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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 15 2014 23:12 GMT
#6841
Comparing retirement rates is asinine, it tells us nothing. People retire from esports all the time, and for good reason. It's a really bad place to get stuck in.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
HYRULE15
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany72 Posts
March 15 2014 23:15 GMT
#6842
sOs just comming to foreign tournaments to grab the 100k haha.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 23:16 GMT
#6843
On March 16 2014 08:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How were the games today? Any good series? Seems a lot of blink usage?

Surprised no one has mentioned Life vs Taeja which was the series of the tourney imo
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 15 2014 23:16 GMT
#6844
pvp finals actually suck. all mirror finals do, except maybe tvt
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 15 2014 23:18 GMT
#6845
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
johnnyapplec
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
March 15 2014 23:20 GMT
#6846
On March 16 2014 07:40 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:25 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:24 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:21 scypio wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:18 scypio wrote:
Fun fact: if you take a look at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments and look for four worst-balanced consecutive tournaments 2014 will simply rise and shine, with 7/8 protoss in finals of
IEM Season VIII - World Championship, IEM Season VIII - Cologne ,ASUS ROG Winter 2014 and IEM Season VIII - Sao Paulo.

It has never been this bad. We had 6/8 zergs at the fall of 2012, with Life and Leenock (MLG Fall Championship), Sniper and HyuN (GSL Season 5), Nerchio and Bly (Dreamhack Open Bucharest) split by Mana and ForGG (ESWC 2012).

Terran reached similiar level of OP in 2010 (starting with DreamHack Winter 2010), and July 2011 (starting with 2011 MLG Anaheim) with 6/8 players in four finals.

It has never been as bad. Not even in the darkest days of WoL.

You should take more than race distribution at the finals for consideration.


I wanted to make a post about racial distribution at the finals

Usually the balance is judged by Ro16-Ro8 racial distribution.

This just isn't true.

Eh, why?

Judging balance from the Ro16 is (normally) not helpful. In any given tournament there are bound to be 16 players who are strictly better than the rest. For example, if at a Dreamhack which has multiple group stages there ended up being 16 protoss in the ro16 but those 16 were all the Koreans does that reflect on balance? Or if the same thing happened and there was an even racial distribution but once again with all the Koreans getting through would that really reflect if there were issues or not?


judging by ro16 makes way more sense than finals
2 out of those 7 protoss is herO, maybe herO is just really really good?

And so many series in this tournament went 3-2, how can anyone cry balance...


Because in the past four premier tournaments (including this one) protoss have won all of them. 3 pvps and one pvt.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#6847
On March 16 2014 08:18 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!


Watch the vods if you want to rage.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#6848
On March 16 2014 08:16 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How were the games today? Any good series? Seems a lot of blink usage?

Surprised no one has mentioned Life vs Taeja which was the series of the tourney imo

Jjakji vs. Revival was pretty good too.
kiss kiss fall in love
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 15 2014 23:23 GMT
#6849
On March 16 2014 08:21 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:18 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!


Watch the vods if you want to rage.


I'm not the kind of guy who rages!

More the kind of guy who sighs, goes to bed and silently cry myself to sleep.. so will probably do that?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 23:27:09
March 15 2014 23:24 GMT
#6850
On March 16 2014 08:16 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How were the games today? Any good series? Seems a lot of blink usage?

Surprised no one has mentioned Life vs Taeja which was the series of the tourney imo


says you ^^
i watched it and didnt liked it that much ...
to much WAY to much mistakes by life ... he not played his A game (its not good if you explode your own banelings and movecommand your mutas in death)


afterall the 2 by far best playing players of this tournament are in the finals
totaly deserved it ! by far! the best ones

On March 16 2014 08:23 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:21 imrusty269 wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:18 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!


Watch the vods if you want to rage.


I'm not the kind of guy who rages!

More the kind of guy who sighs, goes to bed and silently cry myself to sleep.. so will probably do that?


let me say this in the words of idra "building carriers is a good skill toi have"

On March 16 2014 08:16 boxerfred wrote:
pvp finals actually suck. all mirror finals do, except maybe tvt


so your terran ? ^^ because for me all mirrors sucks expect pvp

and guys terran isnt weak or anything ^^ 2 terrans in semi was good tournament, they just was not as good skillwise as the protosses this time
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Morphage
Profile Joined September 2011
France492 Posts
March 15 2014 23:27 GMT
#6851
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 15 2014 23:30 GMT
#6852
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.
kiss kiss fall in love
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 23:30 GMT
#6853
On March 16 2014 08:24 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:16 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How were the games today? Any good series? Seems a lot of blink usage?

Surprised no one has mentioned Life vs Taeja which was the series of the tourney imo


says you ^^
i watched it and didnt liked it that much ...
to much WAY to much mistakes by life ... he not played his A game (its not good if you explode your own banelings and movecommand your mutas in death)


afterall the 2 by far best playing players of this tournament are in the finals
totaly deserved it ! by far! the best ones

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:23 DJHelium wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:21 imrusty269 wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:18 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!


Watch the vods if you want to rage.


I'm not the kind of guy who rages!

More the kind of guy who sighs, goes to bed and silently cry myself to sleep.. so will probably do that?


let me say this in the words of idra "building carriers is a good skill toi have"

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:16 boxerfred wrote:
pvp finals actually suck. all mirror finals do, except maybe tvt


so your terran ? ^^ because for me all mirrors sucks expect pvp

and guys terran isnt weak or anything ^^ 2 terrans in semi was good tournament, they just was not as good skillwise as the protosses this time

Lol fine whatever you say with your enormous personal bias. Feel free to look at the recommended game polls
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#6854
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.

Real dragons don't blink around like faulty light bulbs. Real dragons use reaver/shuttle micro.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#6855
On March 16 2014 08:37 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.

Real dragons don't blink around like faulty light bulbs. Real dragons use reaver/shuttle micro.

Pfft. "faulty light bulbs." What do you think dragoon pathing was..?
kiss kiss fall in love
Morphage
Profile Joined September 2011
France492 Posts
March 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#6856
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.


WCS EU has some strong Protoss players like San, Stardust, maybe MC, WCS AM not so much, and GSL Code S already has a Protoss in the final so we could have a lot of Protoss winners during the next month.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 15 2014 23:46 GMT
#6857
On March 16 2014 08:37 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:37 Squat wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.

Real dragons don't blink around like faulty light bulbs. Real dragons use reaver/shuttle micro.

Pfft. "faulty light bulbs." What do you think dragoon pathing was..?

Dragon pathing was the equivalent of putting a squirrel in the driver seat. Controlling them was hard, which was the point.

Tbh, I just resent the use of the honorific of Dragon, that should be reserved for protoss BW legends. Stork, Bisu and Jangbi are the only true Dragons as I see it.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 23:49 GMT
#6858
On March 16 2014 08:46 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:37 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:37 Squat wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.

Real dragons don't blink around like faulty light bulbs. Real dragons use reaver/shuttle micro.

Pfft. "faulty light bulbs." What do you think dragoon pathing was..?

Dragon pathing was the equivalent of putting a squirrel in the driver seat. Controlling them was hard, which was the point.

Tbh, I just resent the use of the honorific of Dragon, that should be reserved for protoss BW legends. Stork, Bisu and Jangbi are the only true Dragons as I see it.

Such disrespect to the other three. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Six_Dragons
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
March 15 2014 23:51 GMT
#6859
On March 16 2014 08:30 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:24 Drake wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:16 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How were the games today? Any good series? Seems a lot of blink usage?

Surprised no one has mentioned Life vs Taeja which was the series of the tourney imo


says you ^^
i watched it and didnt liked it that much ...
to much WAY to much mistakes by life ... he not played his A game (its not good if you explode your own banelings and movecommand your mutas in death)


afterall the 2 by far best playing players of this tournament are in the finals
totaly deserved it ! by far! the best ones

On March 16 2014 08:23 DJHelium wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:21 imrusty269 wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:18 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the entire day, sad to see jj lost 0-3

Will watch the vods tomorrow as well as the finals, hope it's a great one!


Watch the vods if you want to rage.


I'm not the kind of guy who rages!

More the kind of guy who sighs, goes to bed and silently cry myself to sleep.. so will probably do that?


let me say this in the words of idra "building carriers is a good skill toi have"

On March 16 2014 08:16 boxerfred wrote:
pvp finals actually suck. all mirror finals do, except maybe tvt


so your terran ? ^^ because for me all mirrors sucks expect pvp

and guys terran isnt weak or anything ^^ 2 terrans in semi was good tournament, they just was not as good skillwise as the protosses this time

Lol fine whatever you say with your enormous personal bias. Feel free to look at the recommended game polls

because those are completely unbiased, let's be real here...
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 15 2014 23:53 GMT
#6860
On March 16 2014 08:49 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:46 Squat wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:37 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:37 Squat wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 08:27 Morphage wrote:
Fun fact: All premier tournaments in 2014 have been won by Protoss so far, 3/4 of the finals were PvP.

The first season of WCS isn't even done yet, so I guess we can't say that it's the era of the dragons yet.

Real dragons don't blink around like faulty light bulbs. Real dragons use reaver/shuttle micro.

Pfft. "faulty light bulbs." What do you think dragoon pathing was..?

Dragon pathing was the equivalent of putting a squirrel in the driver seat. Controlling them was hard, which was the point.

Tbh, I just resent the use of the honorific of Dragon, that should be reserved for protoss BW legends. Stork, Bisu and Jangbi are the only true Dragons as I see it.

Such disrespect to the other three. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Six_Dragons

I don't think Kal, Free or Best merit the title of Dragon. It should be something like Bonwja, something obscenely difficult to attain, a mark of greatness that stands out even among other prodigies. The prestige of being called Dragon requires, nay demands, no less in my eyes.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
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