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[WCS EU] Ro16 Group B Premier Season 1 2014 - Page 58

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TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
March 26 2014 21:13 GMT
#1141
I want too see an scv pull !!!!
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:16:14
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1142
On March 27 2014 06:07 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:01 pmp10 wrote:
On March 27 2014 05:59 Zprit wrote:
Why build the unit that is the reason for mech not working in TvP since it hard counters the mech army when you could run around like a headless chicken...

Immortals wouldn't help him there.
First there were too many hellions and then the tank count was too large.

Did you see that single immortal which poked forward? And how much damage it absorbed?

Immortals are extremely good, so are archons. Zealots reasonable, not great in first wave, but you need something with your minerals, and new warpins are extremely strong since by then the hellbats should be gone.

I mech every TvP, and sorry but to me it seemed Grubby was running around without a clue what to do. He made all the wrong units, only with mass sentry his composition would have been worse.

Air can counter this, but then the correct air (so no voids, but tempests). However you need a whole bunch before that works, and lets face it, Grubby wasn't in a position to hide any air, he needed everything to defend.

Ground wise, mass immortal, sentry, archon. Now from a Grubby I expect more, but for a regular player, just split them up into two groups. That is the only important thing to remember: Split them in two groups, a-move from different direction, gg. For a Grubby the same but with a better concave. Both archons, immortals and zealots rip through tanks, you only need one hole in the defense and the tanks all die. And no matter how fun this was to watch, Daisy showed plenty of holes in the defense.

That this worked without either ravens or ghosts shows for me that Grubby just had no clue on where to start with countering it. Also with the extra stalkers/colossi added, that is just plain bad.

And if it was a regular macro game all of that would have mattered.
As it was Grubby donated an army and that allowed hellion/tank numbers to grow out of control.
I agree he mismanaged engagements and build a poor composition but immortals were not the answer.
It was way too late for that.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1143
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:15:14
March 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#1144
lol lag problems
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1145
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.


I rate Dayshi's TvZ quite highly

But jjakji would be favored by quite a bit then.

Thanks for reply!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:15:37
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1146
In doubt, blame Emil

jk, Emil is cool !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#1147
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.

And going 3CC against a one base all in is not a good idea.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1148
If Dayshi plays this well he wins ez. No storm on the way and not that much ground.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1149
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1150
I'm sad they didn't change Alterzim too but 4 new maps is pretty good.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1151
Why is grubby cryng?? He is dead and the game maybe will be restarded before that
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1152
2014 and still no LAN. go grubby!
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
March 26 2014 21:16 GMT
#1153
On March 27 2014 06:13 NovaMB wrote:
My cat is blocking my chair T_T


Your cat clearly plays toss
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:17:27
March 26 2014 21:17 GMT
#1154
On March 27 2014 06:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.


I rate Dayshi's TvZ quite highly

But jjakji would be favored by quite a bit then.

Thanks for reply!


Yeah I agree with both of those statements, I think the first match of tonight was Snute shining far more than it was Dayshi being weak in TvZ.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 26 2014 21:17 GMT
#1155
what is grubby doing with his hands
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 26 2014 21:18 GMT
#1156
On March 27 2014 06:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.


SWAGHO IS A GOD, it aint his fault Hero couldnt be stuffed to look at the map.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1157
On March 27 2014 06:18 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 06:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
On March 27 2014 06:11 DJHelium wrote:
How's Dayshi's TvT? Does he prefer mech or bio?

IIRC he is a bio player.


That's what I know as well. In terms of match-up strength, he's been doing well against French Terrans, but not so well against non-French Terrans (lost to Xenocider and HeRoMaRinE recently). His TvT is weaker than his TvZ, take that as you will.

Wasn't his loss to Xeno in Shoutcraft clan wars though? Wonky maps.


That's not exactly an excuse imo.


SWAGHO IS A GOD, it aint his fault Hero couldnt be stuffed to look at the map.


I agree with that even more than I normally would, given how HerO acted after losing.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1158
How can you not know Croque Monsieur, Apollo? =.=
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
March 26 2014 21:19 GMT
#1159
Croque monsieur is awesome !
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Arthayze
Profile Joined January 2014
France108 Posts
March 26 2014 21:20 GMT
#1160
I ate Croque Monsieur tonight, I'm ready to be fully part of the e-Sports scene now.
Lifuuuuu
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