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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:32 GMT
#2141
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.


Actually Three. Xigua beat Hero.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 06 2014 23:33 GMT
#2142
On April 07 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM Premier RO16: Group D

(T)Bomber vs (P)CranK
0-0


Map: Habitation Station


Bomber spawns in the top right
Crank spawns in the top left

2:00
Bomber getting a barracks but no gas
Crank getting two gas after a gateway.

3:00
Cybernetics core for Crank.
Both players expand.
Stalker for Crank.

4:00
Crank researching warp gate.
Bomber getting a bunker in his natural expansion.
Bomber constructing a factory.

5:00
Robotics facility for Crank.
Bomber getting a starport.
Bomber building a widow mine.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
April 06 2014 23:33 GMT
#2143
On April 07 2014 08:29 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:24 pajoondies wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete


I sure hope challenger league audience will be at an all time high next season to support your claim.


Of course it won't. Don't be silly.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2014 23:33 GMT
#2144
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.


Actually Three. Xigua beat Hero.

How does that fit into the Koreans eliminating each other?
kiss kiss fall in love
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:33 GMT
#2145
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.


Actually Three. Xigua beat Hero.


Actually seven. Desrow beat Apoc. Has beat Sage. Sen beat Check. Xigua beat Tassadar
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
April 06 2014 23:34 GMT
#2146
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.


Actually Three. Xigua beat Hero.


Can't tell if you're being stuchiu right now, but I was referring to Nestea vs KingKong being the only match where a korean was eliminated out of the league by another korean.
No will to live, no wish to die
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 06 2014 23:34 GMT
#2147
On April 07 2014 08:28 mikumegurine wrote:
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On April 07 2014 08:27 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:24 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean


I saw that in Clan Wars. It was actually really even.


lol wtf, which clan wars was this, might take a peek...


I thought it was EG vs IM but I see it was TL, so change American for European. Snute/Bunny vs Lucky/Ruin where Ruin had to fight on his own. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SHOUTcraft/Clan_Wars
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 06 2014 23:34 GMT
#2148
Strong chances of colo all-in.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:34 GMT
#2149
If you look at it another way, WCS NA has eliminated 4 more Koreans than WCS EU.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#2150
On April 07 2014 08:26 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
That's all she wrote.

what does that mean I hear that so often, but don't know it

Basically means "it's over."

Thx that's what I thought. I mean the meaning in context is clear to me, but... :
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Originated in WWII where a soldier would get a "letter from home" reading "Dear John,"

(breakup letter) and the rest of the troops would say "what else?" "That's all she wrote."

ah thx for that! Now I know it

ah found an interesting read about it
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/thats-all-she-wrote.html
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#2151
On April 07 2014 08:34 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.


Actually Three. Xigua beat Hero.


Can't tell if you're being stuchiu right now, but I was referring to Nestea vs KingKong being the only match where a korean was eliminated out of the league by another korean.


Oh, I misread that, oops.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
April 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#2152
On April 07 2014 08:29 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.


If anyone wanted pure Koreans in WCS AM then they could just increase GSL size you know?


In a lot of ways, that's exactly what the WCS system has done.

Blizzcon was awesome, the regional and seasonal finals were all great last year.

WCS is formatted so the best players win and the best players are seen the most. It's working. Last year was some of the best Starcraft I've ever watched.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
April 06 2014 23:36 GMT
#2153
On April 07 2014 08:34 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:28 mikumegurine wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:27 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:24 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean


I saw that in Clan Wars. It was actually really even.


lol wtf, which clan wars was this, might take a peek...


I thought it was EG vs IM but I see it was TL, so change American for European. Snute/Bunny vs Lucky/Ruin where Ruin had to fight on his own. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SHOUTcraft/Clan_Wars


thx ill try to find vod after the games
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 06 2014 23:37 GMT
#2154
On April 07 2014 08:33 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM Premier RO16: Group D

(T)Bomber vs (P)CranK
0-0


Map: Habitation Station


Bomber spawns in the top right
Crank spawns in the top left

2:00
Bomber getting a barracks but no gas
Crank getting two gas after a gateway.

3:00
Cybernetics core for Crank.
Both players expand.
Stalker for Crank.

4:00
Crank researching warp gate.
Bomber getting a bunker in his natural expansion.
Bomber constructing a factory.

5:00
Robotics facility for Crank.
Bomber getting a starport.
Bomber building a widow mine.

6:00 (T)Bomber 46 vs (P)CranK 47
Bomber getting an engineering bay and stim.
Crank getting a robotics bay.

7:00 (T)Bomber 54 vs (P)CranK 59
Bomber going for a 2 widow mine drop which is spotted by an observer.
Crank pushes away the drop, which accomplishes nothing.

8:00 (T)Bomber 73 vs (P)CranK 68
Crank sees two more medivacs going across the map.
Drop lands but two colossi defend.

9:00 (T)Bomber 82 vs (P)CranK 80
Vikings for Bomber.
Crank getting a warp prism.

10:00 (T)Bomber 87 vs (P)CranK 86
There is a widow mine in Crank's main base.
Combat shields for Bomber.
Crank going for an attack.
Crank breaks through one of the two bunkers
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:37 GMT
#2155
Crank you almost hit 1k minerals.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
April 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#2156
On April 07 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:29 sharkie wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.


If anyone wanted pure Koreans in WCS AM then they could just increase GSL size you know?


In a lot of ways, that's exactly what the WCS system has done.

Blizzcon was awesome, the regional and seasonal finals were all great last year.

WCS is formatted so the best players win and the best players are seen the most. It's working. Last year was some of the best Starcraft I've ever watched.


But quality of starcraft doesn't get viewers. The event which got the most viewers apart from blizzconn was WCS Europe Season final 1 (Stephano).
Viewers want foreigners, not best quality of sc2
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#2157
rotti keeps wanting to predict that collosus dying but it just keeps surviving
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
April 06 2014 23:39 GMT
#2158
A bit late for tech transition.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 06 2014 23:39 GMT
#2159
Crank is playing pretty well at the moment. Very impressive play thus far.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
April 06 2014 23:40 GMT
#2160
No Concussive Shells.
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