actually needed skill Never saw Hero vs Leenock? Pure skill.
HerO vs Annyeong possibly just as skilled
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On April 28 2014 07:04 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:03 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:On April 28 2014 06:44 Bagration wrote:
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That's the thing: As a guy who has attained a level of dominance in SC2 matched only by Mvp and Life, Innovation has very little individual titles to show for it.
A lot of Top 4, Finals but only 1 championship. Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... Really ? Life and Leenock were mostly the ones carrying the entertaining and solid performances paired with cheeky play. Yes sometimes they would fall back to Broodfestors, but it wasn´t the norm. Leenock abused the shit out of it quite often. And they had that cushion for basically garanteed series wins. Yeah life was good enough without it so I consider Life amazing but even he needed it vs. Mvp So did innovation with bio-mine against soulkey. He lost tho ;p (ok ok, that was evil) Biomine actually needed skill
And still the marine parade was almost impossible to stop at the time for most zergs.
Anyways, it is not like Life had many other options to play with, when Mvp was meching every game.
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Why didn't my post show up? Was I just censored by TL?!
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yawn... time to drop the Bomber mule into the booth
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 28 2014 07:05 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:04 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 07:03 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
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Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... Really ? Life and Leenock were mostly the ones carrying the entertaining and solid performances paired with cheeky play. Yes sometimes they would fall back to Broodfestors, but it wasn´t the norm. Leenock abused the shit out of it quite often. And they had that cushion for basically garanteed series wins. Yeah life was good enough without it so I consider Life amazing but even he needed it vs. Mvp So did innovation with bio-mine against soulkey. He lost tho ;p (ok ok, that was evil) Biomine actually needed skill Never saw Hero vs Leenock? Pure skill.
That game was like the definetion of what was wrong with zerg back then i actually felt bad for DLO
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The power of transfuse
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"Say-s a lot about Life."
"A lot of ray-ly great transfuses."
Is Artosis making some inside joke?
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United States23455 Posts
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Lets all just agree Inno Life and Mvp are insanely sick good players
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On April 28 2014 07:06 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 07:04 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 07:03 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 07:00 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:58 Godwrath wrote:On April 28 2014 06:55 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:54 Swisslink wrote:On April 28 2014 06:50 GumBa wrote:On April 28 2014 06:47 Bagration wrote:On April 28 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
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Innovation's "reign" if we can call it that was about 4 months. Mvp's was somewhere between 2-3 years and Life's was 7 months. Mvp was most dominant in the summer and fall of 2011. While he continued to win because he was Mvp, he never regained that dominant form. And while Life was t really an abuser he did benefit from the state WoL was in. Not to take anything away from him though cause he was sickenigly good. And the way Inno dominated is noteworthy he just curbstomped anyone infront of him in games that were never close Well, I'd say the same goes for MVP/Innovation when they dominated. Innos period was nothing like what WOL was like for zergs.... Really ? Life and Leenock were mostly the ones carrying the entertaining and solid performances paired with cheeky play. Yes sometimes they would fall back to Broodfestors, but it wasn´t the norm. Leenock abused the shit out of it quite often. And they had that cushion for basically garanteed series wins. Yeah life was good enough without it so I consider Life amazing but even he needed it vs. Mvp So did innovation with bio-mine against soulkey. He lost tho ;p (ok ok, that was evil) Biomine actually needed skill And still the marine parade was almost impossible to stop at the time for most zergs. Anyways, it is not like Life had many other options to play with, when Mvp was meching every game.
DRG did win a macro bo3 vs Innovation in the following GSL seemingly effortlessly pre-patch
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every time twitch lags, I remember dotatv
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On April 28 2014 07:07 pigmanbear wrote:
"Say-s a lot about Life."
"A lot of ray-ly great transfuses."
Is Artosis making some inside joke?
i don't get it
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Do these guys even defender's advantage? Surely these guys must have seen Snute's style of play in ZvZ and how effective it is.
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EPT
