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Sunday, Apr 20 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_3 TL Preview & Round 2 FPL Awards: Click here
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) twitch.tv | youtubeCasters: WolfBrendan ValdesmOOnGLaDeTranslator: SojungLIVE from NEXON E-Sports Stadium: 1303-37, Seocho-dong, Seocho-gu, Seoul, Korea+ Show Spoiler +
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Nh3B0hh.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LBr19.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yk7JewH.png) Dark < Merry Go Round > Dream soO < The King Sejong Station > DongRaeGu Classic < Habitation Station > KeeN Rain < Frost > SuperAce:< Outboxer >
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +Poll: Recommend Dark vs Dream?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (4) 67% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Dream? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +Poll: Recommend soO vs DongRaeGu?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs DongRaeGu? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +Poll: Recommend Classic vs KeeN?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (7) 47% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 40% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs KeeN? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +Poll: Recommend Rain vs Super?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (8) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Super? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +Poll: Recommend Ace Match?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/a/a1/LiveReport.png/15px-LiveReport.png) Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match
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Poll: Head?SK Telecom T1 (12) 75% MVP (4) 25% 16 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): SK Telecom T1 (Vote): MVP
Poll: Heart?SK Telecom T1 (11) 55% MVP (9) 45% 20 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): SK Telecom T1 (Vote): MVP
Poll: Most Valuable Player for SKT?soO (9) 60% Rain (2) 13% Other (2) 13% Dark (1) 7% Classic (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Most Valuable Player for SKT? (Vote): Dark (Vote): soO (Vote): Classic (Vote): Rain (Vote): Other
Poll: Most Valuable Player for MVP?DongRaeGu (9) 64% KeeN (3) 21% Dream (1) 7% Super (1) 7% Other (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Most Valuable Player for MVP? (Vote): Dream (Vote): DongRaeGu (Vote): KeeN (Vote): Super (Vote): Other
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If Keen plays well this could be a 3-0 for MVP. Which would be cool. Yeah.
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SKT 3-1 with Keen taking the win would be best for me, but I wouldn't mind SKT 3-0
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Dark > Dream soO < DRG Classic > Keen Rain > Super
Dream and Keen on anti so they have to lose. Has to go to G4 so I can see my homeboy Rain play. Sorry soO, you served me well last season [on my anti-team]!
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On April 20 2014 04:38 GumBa wrote: 3-0 SKT T1 pls Seems like a Dream to me. I'm not Keen about it either.
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Dark < Merry Go Round > Dream soO < The King Sejong Station > DongRaeGu Classic < Habitation Station > KeeN Rain < Frost > Super
Ace: Soulkey< Outboxer > DRG
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I could actually see MVP win this
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On April 20 2014 19:38 Shellshock wrote: back2back 3-0? For SKT
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I can see MVP making it a 3-2
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DRG probably takes a game for MVP. Perhaps Dream or Super too, but unlikely.
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I really really hope that this goes to an Ace Match and Soulkey gets sent out and wins.
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Dream and Keen look like sure loss. Super most likely can't beat Rain. Can't see MVP winning this.
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Am I seeing things, or was Wolf actually using a HAND MIC in that shot?
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Gogo Dark, my FPL captain! Glad he is finally played again.
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On April 20 2014 19:53 Circumstance wrote: Am I seeing things, or was Wolf actually using a HAND MIC in that shot? why wouldn't he use a hand mic? all the casters of pl are using it
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On April 20 2014 19:53 Circumstance wrote: Am I seeing things, or was Wolf actually using a HAND MIC in that shot?
Yeah he is using one, he was talking about it the other day - how its difficult to navigate the observer computer whilst holding it
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Dream's off to a good start
and looks to be doing the Keen/Mvp >_>
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On April 20 2014 19:55 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 19:53 Circumstance wrote: Am I seeing things, or was Wolf actually using a HAND MIC in that shot? why wouldn't he use a hand mic? all the casters of pl are using it
I guess, but since the function of the English casters is different fundamentally, you'd think they could at least invest in a couple headsets.
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On April 20 2014 20:00 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 19:55 Undead1993 wrote:On April 20 2014 19:53 Circumstance wrote: Am I seeing things, or was Wolf actually using a HAND MIC in that shot? why wouldn't he use a hand mic? all the casters of pl are using it I guess, but since the function of the English casters is different fundamentally, you'd think they could at least invest in a couple headsets.
It took 3 rounds to get an observer computer & translator
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Welp, if MVP arent winning this one, they arent winning any...
back to d3 for me!
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I guess you can expect a bad dream when it's dark
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Dark playing well! Taking a map of Inno is no joke
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+3 for zerg and 2-2 not even started for Zerran lol
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dream is getting outplayed so hard ._. can't even drop properly
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Poll: Recommend Dark vs Dream?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (4) 67% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Dream? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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He is the anti SKT zerg. Getting better since joining
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Dark has been really impressive lately
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SKT's just so ridiculously deep
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On April 20 2014 20:05 Undead1993 wrote: dream is getting outplayed so hard ._. can't even drop properly
Im cheering for Dark but can't really call that outplayed when Dark just blindcountered Dreams build completely
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On April 20 2014 20:06 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Dark vs Dream?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (4) 67% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Dream? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans
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Youll never know how scary hydra/roach combination is until you face it lol
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On April 20 2014 20:06 Calthrash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:05 Undead1993 wrote: dream is getting outplayed so hard ._. can't even drop properly Im cheering for Dark but can't really call that outplayed when Dark just blindcountered Dreams build completely  he scanned the roach warren should have started at least a tank immediately but he only started it when the roaches were moving out, i'd call it outplayed
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On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol
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lol the SKT bench doesn't even bother to shake dark's hand
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A summary of that game, through what I yelled at my monitor in the relevant part of the game:
"Raisethedepotraisethedepotraisethedepotraisethedepotraisethedepot HE DIDN'T RAISE THE DEPOT!"
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dark looking strong as usual
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Well played by Dark, everything went fine through the whole game.
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YES! I knew Dark would be an excellent pick for 1 point. Code S player and now even got to play and won his game. GG.
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On April 20 2014 20:07 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:06 Calthrash wrote:On April 20 2014 20:05 Undead1993 wrote: dream is getting outplayed so hard ._. can't even drop properly Im cheering for Dark but can't really call that outplayed when Dark just blindcountered Dreams build completely  he scanned the roach warren should have started at least a tank immediately but he only started it when the roaches were moving out, i'd call it outplayed
Ah, maybe you are right then, didn't notice that. Guess Dream just wanted to go for his planned build anyway and got rekt.
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On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol
Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses.
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On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys...
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On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys...
Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore.
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On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol
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On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. What stats? I think that's a list of players he like...
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On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. all three are still in the top 5 overall maybe that's why he is referring to them
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics
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On April 20 2014 20:16 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. What stats? I think that's a list of players he like... Umm they are actually ln the top 5...
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On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol
Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better.
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On April 20 2014 20:16 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. all three are still in the top 5 overall maybe that's why he is referring to them http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics Thank you! Some people...
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On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell?
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Poll: Recommend soO vs DongRaeGu?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs DongRaeGu? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell?
Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss.
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lol that was easy for soo. wtf mvp
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No highfives for the team?
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On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. I literally dont see the point your trying to make
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Some real lop-sided games today.
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The rise of the SKTZergs! It would have been nice to see Soulkey closing this up :D
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On April 20 2014 20:21 BisuDagger wrote: Yeah soO!!!! GG!!!! Oh you made it :D
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MVP Players. There is this concept called "walling off", in which you place structures in a position to prevent large numbers of units from rushing into your base at once. This concept is particularly important against Zerg, whose inexpensive and fast units can break opponents easily and quickly if they are allowed to enter without contest. Please consider using this "walling off" technique when competing against Zerg players in the future. Thank you.
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On April 20 2014 20:20 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. I literally dont see the point your trying to make
Dude said why still send out terrans, you said 3 terrans are doing well, I said the majority of players doing well are not terran, so statistically you don't send them out, especially if you aren't KT / Jinair and you want to win and don't have Flash / TY / Maru in your lineup.
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On April 20 2014 20:22 Circumstance wrote: MVP Players. There is this concept called "walling off", in which you place structures in a position to prevent large numbers of units from rushing into your base at once. This concept is particularly important against Zerg, whose inexpensive and fast units can break opponents easily and quickly if they are allowed to enter without contest. Please consider using this "walling off" technique when competing against Zerg players in the future. Thank you. I loled. Well played
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On April 20 2014 20:16 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:16 ETisME wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. What stats? I think that's a list of players he like... Umm they are actually ln the top 5... Oh i thought he meant the list of players on your sig lol
Yea I know they are Gosu level good :p
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Classic vs Keen is going to be a roflstomp. Funny cuz if this were a TvT it might actually be an even match.
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On April 20 2014 20:22 GumBa wrote:Oh you made it :D For at least a game . Happy Easter SC2 fans!
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On April 20 2014 20:23 imrusty269 wrote: Classic vs Keen is going to be a roflstomp. Funny cuz if this were a TvT it might actually be an even match.
I dunno, if Keen is doing his signature SWAT Team Ghost antics, he may get a win.
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First MKP, now Keen :/
I wanted some Terran wackiness
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On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss.
Because sending the same race/players all the time makes you really easy to counter, even if they're objectively slightly better. Right now, Terran win-ratio = 57%, Protosss ~ 50% and Zerg 43%. If you take out Maru/TY/Flash/BByong, the four best Terrans, Terran still has a win-ratio over 50%.
Terrans suck at individual leagues at the moment, but Terran is doing just fine in teamleagues for some reason.
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On April 20 2014 20:24 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:22 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:21 BisuDagger wrote: Yeah soO!!!! GG!!!! Oh you made it :D For at least a game  . Happy Easter SC2 fans! Happy easter to you to!
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On April 20 2014 20:26 Neemi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. Because sending the same race/players all the time makes you really easy to counter, even if they're objectively slightly better. Right now, Terran win-ratio = 57%, Protosss ~ 50% and Zerg 43%. If you take out Maru/TY/Flash/BByong, the four best Terrans, Terran still has a win-ratio over 50%. Terrans suck at individual leagues at the moment, but Terran is doing just fine in teamleagues for some reason.
Or you can shuffle zerg / protoss like SKT.
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Keen used to be so good. I love him in wings. But of course an SKT stomp is more preferred.
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On April 20 2014 20:22 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:20 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote: [quote] Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. I literally dont see the point your trying to make Dude said why still send out terrans, you said 3 terrans are doing well, I said the majority of players doing well are not terran, so statistically you don't send them out, especially if you aren't KT / Jinair and you want to win and don't have Flash / TY / Maru in your lineup. Why is this a conversation? Teams send out good player yeah duuh
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DEFINITIVELY NOT GONNA MAKE THAT NEXUS 5 sec later...
-wolf 2014.
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Wolf loves his tempo play
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Clever play from both players. I wonder if Classic should have taken the gold than the natural expansion?
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On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. Not sending any Terrans ever would just be stupid. Yeah maybe there isn't as many Terrans that are doing as well as some Protoss or Zerg players at the moment but if a team decides that they will never send any Terrans anymore, that would make their opponents practise million times easier when they could just ignore all the vT matchups.
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6 workers ahead, 14 supply up. Brendan's telling me he's definitely behind...
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It still amazes me how good Classic ks with toss in comparison with his Terran
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wtf Brandon this guy makes me so mad.... Says "classic is defently behind" when he is 10 supply ahead and Keen has no medivacs.... this guy....
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dropping a 2 base blink protoss, how can that go wrong?
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Classic is so sick good. STX RIP
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On April 20 2014 20:36 GumBa wrote:Classic is so sick good. STX RIP 
To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam.
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On April 20 2014 20:27 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:26 Neemi wrote:On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote: [quote] Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. Because sending the same race/players all the time makes you really easy to counter, even if they're objectively slightly better. Right now, Terran win-ratio = 57%, Protosss ~ 50% and Zerg 43%. If you take out Maru/TY/Flash/BByong, the four best Terrans, Terran still has a win-ratio over 50%. Terrans suck at individual leagues at the moment, but Terran is doing just fine in teamleagues for some reason. Or you can shuffle zerg / protoss like SKT. SKT is SKT. No other team than SKT have that kind of lineup or could do that and still do very well in PL.
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On April 20 2014 20:35 Scarecrow wrote: dropping a 2 base blink protoss, how can that go wrong?
Well he has to do something since he is behind + 2 base protoss > 2 base terran... But yeah, solid protoss shouldn't take any damage from drops on 2 bases
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On April 20 2014 20:37 imrusty269 wrote:To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam. To be fair without Stim Terran wouldnt win. Thats just how the game is.
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On April 20 2014 20:38 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:37 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 20:36 GumBa wrote:Classic is so sick good. STX RIP  To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam. To be fair without Stim Terran wouldnt win. Thats just how the game is.
Those two spells/abilities (whatever you want to call them) are not even comparable.
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Keen should get cloak. it's obvious that Classic has no obs with his army when he keeps walking into widow mines oh good it's on the way
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On April 20 2014 20:33 TR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:17 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:15 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:13 marcesr wrote:On April 20 2014 20:12 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:11 Caihead wrote:On April 20 2014 20:08 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:07 marcesr wrote: I really dont get why teams even still send out Terrans Cause TY Maru and Flash are so bad in pl lol Theres like 5 good terrans and 20+ zergs / protosses. Please dont start this guys... Why do you even reply to me then? BTW your statistics seem to be outdated referring Flash, Maru and TY. Its not season 1 anymore. I answered why teams send out terrans. Cause they are good. And season 1? Wtf are you talking about TY Maru and Flash are in the top 5 of PL right now lol Send out good players, not race related, there's 5-6 terrans doing well in proleague and 20+ zergs / protosses doing similarly well or better. Maybe cause those Zergs and Protosses are good aswell? Why would any team other than KT / Jinair send out terrans when they have better choices in zerg or protoss. Not sending any Terrans ever would just be stupid. Yeah maybe there isn't as many Terrans that are doing as well as some Protoss or Zerg players at the moment but if a team decides that they will never send any Terrans anymore, that would make their opponents practise million times easier when they could just ignore all the vT matchups.
I don't think it is a huge deal except maybe for the Ace match since line ups are announce ahead of time.
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I feel Keen's army is much better
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On April 20 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:38 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:37 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 20:36 GumBa wrote:Classic is so sick good. STX RIP  To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam. To be fair without Stim Terran wouldnt win. Thats just how the game is. Those two spells/abilities (whatever you want to call them) are not even comparable. They are abilities. Thats how the games made you cant say what if that abilitiy isnt in the game. It is. Its a dumn arguement
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What the...?
I thought Keen was about to die :o
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What an engagement from Keen.
Good game so far.
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On April 20 2014 20:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: What the...?
I thought Keen was about to die :o Classic's storms were very lacking.
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Keen really needs to scout the bottom expo, he's in a good spot if he realises it's up too
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storms all used on vikings. didnt kill them fast enough before they killed the colossi. no aoe on the bio
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OMG when was the last time I saw nukes XD
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nukes, baby
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On April 20 2014 20:38 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:37 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 20:36 GumBa wrote:Classic is so sick good. STX RIP  To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam. To be fair without Stim Terran wouldnt win. Thats just how the game is.
Keen made a great tactical desicion to sneak marines pass the contain to kill probes at the natural. Doesn't matter because of a 1-click skill solution, even after a time warp. If you think that is fair in a "strategy" game then good for you.
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On April 20 2014 20:42 opterown wrote: nukes?! Yesssss
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On April 20 2014 20:43 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:38 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:37 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 20:36 GumBa wrote:Classic is so sick good. STX RIP  To be fair if not for the mother ship skill Keen would have had that gam. To be fair without Stim Terran wouldnt win. Thats just how the game is. Keen made a great tactical desicion to sneak marines pass the contain to kill probes at the natural. Doesn't matter because of a 1-click skill solution, even after a time warp. If you think that is fair in a "strategy" game then good for you. Im terran myself I get annoyed by it but I havee leanrt to live with it. Thats how this game is made and thats that
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Sweet play from Keen. Classic too.
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For once, Wolf is right. Keen really has great late game army control. edit: and now he messed up
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Keen getting too fancy with a ghost drop and eats a bunch of storms
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Keen's late game management is incredible.
That last engagement though... awful.
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs KeeN?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (7) 47% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 40% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs KeeN? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Super?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (8) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Super? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Wow really strong play by Keen, he almost had a chance to win.
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On April 20 2014 20:45 Flonomenalz wrote: Keen's late game management is incredible.
That last engagement though... awful.
He had 42 marines aswel, that doesn't help
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"The protoss army does not need to be controlled"
Alright Wolf, stop talking
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Wolf is so fucking biased
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WTF? DIdnt Keen win that engagement????
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Oh look, a protoss winning again
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Uhh Classic, that was close...
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Not like Classic's gold matters that much. His econ is still great with all the expos on the sideline
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keen played that so so well ._.'
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On April 20 2014 20:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wolf is so fucking biased
Isn't he a protoss player?
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I'm so fucking sad for KeeN. Plays like a boss for ten-fifteen minutes. Loses like this....
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Poor Keen, he played so well but it wasn't enough...
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On April 20 2014 20:45 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Classic vs KeeN?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (7) 47% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 40% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs KeeN? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Super?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (8) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Super? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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It's bad enough seeing posts like that on here but Wolf should really know better. This level of toss takes a ton of control
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Tough luck, Keen. That was a solid game.
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that's how it would have gone the first time if Classic had stormed the bio instead of vikings
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On April 20 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: "The protoss army does not need to be controlled"
Alright Wolf, stop talking
preacher spittin truth and it hurts
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Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! Keen, Dream, MKP and Salvation all got crushed O.o
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On April 20 2014 20:46 Qwerty85 wrote:Isn't he a protoss player? He's a hearthstone player who void-ray all-ins when he's bored.
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On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play
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WHERE IS MOOONGLADE god damn it moonglade
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oh look sour tears again.
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On April 20 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: "The protoss army does not need to be controlled"
Alright Wolf, stop talking
Yeah, that was one of the more stupid things I have Wolf say. He talks a lot of shit sometimes.
Anyway, time for bed.
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On April 20 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: "The protoss army does not need to be controlled"
Alright Wolf, stop talking
I'm so mad at the way KeeN lost, but clearly that was some random shit by Wolf....
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On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs KeeN?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (7) 47% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 40% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs KeeN? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Super?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (8) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Super? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Wolf should know better than to say that...
Jeez. Terran definitely micros more, but not to that extent.
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"you need to micro 10 times harder than the protoss player " - Wolf
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On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no?
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Bit of fapping into the mic there...
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On April 20 2014 20:49 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no? that's sarcasm
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On April 20 2014 20:46 Scarecrow wrote: It's bad enough seeing posts like that on here but Wolf should really know better. This level of toss takes a ton of control
Protoss at the level does take a lot of control but the margin of error is still bigger for protoss. Keen dropped a ghost and EMP'ed right in the middle of Classic's army. Didn't matter, Classic just moved forwards anyways. As long as he has 2 HTs with energy, he is fine to engage.
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On April 20 2014 20:49 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no? Turn on the sarcasm detector!
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On April 20 2014 20:49 imrusty269 wrote: "you need to micro 10 times harder than the protoss player " - Wolf That's how it feels as a viewer, but I'm sure Protoss isn't that easy.
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How is it respectful to the families of the victims to not have any interviews? What if they're SKT fans?!? You just ruined their day completely!
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On April 20 2014 20:49 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:49 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no? that's sarcasm  Thank god. Wasnt too sure in this thread
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Gained so much respect for Wolf lol
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However, Wolf probably should not express himself like he did in the end there. Even if it is what he considers to be the truth.
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On April 20 2014 20:49 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:49 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no? Turn on the sarcasm detector! Sry this thread made me jaded
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On April 20 2014 20:51 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:49 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:49 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2014 20:48 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote:On April 20 2014 20:46 Glorfindel! wrote:Not a great day for Terrans in Pro League! had to balance out their GSL Global Championship play Yeah, Maru smashing Action and Impact was a real suprise. Have not got myself togheter yet from the shock of the results Maru was favoured, no? Turn on the sarcasm detector! Sry this thread made me jaded Np mate! ^^
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On April 20 2014 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: 9 page LR is depressing
I woke up when KeeN vs Classic was already at 10 minutes  Not enough time to spam.
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On April 20 2014 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: 9 page LR is depressing Gotta agree on that one However, there was not a lot of fan favourites today and people have holidays, but still :/
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On April 20 2014 20:50 vrok wrote: How is it respectful to the families of the victims to not have any interviews? What if they're SKT fans?!? You just ruined their day completely!
The first rule of e-sports is, you do not talk about e-sports.
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On April 20 2014 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: 9 page LR is depressing I tried :/
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On April 20 2014 20:50 vrok wrote: How is it respectful to the families of the victims to not have any interviews? What if they're SKT fans?!? You just ruined their day completely! It would've been more respectful to not make a boat sinking joke the other day but I guess no interview will have to do.
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On April 20 2014 20:52 Glorfindel! wrote:Gotta agree on that one  However, there was not a lot of fan favourites today and people have holidays, but still :/
And two 3-0's didnt help
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So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english..
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On April 20 2014 20:57 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:52 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 20 2014 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: 9 page LR is depressing Gotta agree on that one  However, there was not a lot of fan favourites today and people have holidays, but still :/ And two 3-0's didnt help Tomorrow will be better
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On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english..
Which caster ranking?
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On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english..
the terran army IS ten times harder to control, this is a fact that only delusional protoss players can't seem to come to terms with
would you rather have a caster that just bullshits his way through matches so people won't have a "bad impression" of the game?
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On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english..
That ranking was a bad joke. And viewers can see for themselves. I showed some of my friends Polt's TvP matches at IEM and they all said protoss looked too strong even though the terran ended up winning. And that Classic recall is a viewership killer right there.
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Austria24417 Posts
On April 20 2014 21:13 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. That ranking was a bad joke. And viewers can see for themselves. I showed some of my friends Polt's TvP matches at IEM and they all said protoss looked too strong even though the terran ended up winning. And that Classic recall is a viewership killer right there.
The big lazer things look too strong, no matter who wins!
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I love reading LRs where random people pull random statistics out of their ass to support their biased view on balance
on topic, looks like SKT is pulling it together,will be more fun to stomp them then
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On April 20 2014 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:13 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. That ranking was a bad joke. And viewers can see for themselves. I showed some of my friends Polt's TvP matches at IEM and they all said protoss looked too strong even though the terran ended up winning. And that Classic recall is a viewership killer right there. The big lazer things look too strong, no matter who wins!
People can always relate to War of the Worlds
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On April 20 2014 20:55 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:50 vrok wrote: How is it respectful to the families of the victims to not have any interviews? What if they're SKT fans?!? You just ruined their day completely! It would've been more respectful to not make a boat sinking joke the other day but I guess no interview will have to do.
Wait what victims of what boat sinking?
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On April 20 2014 21:31 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 20 2014 21:13 imrusty269 wrote:On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. That ranking was a bad joke. And viewers can see for themselves. I showed some of my friends Polt's TvP matches at IEM and they all said protoss looked too strong even though the terran ended up winning. And that Classic recall is a viewership killer right there. The big lazer things look too strong, no matter who wins! People can always relate to War of the Worlds If aliens would attack to earth, I would be on their side.
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On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. he has good game knowledge, he is a good guy but deep inside his heart he is a brovilo, so he needs to root for poor terran and against op toss, that's his only problem. he might solve it with some help by arti, but dan needs to try really really hard to help him.
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On April 20 2014 21:37 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 20:55 Scarecrow wrote:On April 20 2014 20:50 vrok wrote: How is it respectful to the families of the victims to not have any interviews? What if they're SKT fans?!? You just ruined their day completely! It would've been more respectful to not make a boat sinking joke the other day but I guess no interview will have to do. Wait what victims of what boat sinking?
A Korean boat sank recently and about 300 people (mostly school kids) perished.
Vice Principal of the school survived, but later hung himself for the guilt of the students passing
A 22 year old crew member of the ship was reportedly told to leave but she was still trying to rescue more kids, she was later found deceased in the water.
The Captain bailed first and is one of the few survivors (I believe there werent many?) is being dragged over the coals for his cowardice actions.
Pretty horrific & tragic stuff
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On April 20 2014 21:42 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. he has good game knowledge, he is a good guy but deep inside his heart he is a brovilo, so he needs to root for poor terran and against op toss, that's his only problem. he might solve it with some help by arti, but dan needs to try really really hard to help him.
I usually don't pay that much attention to what he is saying but I heard him say that micro requirement for terran is much higher than protoss in the late game, but that the game was always balanced like that and around that.
So he didn't say protoss is OP in the late game, he said their army management in the late game is easier compared to terran.
Should he make statements about balance and which race has it harder? Probably not, but he didn't actually say protoss is OP.
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On April 20 2014 22:03 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:42 Undead1993 wrote:On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. he has good game knowledge, he is a good guy but deep inside his heart he is a brovilo, so he needs to root for poor terran and against op toss, that's his only problem. he might solve it with some help by arti, but dan needs to try really really hard to help him. I usually don't pay that much attention to what he is saying but I heard him say that micro requirement for terran is much higher than protoss in the late game, but that the game was always balanced like that and around that. So he didn't say protoss is OP in the late game, he said their army management in the late game is easier compared to terran. Should he make statements about balance and which race has it harder? Probably not, but he didn't actually say protoss is OP. today he said that protoss doesn't require micro. mb it's unlucky and he didn't mean it that way but still you don't say something like this, i'd be pissed if i was a pro and playing toss
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Ugh I was hoping that MVP could still maintain their momentum after their playoff run :/
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english..
Wolf has incredible game knowledge tho, even if he fails in statements sometimes, it's ok. And Brendan is so fun to watch and listen, they really compliment each other in that case.
And lol. Truth is hard i assume? SPL still hits very nice numbers.
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Why didn't Keen get WM's in the last game? Would have been perfect against Classic's army comp and also would have been really good along the positional play with lots of zoning by Keen
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On April 21 2014 01:05 ACrow wrote:Why didn't Keen get WM's in the last game? Would have been perfect against Classic's army comp and also would have been really good along the positional play with lots of zoning by Keen  Yeah, but players have different styles :|
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On April 20 2014 21:11 Rhaeide wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. Which caster ranking?
There was a ranking made by pros on root-gaming.com and there where some decent pros that made an COMPLETELY serious caster ranking. And who was last? OFC Wolf!
Some other guy above this comment said that deep inside he is a good guy. Can confirm! But he is in the caster business for years and makes mistakes that not even newcomers make. And sadly it becomes funny that he claims wrong stuff as fact in nearly EVERY SINGLE GAME. For me as an expirienced viewer this was fun for some time to laugh over "wrong stuff claimed as fact" shoutouts by him but at that time i thought he says that stuff because he was joking around. Sadly this is not the case....
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Bisutopia19158 Posts
On April 21 2014 02:48 MooLen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 21:11 Rhaeide wrote:On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. Which caster ranking? There was a ranking made by pros on root-gaming.com and there where some decent pros that made an COMPLETELY serious caster ranking. And who was last? OFC Wolf! Some other guy above this comment said that deep inside he is a good guy. Can confirm! But he is in the caster business for years and makes mistakes that not even newcomers make. And sadly it becomes funny that he claims wrong stuff as fact in nearly EVERY SINGLE GAME. For me as an expirienced viewer this was fun for some time to laugh over "wrong stuff claimed as fact" shoutouts by him but at that time i thought he says that stuff because he was joking around. Sadly this is not the case.... Nothing you say is constructive. You can't fire everyone who doesn't meet your criteria perfectly in any profession. You are stuck with wolf for the duration of the season. So instead, why don't you find a solution to your problem. If you know better then him, then actively discuss in the LR points he may have missed in the game. Then when wolf reads the LR later he can really gain something from the posters of TL instead of feeling run over. Think proactive first, being a jerk last. It will get you far in life.
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On April 21 2014 11:03 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 02:48 MooLen wrote:On April 20 2014 21:11 Rhaeide wrote:On April 20 2014 21:00 MooLen wrote: So when do they finaly get some good english casters in proleague? First they started with some unknown guys that had close to 0 game knowledge, now Wolf with his last place on caster ranking. I mean starcraft 2 is still handled as one of the best balanced games we have today and if i would watch proleague as a completly new SC2 player and listening to wolf saying "the terran army is 10x harder to control" it would give me a completely negative impression of the game. PL needs some casters that the people want to listen to so they can have more viewers for their stream...Sorry for awful english.. Which caster ranking? There was a ranking made by pros on root-gaming.com and there where some decent pros that made an COMPLETELY serious caster ranking. And who was last? OFC Wolf! Some other guy above this comment said that deep inside he is a good guy. Can confirm! But he is in the caster business for years and makes mistakes that not even newcomers make. And sadly it becomes funny that he claims wrong stuff as fact in nearly EVERY SINGLE GAME. For me as an expirienced viewer this was fun for some time to laugh over "wrong stuff claimed as fact" shoutouts by him but at that time i thought he says that stuff because he was joking around. Sadly this is not the case.... Nothing you say is constructive. You can't fire everyone who doesn't meet your criteria perfectly in any profession. You are stuck with wolf for the duration of the season. So instead, why don't you find a solution to your problem. If you know better then him, then actively discuss in the LR points he may have missed in the game. Then when wolf reads the LR later he can really gain something from the posters of TL instead of feeling run over. Think proactive first, being a jerk last. It will get you far in life.
You are so cute.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
BisuDagger is definitely not a cutie
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Bisutopia19158 Posts
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