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MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 04:40:26
March 30 2014 22:10 GMT
#1
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History: On March 8th of 2014, No Dice Gaming put together two large show matches featuring four premier level professional players. The first of which (March 8th)[5] featured Liquid's TaeJa, CM Storm's Revival, Puzzle, and Dragon. This first event casted by BaseTrade, it was a successful event with great players, casting crew and production. TaeJa took the win over revival Revival 3-2 in the first set, and Dragon beat out Puzzle 3-2, resulting in a TvT final. TaeJa displayed his world class Terran vs Terran skills, and took first place convincingly with a 4-0 score. While Puzzle was able to beat Revival 2-1 for a third place finish.
The second (March 29) was able to bring in the likes of Puzzle, Dragon, HyuN and Seed. HyuN and Puzzle were able to open things up strong, HyuN beating out Dragon 2-0 and Puzzle taking out former GSL Champion Seed 2-1. In the losers bracket, Dragon was able to take a out Seed 2-0 in two very close games. In the winner's/championship match, HyuN was able to take yet another commanding victory over Puzzle 2-0. Finally in the 2nd/3rd place match Puzzle was able to defeat Dragon 2-1.
See details on these events Here.

This Time Around:
We will be featuring 16 players, Koreans, Foreigners, and up coming talent. Bringing in a wide variety of players from different areas to play through a GSL format tournament over the course of 3 days.

Players:
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Stay tuned as more players are TBA soon!! Look forward to seeing many top level pros both Foreign and Korean!

Map Pool:
Daedalus Point
Heavy Rain LE
Frost LE
Habitation Station LE
Polar Night LE
Yeonsu LE
Alterzim TE

When It Is?
Day 1: Round of 16, 4 group stages featuring 4 players in each group. Top two in each group advance to the next round.

Group A = Symbol vs Major / Bly vs Qxc
Group B = Indra vs Treme / Akari vs Guitarcheese
Group C = Faust vs Sence / envious vs petraeus
Group D = Yellow vs Maker / Seed vs iaguz

PDT: April 3rd, 06:00 AM
EDT: April 3rd, 09:00 AM
CET: April 3rd, 15:00 PM
KST: April 3rd, 22:00 PM

Day 2: Round of 8, 2 group stages featuring 4 players in each group. Top two in each group advance to the next round.

Group A = Petraeus vs Maker / Symbol vs Guitarcheese
Group B = Seed vs Bly / Treme vs envious

PDT: April 4th, 06:00 AM
EDT: April 4th, 09:00 AM
CET: April 4th, 15:00 PM
KST: April 4th, 22:00 PM

Day 3: Round of 4, 1 group stages featuring 4 players in each group. Top two players of the group then move on to the Finals, which will be presented directly after the Round of 4!

Final 4 Group Stage: Bly vs Symbol / Petraeus vs Seed

PDT: April 5th, 06:00 AM
EDT: April 5th, 09:00 AM
CET: April 5th, 15:00 PM
KST: April 5th, 22:00 PM

Prize Pool:
$3000
1st. $1500
2nd. $1000
3rd. $500

Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/No_Dice_Gaming_Invitational
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv

IN DEPTH DETAILS+ Show Spoiler +
How group stages work:
1st. Player vs Player Bo3
2nd. Player vs Player Bo3
3rd. 1st Winner vs 2nd Winner Bo3 (1st place)
4th. 1st Loser vs 2nd Loser Bo3
5th. 3rd Loser vs 4th Winner Bo3 (winner 2nd place)

Day 1 Ro16: Two of the four group stages should be running at once, one on
stream, one not, when they both finish, then we start the second round of
group stages. Top two from each of the 4 group stages move on to day 2.
Format: Each match is a best of 3.
Maps: Start Frost, then loser picks.

Day 2 Ro8: We run one group stage on stream, directly followed by the other
group stage. top 2 of each group stage move on to day 3.
Format: Each match is a best of 3.
Maps: Start Polar Night, then loser picks

Day 3 Ro4/Finals: We run one group stage with remaining 4 players.
Format: Each match is a best of 5. (Finals exception ~ Best of 7)
Maps: Start Yeonsu, then loser picks.
1st: $1500
2nd: $1000
3rd: $500
kiLen
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland97 Posts
March 30 2014 22:14 GMT
#2
This is going to be awsome! Good job guys! : )
LotV HyPe
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
March 30 2014 22:17 GMT
#3
On March 31 2014 07:14 kiLen wrote:
This is going to be awsome! Good job guys! : )

Thanks kiLen!! It should be a good one!! We think we're prepared properly haha being able to get some experience in #1 and #2 i think helped alot!
WhoIsBlue
Profile Joined January 2014
Canada4 Posts
March 30 2014 22:18 GMT
#4
gogo No Dice Gaming ! Good to see more and more events supporting the scene! :D
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 05:53:04
March 30 2014 23:52 GMT
#5
(Wiki)HyuN, (Wiki)Envious, (Wiki)Qxc, (Wiki)AkaRi are announced the first 4 players of the event!
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
March 31 2014 00:31 GMT
#6
Can i ask, who is Akari? I don't see a liqui or any sort of details about him 0.0
Try hard or don't try at all.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
March 31 2014 00:44 GMT
#7
On March 31 2014 09:31 Poo wrote:
Can i ask, who is Akari? I don't see a liqui or any sort of details about him 0.0


He was linked wrong, my apologies ^^ He is a top 100 KR GM playing for No Dice Gaming and has beaten some strong players in practice and clan wars. He almost qualified for Code A, lost in i think it was semi finals two seasons ago. He is a dedicated worker and upcoming player... Look for him in future
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 07:25:28
March 31 2014 01:22 GMT
#8
(Wiki)Maker and (Wiki)Petraeus second 4 players announced!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 02:41:42
March 31 2014 02:39 GMT
#9
please invite me
also the maker invite is questionable i understand u want some of ur players but hes been inactive a long time etc =D
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
March 31 2014 02:45 GMT
#10
On March 31 2014 11:39 desRow wrote:
please invite me
also the maker invite is questionable i understand u want some of ur players but hes been inactive a long time etc =D

Maker plays for team DuSt. And he is very strong still. I think he can have the chance to show hes still gosu
sWs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States409 Posts
March 31 2014 02:54 GMT
#11
Would be nice to have a qualifier spot or two, regardless props to you guys for supporting the scene.

Good luck to Maker
@swsc2
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 31 2014 04:04 GMT
#12
Nice! Enjoyed the last one. This one looks even cooler!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Maker
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico85 Posts
March 31 2014 05:01 GMT
#13
On March 31 2014 11:39 desRow wrote:
please invite me
also the maker invite is questionable i understand u want some of ur players but hes been inactive a long time etc =D

i came back 1month ago and i alredy hit top3 GM, it was very easy to get back in shape ^^
www.teamtaeja.net
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 07:25:50
March 31 2014 05:54 GMT
#14
(Wiki)Guitarcheese, (Wiki)Seed, (Wiki)Free and (Wiki)AcE have all been added to the invitational! :D
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
March 31 2014 07:39 GMT
#15
(Wiki)Grid has confirmed a player in the invitational! 3 more slots remain TBA!
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
March 31 2014 07:51 GMT
#16
(Wiki)Iaguz has confirmed to play in the (Wiki)No Dice Gaming Invitational.!
elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
March 31 2014 07:58 GMT
#17
Free and sC? didnt both retire?
BlyOnFire
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine74 Posts
March 31 2014 11:17 GMT
#18
Invite ?
Progamer
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
March 31 2014 11:23 GMT
#19
sC retires and un-retires more often than Brett Favre. But he always but on a good show. Alongside Free and Maker, these returns from retirement should have some very good testing grounds in this tournament.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
BlyOnFire
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine74 Posts
March 31 2014 13:07 GMT
#20
would be great if possible msg me in there, thx
Progamer
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 31 2014 13:22 GMT
#21
sC! Woo woo!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
ZenMeng
Profile Joined May 2013
United States31 Posts
March 31 2014 21:48 GMT
#22
Get Kreos on there!
Make expand... Defense it....
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 31 2014 21:52 GMT
#23
HOLY SHIT! free[gm]! sCfOu! ST_AcE!

How did you convince these folks to un-retire? O_O

Also stoked for HyuN, Seed, iaguz and Petraeus! :D
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 01 2014 05:50 GMT
#24
Final wave of players have been announced - Indra (a taiwanese Zerg, competing in many online events), and (Wiki)MajOr! Also, due to a drop out of desRow, Acer's (Wiki)Bly has been asked to take his spot!
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 01 2014 05:51 GMT
#25
On April 01 2014 06:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
HOLY SHIT! free[gm]! sCfOu! ST_AcE!

How did you convince these folks to un-retire? O_O

Also stoked for HyuN, Seed, iaguz and Petraeus! :D


Much help!! Haha and good contacts :D <3 We are all super stoked for the event as well!!
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 02:19:03
April 01 2014 06:15 GMT
#26
Groups for Day 1 have been randomized and announced:
Group A = Symbol vs Major / Bly vs Qxc
Group B = Indra vs Treme/ Akari vs Guitarcheese
Group C = Faust vs Sence / envious vs petraeus
Group D = YellOw vs Maker / Seed vs iaguz
EndOfLineTv
Profile Joined February 2011
United States741 Posts
April 01 2014 06:20 GMT
#27
This is going to be so sick! can't wait
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
April 01 2014 08:00 GMT
#28
Free will crush this tour so hard everyone will join him in retirement
I love hellbats
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 01 2014 08:26 GMT
#29
wow sC and AcE are really big surprises
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Stitch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong134 Posts
April 01 2014 09:24 GMT
#30
Three day tournament with three thousand on the line... sick. The player pool is so diverse and so rare to see. sC and AcE back in action too. Make sure to spread the news!
Head Production Director of NDTV - No Dice Gaming - Twitter: @StitchHK
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
April 01 2014 11:33 GMT
#31
Go Hyun <3
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
April 01 2014 11:42 GMT
#32
Looks great. Tweeted.
ModeratorGodfather
Mizerr
Profile Joined April 2014
United States26 Posts
April 01 2014 14:58 GMT
#33
Looks awesome! sC welcome back, again
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-01 16:52:21
April 01 2014 16:42 GMT
#34
HEY!!! Emergency date change back one day. Event will start on Thursday same time and run through Saturday instead. I am so sorry for the change, but we do not want to compete with ATC on Wednesday. Do to the change, HyuN has dropped and (Wiki)Symbol has entered in his place. Please confirm you got this message!! <3 Sorry for the change!! Still working on improving some things for the future as well haha this is first tournament we've done with more than 4 players and overlooked some scheduling things. Thanks for your understanding.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 01 2014 19:16 GMT
#35
So to clarify: Starting date has been moved to Thursday. Same time, will run through Saturday.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 01 2014 21:31 GMT
#36
Ace still plays? Wanna see how he does for sure.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 01 2014 21:33 GMT
#37
On April 02 2014 06:31 Holytornados wrote:
Ace still plays? Wanna see how he does for sure.


Apparently? Last "pro" game we have of him is vs. RorO in September 2012.

Still, this should be fun! :D
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 01 2014 21:53 GMT
#38
On April 02 2014 06:31 Holytornados wrote:
Ace still plays? Wanna see how he does for sure.


Hes primarily become a coach for StarTale. But is still good player ^^
No Dice Gaming
Profile Joined March 2014
United States3 Posts
April 02 2014 01:49 GMT
#39
Cant wait for this event! And look forward to putting on more events like this in the future!! :3
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
April 02 2014 02:35 GMT
#40
is ace still alive ?
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 02 2014 02:43 GMT
#41
Due to the time change, AcE has dropped out and been replaced by (Wiki)Treme.
KalinovSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
52 Posts
April 02 2014 04:46 GMT
#42
NDG #1 ! very excited
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
April 02 2014 04:54 GMT
#43
these are sooooo cool, keep it up dawgs i'm loving it
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 02 2014 07:03 GMT
#44
On April 02 2014 13:54 pajoondies wrote:
these are sooooo cool, keep it up dawgs i'm loving it


Thanks! Much appreciated! And im sure we will be keeping it up long live SC2!! <3
BlyOnFire
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine74 Posts
April 02 2014 08:45 GMT
#45
why instead of hyun - symbol, and instead of ace threme? why not different D:
Progamer
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
April 02 2014 10:05 GMT
#46
wow sC and especially free are very cool invites. i will definitely watch their games.
coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
April 02 2014 10:14 GMT
#47
amazing tournament, good to see all these old names again
\BibleThump/
Golden
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 10:34:40
April 02 2014 10:33 GMT
#48
I just confirmed AcE and sC isn't participate this tournament. and you guys saying AcE has dropped due to time change? and i really wonder why Grid(Ghost) impersonation Puzzle in tournament even NDG's showmatch [image loading]
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
April 02 2014 18:05 GMT
#49
damn...
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Golden
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)42 Posts
April 02 2014 18:56 GMT
#50
and, even Grid's picutre isn't he. you guys can find easily Korean model "MyeongJae Kim" http://almazou.beon.ru/tag/Kim Myoung Jae/
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 02 2014 18:58 GMT
#51
In addition to Golden's post you also invited Noblesse and then said he couldn't play...

Seems like very horrendous organization for a $3000 tournament...
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
TL+ Member
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
April 02 2014 19:14 GMT
#52
Disappointing. I was hoping for the return of free
I love hellbats
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
April 02 2014 19:21 GMT
#53
So sC and free aren't playing, and Noblesse was invited too but isn't playing either... Damn these are all players that I would love to watch again. T_T
NeXaSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
44 Posts
April 02 2014 19:23 GMT
#54
What i can understand from NDG is that they are bullshit?
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
April 02 2014 19:30 GMT
#55
On April 03 2014 04:23 NeXaSC2 wrote:
What i can understand from NDG is that they are bullshit?

That's the feeling I get, yes.
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
April 02 2014 19:32 GMT
#56
Tip for next time! : You dont need to invite inactive/retired players to get people interested in your tournament. There is probably plenty of pro's who would want to play in a 3k tournament!
I love hellbats
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:03:34
April 02 2014 19:53 GMT
#57
EDIT
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
April 02 2014 20:06 GMT
#58
I don't understand what's the point of having someone faking as Puzzle
It's not like Puzzle is a superstar or anything
...
NeXaSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
44 Posts
April 02 2014 20:14 GMT
#59
On April 03 2014 05:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I don't understand what's the point of having someone faking as Puzzle
It's not like Puzzle is a superstar or anything


They just want attention and fame, obv not the right way to get fame after getting busted
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 02 2014 20:20 GMT
#60
On April 03 2014 05:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I don't understand what's the point of having someone faking as Puzzle
It's not like Puzzle is a superstar or anything


For the record, they have stated that it's not the actual Puzzle in the previous showmatches, just some random top 50 GM with the same name. Everything else is really weird, but they never tried to impersonate the ex-Slayers Puzzle.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Nitto432
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2 Posts
April 02 2014 20:42 GMT
#61
Hello, I'm a PR representative from ND Gaming. We're aware of the issues that have been brought up in this post and are working to investigate and bring about speedy solutions to the problem.

Just to clarify, as mentioned in the past two tournament posts, the player Puzzle is not the Puzzle from Slayers and is just a former top 50 Korean GM. He has multiple alternate accounts that he uses and we apologize for not having the tournament admin in the 2nd invitational enforce the sole account rule.

As far as the participation of the former Korean players (Ace, SC, and Free), we were assured by our contact in Korea that they would join the tournament. However, since Golden has brought up a discrepancy, we have sent them a message and are checking to re-confirm their participation.

Finally, to answer Desrow and several other progamers in this post, we originally came up with a list of progamers that we would have liked in the tournament. However, since it is an invitational, it is up to the organization to ultimately decide who gets in or not. If the mentioned retired Korean progamers are indeed unavailable then we will probably replace them with both up & coming and established progamers from the NA scene.

Before criticizing the organization further, we assure you that we will try to provide you with the fastest responses before the tournament starts tomorrow morning. If you have any other questions feel free to PM to this account or reply in this thread.

Thank you
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 03 2014 02:34 GMT
#62
Update on the event, 1 problem at a time...
Q. Why was Puzzle on Ghost's account at one time?
A. Puzzle and Ghost/Grid are best friends in real life, and sometimes share accounts. Puzzle showed up late to this event and had last logged in as Grid. I told him not to worry about it we had to start. In between matches, he switched back to Puzzle to make things clear. They are not however, the same person.

Q. Why did Grid use a fake person's picture?
A. As No Dice Gaming, we were unaware of this fact and did not know anything about it until brought up by Golden. After talking to Ghost on the subject, he said he was pressured into a picture fast but did not want to give his real picture because he wants to be anonymous, as he as a player doesn't care for prize money or going pro, he just enjoys the game. He apologizes for this and feeling bad and embarrassed has dropped out of the tournament and is considering a possible full retirement.

Q. Have the previous players in the invitationals been paid?
A. Yes they have all been payed the proper amounts. As will the players in this event. We are currently working on contacting the players who have won money in the past in our invitationals to Tweet this fact, and i will update their posts here as they do so. HyuN, Puzzle and Dragon etc have all been paid in full for their successes. If NDG were to fake money, i dont think it'd be very possible for us to continue hosting these events which is our plan, and has been our plan.
https://twitter.com/SC2Dragon1
Jeon YongSoo ‏@SC2Dragon1 51m
@NODICEGAMING i got it 2th prize
The other players we are still trying to gain contact of and will link when we have reached and gotten further confirms.

Q. Why are all of these Korean's being added and then dropping?
A. Our Korean contacts were in charge of organizing the Korean players for participating in the event. The original list NDGame got of players we thought were all confirmed players, but it was a mis-translation. The players they had listed were players they were going to attempt to get, not players who have confirmed. I being the fool, had misunderstood their message and posted them as participating players.

The final player list is updated now and the event should be going on at the appropriate time and day. Any further questions on the matter, feel free to PM me. I understand all the confusion and what not about NDGame and this event right now, and im sincerely sorry. We tried organizing a large scale event in too little time. We plan on continuing these events and we plan on working on them to continue to improve our production and organization. This paints an improper picture of NDG, and we seek to make that up over the course of the event by putting on an amazing show and being able to run the future events better and a lot smoother than this was. Thanks everyone for your understanding <3 Much appreciated. Please PM with further questions and I will get back to you ASAP!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
April 03 2014 04:07 GMT
#63
Good on you guys for being so clear with your methods and directly addressing people's concerns.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
EndOfLineTv
Profile Joined February 2011
United States741 Posts
April 03 2014 05:41 GMT
#64
OK, Thank you for the update
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 03 2014 05:42 GMT
#65
Can anyone, affiliated with NDG or not, confirm whether or not this fake Puzzle (Grid) ever participated in any tournaments under the ID "Gun" or "kok7171"?
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Golden
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 08:06:01
April 03 2014 08:05 GMT
#66
On April 03 2014 11:34 MediKing wrote:
Update on the event, 1 problem at a time...
Q. Why was Puzzle on Ghost's account at one time?
A. Puzzle and Ghost/Grid are best friends in real life, and sometimes share accounts. Puzzle showed up late to this event and had last logged in as Grid. I told him not to worry about it we had to start. In between matches, he switched back to Puzzle to make things clear. They are not however, the same person.


If puzzle and Ghost/Grid isn't same person, why Ghost played tournament on puzzle's account? that was same hotkey, (don't say they using same hotkey by friendship...) and i researched Ghost breaks game due to military 2012 jan to 2013 august. but why puzzle isn't play tournaments around this time? and Ghost's "last" match in tournament is Mar 03 2014 in SYF Gaming Pathfinder Team League and puzzle's "first" participation tournament is Mar 06 2014 in go4sc2 Cup Europe #350. (searched by aligulac). why they aren't play tournament at same time even they are best friends? and why puzzle play tournament suddenly after Ghost gone? you guys should be say truly. or you Ghost still lying to you guys.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 03 2014 08:51 GMT
#67
On April 03 2014 11:34 MediKing wrote:
Q. Why are all of these Korean's being added and then dropping?
A. Our Korean contacts were in charge of organizing the Korean players for participating in the event. The original list NDGame got of players we thought were all confirmed players, but it was a mis-translation. The players they had listed were players they were going to attempt to get, not players who have confirmed. I being the fool, had misunderstood their message and posted them as participating players.


I wasn't going to follow up post but since Golden did I will as well.

This one doesn't make any sense. As Golden said, you just need to be honest here. You invited a bunch of players, and if the above was true, then you'd already have known you'd hit your player cap. The fact was, you continued invited players even after getting at the "cap" for the tournament. You gave players a set time limit to respond so they'd get a spot, but even then the tournament was never really "full". If I had to guess, you just contacted a bunch of people and told them they could play. But upon getting in contact with so many people you just decided to pick and choose players even after invites had been extended. I may be wrong here, but the above quote definitely does not seem accurate in the case we experienced.

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The only reason I actually followed up was just to speak on behalf of our Korean players. It's really kind of "meh" for them when they get an invite to a tournament with such a big prize pool and then we have to explain to them that they're not playing anymore for no apparent reason. >.>...
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 10:40:02
April 03 2014 10:38 GMT
#68
On April 03 2014 04:14 GreenMash wrote:
Disappointing. I was hoping for the return of free

On April 03 2014 04:21 SilentSC2 wrote:
So sC and free aren't playing

Source ?

EDIT : ok I guess that's
However, since Golden has brought up a discrepancy, we have sent them a message and are checking to re-confirm their participation.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 11:54:36
April 03 2014 11:33 GMT
#69
To organizers:

No bracket and results section ?

Liquipedia shows old results only. Nothing from April 2014 ..
*burp*
NoDiceTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
April 03 2014 12:18 GMT
#70
@Parcelleus The first games will start in about an hour. The tournament has not started yet, therefore there are no results up on Liquipedia.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
April 03 2014 12:19 GMT
#71
On April 03 2014 21:18 NoDiceTV wrote:
@Parcelleus The first games will start in about an hour. The tournament has not started yet, therefore there are no results up on Liquipedia.

No brackets though.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2014 12:41 GMT
#72
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Jeka
Profile Joined May 2010
United States61 Posts
April 03 2014 13:09 GMT
#73
STREAM UP BRINgON SYMBOL!!
"The God of War hates those who hesitate."
Jeka
Profile Joined May 2010
United States61 Posts
April 03 2014 13:28 GMT
#74
Stream is playing bly and qxc match
"The God of War hates those who hesitate."
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 03 2014 13:29 GMT
#75
On April 03 2014 21:41 opterown wrote:
https://twitter.com/SeedSC2/status/451700305378299905

[image loading]
So i had no clue about this and did a little investigating, we apologize and will fix the past tournament as it was a fake Seed apparently. I am sorry about this.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14459 Posts
April 03 2014 13:45 GMT
#76
On April 03 2014 22:29 MediKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 21:41 opterown wrote:
https://twitter.com/SeedSC2/status/451700305378299905

[image loading]
So i had no clue about this and did a little investigating, we apologize and will fix the past tournament as it was a fake Seed apparently. I am sorry about this.

Last time just contact Promise.
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MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 03 2014 14:39 GMT
#77
안상원 @SeedSC2
I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv
7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014
https://twitter.com/seedsc2
I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 03 2014 14:53 GMT
#78
On April 03 2014 23:39 MediKing wrote:
안상원 @SeedSC2
I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv
7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014
https://twitter.com/seedsc2
I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.


You click on the time that says when it was tweeted, like 20 min for example, then the tweet opens in an extra url and you just copy post that.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 03 2014 14:54 GMT
#79
On April 03 2014 23:39 MediKing wrote:
안상원 @SeedSC2
I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv
7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014
https://twitter.com/seedsc2
I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.


How did you accidently get a fake seed last week but the real one this week without realizing they weren't the same? :S
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 03 2014 15:38 GMT
#80
Btw, how exactly does the seeding work? I have the feeling that every player in group A is better than every player in group B (and C except Petraeus). I know, this can result from people droping out and getting replaced, but it seems a bit weird to me.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
April 03 2014 15:44 GMT
#81
I don't have time to watch it but looking at all these dramas, I think you guys are dealing with everything really well.

Hope the event goes well and next time it will run smoothly
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
EndOfLineTv
Profile Joined February 2011
United States741 Posts
April 03 2014 16:01 GMT
#82
Bly vs Major game 1 was super sick! Burrow infestors and banelings are sick
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 03 2014 16:26 GMT
#83
Bly is just too handsome for Major, 2-0
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
April 03 2014 18:03 GMT
#84
Mic clipping kind of sucks. Feel like it's something that should've been tested out beforehand, because it honestly makes it impossible to listen to the cast.

All these organizational issues are killer, too. Iaguz seems to have dropped out because you guys delayed his match and he couldn't stay up any longer? All the replaced players and such; I don't even know who's supposed to be playing in this tournament anymore.
Corolla99
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
April 03 2014 18:43 GMT
#85
Woo! more awesome events for starcraft 2, thanks NDG!
ElFiLaiNEN
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 18:51:36
April 03 2014 18:51 GMT
#86
On April 04 2014 03:03 Rehio wrote:
Iaguz seems to have dropped out because you guys delayed his match and he couldn't stay up any longer? .


Pretty sure this is because he didn't go to bed the night before. When he left it was like 11 AM in the ROOT house.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 03 2014 18:56 GMT
#87
On April 04 2014 03:51 ElFiLaiNEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:03 Rehio wrote:
Iaguz seems to have dropped out because you guys delayed his match and he couldn't stay up any longer? .


Pretty sure this is because he didn't go to bed the night before. When he left it was like 11 AM in the ROOT house.

Yeah, people in the Root house having scheduling issues because of sleep has already happened before, that is not neccessarily the organizers fault. It is an unfortunate situation for both parties, but delays in esports events are nothing new, so they could have been forseeable. Stuff like that happens, I wouldn't blame anyone for this.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:49:48
April 03 2014 21:49 GMT
#88
Ya iaguz dropping was too bad. And unfortunate. But we move on. And I agree group A was pretty stacked. We originally decided the groups by a random drawing. And group A was pretty stacked, then players dropping and adding sort of just added to it. Haha, but like we said before; in the future we are planning to give a longer notice and make sure players are confirmed. We had some mis translates and understandings this time around along with a short time period that made it kind of rough. But we are moving onto day 2 and things should hopefully run a bit better and smoother and provide some great games! thank you everyone for your endured support and understanding. It means alot.
linkhimura
Profile Joined March 2014
Argentina231 Posts
April 03 2014 21:59 GMT
#89
Symbol, Bly, and Seed?

The other players will have a hard time going against them. I find it a little weird why they do a tournament with pretty good players, and fill with low tiers.

I mean, they should do these tournaments for all "rising stars" or upcoming talents, that would give the tournament more variety.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 22:29:10
April 03 2014 22:22 GMT
#90
On April 04 2014 06:49 MediKing wrote:
Ya iaguz dropping was too bad. And unfortunate. But we move on. And I agree group A was pretty stacked. We originally decided the groups by a random drawing. And group A was pretty stacked, then players dropping and adding sort of just added to it. Haha, but like we said before; in the future we are planning to give a longer notice and make sure players are confirmed. We had some mis translates and understandings this time around along with a short time period that made it kind of rough. But we are moving onto day 2 and things should hopefully run a bit better and smoother and provide some great games! thank you everyone for your endured support and understanding. It means alot.

Random drawing is a way to do it. Not neccessarily the most usual but still a valid one. Just bad luck then, for QXC and Symbol/MajOr (Wasn't able to watch final match)

On April 04 2014 06:59 linkhimura wrote:
Symbol, Bly, and Seed?

The other players will have a hard time going against them. I find it a little weird why they do a tournament with pretty good players, and fill with low tiers.

I mean, they should do these tournaments for all "rising stars" or upcoming talents, that would give the tournament more variety.

That would also reduce the relevancy of winning it. If you just run a tournament with rising stars, their rise will not be supported in any way, since there is noone to raise above. You need a few veterans to measure the "risings stars" progress, otherwise there is no new information about their skill level. If new players can beat Bly, Symbol, Seed and MajOr, that shows their skill level and the progress they made and is an actual achievment, that further improves their status and gains actual momentum. If you only put "rising stars" against other "rising stars" all time, they will remain "rising stars" for ever and not actually become real ones.

TL;DR: "To be the man, you've got to beat the man", so I think, the way NDG is currently doing it is fine.

EDIT: You might want to post the results in this thread, since not every game was streamed and LP is still behind by quite a bit.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 03 2014 22:46 GMT
#91
Major beat Symbol and Bly qxc. Then Major got taken down by Bly in the winners and decided to leave. Don't know how that will be solved. Casters did not know what happened with the last match in group C and I have no idea about D except for iaguz going to sleep.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 00:27:32
April 03 2014 22:57 GMT
#92
On April 04 2014 07:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Major beat Symbol and Bly qxc. Then Major got taken down by Bly in the winners and decided to leave. Don't know how that will be solved. Casters did not know what happened with the last match in group C and I have no idea about D except for iaguz going to sleep.

Yes, that was my stand of information as well (except MajOr leaving, didn't know about that before. Just walkover I assume), I was mostly talking to the admins, since he knows everything.

Edit: And now someone edited LP wrongly, Bly won the group, not Symbol.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 02:46:26
April 04 2014 02:28 GMT
#93
Groups have been made for Day 2:
Group A = Petraeus vs Maker / Symbol vs Guitarcheese
Group B = Seed vs Bly / Treme vs envious

Group B will proceed directly after Group A finishes. Top two places of each group then advance to Final 4
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 06:04:19
April 04 2014 05:17 GMT
#94
Wait, YELLOW?

This can't be the BW yellow, so who is this player?

Looks like a good event regardless, will be tuning in!

EDIT: Just watched some of the day 1 twitch vod stream, and the audio is really bad. Casters need better mics (my headset doesn't cause mic buzz like there's seems to).

Not my favorite casters in general but it would be tolerable if they had decent sound quality.

The games seem great, I always like watching Qxc, but you need to replace Aldaris.
BlyOnFire
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine74 Posts
April 04 2014 12:40 GMT
#95
kind of weird, isnt it? im top1 my group and i play vs seed who is top1 of hes group D:
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 04 2014 14:02 GMT
#96
On April 04 2014 21:40 AcerBly wrote:
kind of weird, isnt it? im top1 my group and i play vs seed who is top1 of hes group D:

Are you playing at the same time as the other group, or is there still time to fix this? I mean, it will not change the schedule to fix this issue, since every player is probably planning to the final match, so I hope they still do something about that.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 04 2014 14:32 GMT
#97
Day 2 is live! http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 04 2014 14:33 GMT
#98
On April 04 2014 23:02 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:40 AcerBly wrote:
kind of weird, isnt it? im top1 my group and i play vs seed who is top1 of hes group D:

Are you playing at the same time as the other group, or is there still time to fix this? I mean, it will not change the schedule to fix this issue, since every player is probably planning to the final match, so I hope they still do something about that.


Also, regarding this, both Maker and Symbol tied by default, so we had no definitive winner, and was randomized which played who, just separated. Both Seed and Bly still have chance to advance, as one can lose then win their next two matches.
GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
April 04 2014 14:47 GMT
#99
Rough tournament so far, No Dice, but you learn best through experience! Utilize your dedication to make sure these issues don't happen next time, and maybe try to focus less on the Koreans. Good job handling everything so far. Keep it up
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 04 2014 14:54 GMT
#100
I like to call Petraeus an Aussie just to be cheeky but Tempo was serious about it. Australia and New Zeeland is not the same thing, Tempo
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Temp0
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 01:44:48
April 04 2014 20:40 GMT
#101
Yeeeeah I apologized on stream . I cast him in the DETL quite a bit, so it's something I know in my head too, but I am human and did make the mistake. Today was pretty smooth aside from a few things, but was happy the audio/video quality was fine(I hope). Hope I cated ok lol, been on like 6 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours! Also, I can't tell if you're being cheeky saying that it's New Zeeland either :p.
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MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
April 05 2014 04:43 GMT
#102
Bly vs Symbol / Petraeus vs Seed will play in our Final 4 group!!
Match 1. Bly vs Symbol Best of 5
Match 2. Petraeus vs Seed Best of 5
Match 3. Winner Match (Winner gets 1st!) Best of 7
Match 4. Loser Match Best of 5
Match 5. Loser Match 3 vs Winner Match 4 (Winner gets 2nd! Loser gets 3rd!) Best of 5
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 15:24:48
April 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#103
Good pvz right now Seed vs Symbol

edit - winners match bo5 or bo7? might want to fix that...
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 22:04:03
April 05 2014 19:28 GMT
#104
Congratulations to Symbol. Didn't think that he would be so strong in the playoffs after finishing second in both his groups. How did the loser and decider matches go? LP is stuck on Bly 1-0 in the former.

Edit: nvm I saw the bracket has been updated now
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