• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:56
CEST 08:56
KST 15:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 5/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
U4GM Guide: Beat Otto in Mistfall Hunter Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
u4gm Diablo 4: QoL Secrets for Faster Gameplay u4gm POE2 Frostbolt Build: A Powerful Boss Killer U4GM CFB 27 Guide: Why UTSA’s Offense Is So Danger Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread U4GM Tips for Pokemon TCG Pocket Zapdos ex European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2755 users

[WCS EU] Ro16 Group B Premier Season 1 2014 - Page 58

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 70 Next
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
March 26 2014 21:13 GMT
#1141
I want too see an scv pull !!!!
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:16:14
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1142
On March 27 2014 06:07 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:01 pmp10 wrote:
On March 27 2014 05:59 Zprit wrote:
Why build the unit that is the reason for mech not working in TvP since it hard counters the mech army when you could run around like a headless chicken...

Immortals wouldn't help him there.
First there were too many hellions and then the tank count was too large.

Did you see that single immortal which poked forward? And how much damage it absorbed?

Immortals are extremely good, so are archons. Zealots reasonable, not great in first wave, but you need something with your minerals, and new warpins are extremely strong since by then the hellbats should be gone.

I mech every TvP, and sorry but to me it seemed Grubby was running around without a clue what to do. He made all the wrong units, only with mass sentry his composition would have been worse.

Air can counter this, but then the correct air (so no voids, but tempests). However you need a whole bunch before that works, and lets face it, Grubby wasn't in a position to hide any air, he needed everything to defend.

Ground wise, mass immortal, sentry, archon. Now from a Grubby I expect more, but for a regular player, just split them up into two groups. That is the only important thing to remember: Split them in two groups, a-move from different direction, gg. For a Grubby the same but with a better concave. Both archons, immortals and zealots rip through tanks, you only need one hole in the defense and the tanks all die. And no matter how fun this was to watch, Daisy showed plenty of holes in the defense.

That this worked without either ravens or ghosts shows for me that Grubby just had no clue on where to start with countering it. Also with the extra stalkers/colossi added, that is just plain bad.

And if it was a regular macro game all of that would have mattered.
As it was Grubby donated an army and that allowed hellion/tank numbers to grow out of control.
I agree he mismanaged engagements and build a poor composition but immortals were not the answer.
It was way too late for that.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1143
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:15:14
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1144
lol lag problems
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1145
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.


I rate Dayshi's TvZ quite highly

But jjakji would be favored by quite a bit then.

Thanks for reply!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:15:37
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1146
In doubt, blame Emil

jk, Emil is cool !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1147
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.

And going 3CC against a one base all in is not a good idea.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1148
If Dayshi plays this well he wins ez. No storm on the way and not that much ground.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1149
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1150
I'm sad they didn't change Alterzim too but 4 new maps is pretty good.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1151
Why is grubby cryng?? He is dead and the game maybe will be restarded before that
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1152
2014 and still no LAN. go grubby!
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1153
On March 27 2014 06:13 NovaMB wrote:
My cat is blocking my chair T_T


Your cat clearly plays toss
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:17:27
March 26 2014 21:17 GMT
#1154
On March 27 2014 06:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.


I rate Dayshi's TvZ quite highly

But jjakji would be favored by quite a bit then.

Thanks for reply!


Yeah I agree with both of those statements, I think the first match of tonight was Snute shining far more than it was Dayshi being weak in TvZ.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 26 2014 21:17 GMT
#1155
what is grubby doing with his hands
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 26 2014 21:18 GMT
#1156
On March 27 2014 06:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.


SWAGHO IS A GOD, it aint his fault Hero couldnt be stuffed to look at the map.
Moderator
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1157
On March 27 2014 06:18 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.


SWAGHO IS A GOD, it aint his fault Hero couldnt be stuffed to look at the map.


I agree with that even more than I normally would, given how HerO acted after losing.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1158
How can you not know Croque Monsieur, Apollo? =.=
Community News
TL+ Member
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1159
Croque monsieur is awesome !
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Arthayze
Profile Joined January 2014
France108 Posts
March 26 2014 21:20 GMT
#1160
I ate Croque Monsieur tonight, I'm ready to be fully part of the e-Sports scene now.
Lifuuuuu
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 70 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
FoxeR 45
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1628
Nal_rA 27
yabsab 27
Shine 20
Dota 2
The International44010
Gorgc10755
Fuzer 212
NeuroSwarm188
League of Legends
JimRising 530
Other Games
m0e_tv360
ceh9236
Happy212
Hui .146
amsayoshi47
RuFF_SC235
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick839
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
lovetv 13
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH327
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1263
• Stunt511
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
3h 4m
KCM Race Survival
3h 4m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 4m
Serral vs Lambo
SHIN vs Rogue
OSC
6h 4m
Replay Cast
17h 4m
Escore
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
OSC
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The Patches Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-11
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.