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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
April 06 2014 23:23 GMT
#2121
reminds of of early... Acer vs EG

EG put up 3 foreigners vs Innovation....yea

level of play in NA compared to Innovation and korea? well....
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#2122
On April 07 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
That's all she wrote.

what does that mean I hear that so often, but don't know it

Basically means "it's over."
Originated in WWII where a soldier would get a "letter from home" reading "Dear John,"

(breakup letter) and the rest of the troops would say "what else?" "That's all she wrote."
kiss kiss fall in love
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#2123
On April 07 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
That's all she wrote.

what does that mean I hear that so often, but don't know it

It means "welp, that's it folks"
very illegal and very uncool
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17724 Posts
April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#2124
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#2125
On April 07 2014 08:21 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:20 Rollora wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:36 boxerfred wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:36 ssxsilver wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:33 Squat wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:32 ssxsilver wrote:
On April 07 2014 07:31 bearhug wrote:
LoL. Protoss all in so strong.
That's why Starbow is better.

Starbow is still a thing -.-?

There are tournaments with decent viewership, we have a pretty big Bo7 showmatch on Basetrade coming up. It's not going anywhere, enough people like it. It will never be a massive mainstream thing, but that was never the point.

Oh that's cool. I wasn't trying to sound condescending as I actually like those small communities. Just seemed like it disappeared.


Starbow is that bw elitist thingy, eh?


Not really. Real BW elitists look down upon SC2, Starbow, and League of Legends alike.

you mean the real elitist, that play proleague?

Real elitist only play on Windows 98.

Then I was a real elitist for the bigger part of my life. Win 98 SE is just great
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#2126
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 06 2014 23:25 GMT
#2127
I can't get over how different bomber looks without his glasses.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2014 23:25 GMT
#2128
On April 07 2014 08:24 pajoondies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete

Canadian players are also just not nearly as good (in general).
kiss kiss fall in love
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 06 2014 23:26 GMT
#2129
On April 07 2014 08:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
That's all she wrote.

what does that mean I hear that so often, but don't know it

Basically means "it's over."

Thx that's what I thought. I mean the meaning in context is clear to me, but... :
On April 07 2014 08:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Originated in WWII where a soldier would get a "letter from home" reading "Dear John,"

(breakup letter) and the rest of the troops would say "what else?" "That's all she wrote."

ah thx for that! Now I know it
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 06 2014 23:26 GMT
#2130
Bomber looking more handsome these days.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 23:28:19
April 06 2014 23:26 GMT
#2131
On April 07 2014 08:24 pajoondies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete


The upcoming MLG is American only, Ender's Game Tournament was American only. There are American only (or mostly) online cups all the time being streamed.

There's plenty of opportunity to see Americans compete. Just not at the top level. Why? Because they aren't as good. It's the bitter truth of it.

It boggles my mind. People say they want to watch more Americans play and then when they do every LR thread is filled with complaints at how low the skill level in the game is. No shit!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 06 2014 23:27 GMT
#2132
On April 07 2014 08:24 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean


I saw that in Clan Wars. It was actually really even.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
April 06 2014 23:28 GMT
#2133
On April 07 2014 08:27 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:24 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean


I saw that in Clan Wars. It was actually really even.


lol wtf, which clan wars was this, might take a peek...
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2014 23:28 GMT
#2134
On April 07 2014 08:28 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:27 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:24 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:23 Waise wrote:
i don't see the point of going over and over and over the "too many koreans" thing

unless the tournament is 100% restricted to americans only nothing will ever solve the "problem" of korean dominance, this is something we all should have known for a long time by now. koreans will still just beat the americans whether it's in the ro32 or the ro4 or whatever and people will still complain

there's no magic inbetween way to set up a tournament so lesser players beat better ones

2v1 tournament, 2 americans vs 1 korean


I saw that in Clan Wars. It was actually really even.


lol wtf, which clan wars was this, might take a peek...

Yeah please post the link.
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 06 2014 23:29 GMT
#2135
WCS AM Premier RO16: Group D

(T)Bomber vs (P)CranK
0-0


Map: Habitation Station


Bomber spawns in the top right
Crank spawns in the top left
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 06 2014 23:29 GMT
#2136
On April 07 2014 08:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:24 pajoondies wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete


The upcoming MLG is American only, Ender's Game Tournament was American only. There are American only (or mostly) online cups all the time being streamed.

There's plenty of opportunity to see Americans compete. Just not at the top level. Why? Because they aren't as good. It's the bitter truth of it.

It boggles my mind. People say they want to watch more Americans play and then when they do every LR thread is filled with complaints at how low the skill level in the game is. No shit!


yeah, people want to see Korean skill with American faces. Too bad that just isn't possible right now.

Plus, when there are NA only tournaments, the LR threads are 10 pages long (if they even exist)... People just like to bitch about the lack of foreigners, but when they get the chance to see it, they don't even tune in.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18558 Posts
April 06 2014 23:29 GMT
#2137
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.


If anyone wanted pure Koreans in WCS AM then they could just increase GSL size you know?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
April 06 2014 23:29 GMT
#2138
On April 07 2014 08:24 pajoondies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


The best players are advancing.

What exactly is lame about that? The 8 Koreans that will be moving on are all significantly superior players than the foreign players that aren't.

Can't understand why people are upset about this.

It kinda kills the whole 'foreigner underdogs' storyline.
And eliminates many players that people would root for.


the thing that sucks about it is that the American players aren't as good as Koreans haha and so we don't get to see our countrymen compete


I sure hope challenger league audience will be at an all time high next season to support your claim.
No will to live, no wish to die
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3378 Posts
April 06 2014 23:30 GMT
#2139
I wonder if Crank prepared more PvT strategies than the three before.
Seems he should have with two top terrans in his group.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 06 2014 23:32 GMT
#2140
On April 07 2014 08:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 08:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:11 sharkie wrote:
wtf pure Korean Ro8?

meh.. thats so lame


You went from 33 koreans out of 56 to a max of 19. In one season that's much better than expected.

How many Koreans eliminated each other though.


So I checked that just for information, and the answer was "one". Not sure that was the answer you were looking for.


Two. Top beat Violet, Has beat Jaedong.
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