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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
March 08 2014 21:53 GMT
#781
On March 09 2014 06:49 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:43 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:42 sitromit wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:39 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:38 sitromit wrote:
It's kind of a shame that SC2 is like a side event at this tournament.


once again, SC2 has a stream dedicated solely to it, as well as 45-50% air time on the main stream. If anything HS fans are getting shafted having to sit through SC2 just to watch their own game. They don't have a side stream.

But the HS stream is the main stream and it has no downtime, and HS matches seem to take a lot longer than the SC2 bo3s, so the air time on the main stream is dominated by HS. Meanwhile, the B stream has a ton of downtime, and the setup with the casters is not as slick as the HS stream. It has lower production quality. As a spectator, it feels to me that this is a HS tournament with some SC2 side action.


That's exactly what it is



Sigh.. welcome to the future of esports. Where RNG is preferable to skill.


the future of esports is whatever people decide they want to watch, you might not like it, I don't like it personally, but It's gaining momentum compared to SC.

Just wait until Heroes blows everything else Blizzard has made out of the water. I guarantee that game will be pulling 2-3 times what SC2 did at it's peak with 3 months of release.

comparing f2p casual game with 50$ non casual game yeaaa
yo
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 08 2014 21:54 GMT
#782
On March 09 2014 06:53 stuchiu wrote:
Rotterdam has a build kind of like what Grubby is doing. Except he makes a stalker and then harasses and then dies to a roach slow ling all-in.

that sounds like a good build to copy
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 21:54 GMT
#783
On March 09 2014 06:49 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:49 Squat wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:43 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:42 sitromit wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:39 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:38 sitromit wrote:
It's kind of a shame that SC2 is like a side event at this tournament.


once again, SC2 has a stream dedicated solely to it, as well as 45-50% air time on the main stream. If anything HS fans are getting shafted having to sit through SC2 just to watch their own game. They don't have a side stream.

But the HS stream is the main stream and it has no downtime, and HS matches seem to take a lot longer than the SC2 bo3s, so the air time on the main stream is dominated by HS. Meanwhile, the B stream has a ton of downtime, and the setup with the casters is not as slick as the HS stream. It has lower production quality. As a spectator, it feels to me that this is a HS tournament with some SC2 side action.


That's exactly what it is



Sigh.. welcome to the future of esports. Where RNG is preferable to skill.


the future of esports is whatever people decide they want to watch, you might not like it, I don't like it personally, but It's gaining momentum compared to SC.

Just wait until Heroes blows everything else Blizzard has made out of the water. I guarantee that game will be pulling 2-3 times what SC2 did at it's peak with 3 months of release.

DEAAAD GAAAME

A free moba with low mechanical requirements based on a highly recognizable and very popular franchise, it can't really help but to succeed. SC2 can never compete with games like that and the comparison is kind of dumb. But yes, HotS will completely eclipse both SC2 and HS, on my word and honour as a random person on the internet.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2014 21:54 GMT
#784
On March 09 2014 06:52 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:43 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:42 sitromit wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:39 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:38 sitromit wrote:
It's kind of a shame that SC2 is like a side event at this tournament.


once again, SC2 has a stream dedicated solely to it, as well as 45-50% air time on the main stream. If anything HS fans are getting shafted having to sit through SC2 just to watch their own game. They don't have a side stream.

But the HS stream is the main stream and it has no downtime, and HS matches seem to take a lot longer than the SC2 bo3s, so the air time on the main stream is dominated by HS. Meanwhile, the B stream has a ton of downtime, and the setup with the casters is not as slick as the HS stream. It has lower production quality. As a spectator, it feels to me that this is a HS tournament with some SC2 side action.


That's exactly what it is



Sigh.. welcome to the future of esports. Where RNG is preferable to skill.


the future of esports is whatever people decide they want to watch, you might not like it, I don't like it personally, but It's gaining momentum compared to SC.


Yeah, theres no game I´ve spent more time on than SC 2 - except for WoW maybe - BUT recently the magic just "vanished". The SC 2 matches became to repetetive...
And HS is something new at least for now. And I like it + I like the commentating.


I had the magic vanish on me before, but it always comes back. That's why I like SC2 more than any other game, because I keep coming back to it while other games lose their appeal after 2-3 months.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 08 2014 21:56 GMT
#785
On March 09 2014 06:54 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:49 Lorning wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:49 Squat wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:43 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:42 sitromit wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:39 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:38 sitromit wrote:
It's kind of a shame that SC2 is like a side event at this tournament.


once again, SC2 has a stream dedicated solely to it, as well as 45-50% air time on the main stream. If anything HS fans are getting shafted having to sit through SC2 just to watch their own game. They don't have a side stream.

But the HS stream is the main stream and it has no downtime, and HS matches seem to take a lot longer than the SC2 bo3s, so the air time on the main stream is dominated by HS. Meanwhile, the B stream has a ton of downtime, and the setup with the casters is not as slick as the HS stream. It has lower production quality. As a spectator, it feels to me that this is a HS tournament with some SC2 side action.


That's exactly what it is



Sigh.. welcome to the future of esports. Where RNG is preferable to skill.


the future of esports is whatever people decide they want to watch, you might not like it, I don't like it personally, but It's gaining momentum compared to SC.

Just wait until Heroes blows everything else Blizzard has made out of the water. I guarantee that game will be pulling 2-3 times what SC2 did at it's peak with 3 months of release.

DEAAAD GAAAME

A free moba with low mechanical requirements based on a highly recognizable and very popular franchise, it can't really help but to succeed. SC2 can never compete with games like that and the comparison is kind of dumb. But yes, HotS will completely eclipse both SC2 and HS, on my word and honour as a random person on the internet.


Heroes will be insanely popular because It's blizzard characters, I mean who doesn't want to play as illidan.

Who knows about the esport aspect though, World of Tanks has millions of players and abysmal esport numbers.
Beta2k
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria218 Posts
March 08 2014 21:57 GMT
#786
On March 09 2014 06:53 YoloSwaggins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:52 Beta2k wrote:
why are the casters not calling him stephano anymore? they are saying "ilias" all the time.. ?


maybe if you think very hard about his name ilyes satouri, maybe then you'll get it


holy cow. you dont say??

...

of course i knew that, but i thought he wants to leave the stephano-moniker behind him or something. i think i over-interpreted it..
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 08 2014 21:57 GMT
#787
Pretty sick amount of phoenix
Neosteel Enthusiast
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2014 21:58 GMT
#788
This is quite the hard supply block
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 08 2014 21:59 GMT
#789
This is some bad macro from Grubby.
Moderator
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 21:59 GMT
#790
On March 09 2014 06:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 06:54 Squat wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:49 Lorning wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:49 Squat wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:43 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:42 sitromit wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:39 Dodgin wrote:
On March 09 2014 06:38 sitromit wrote:
It's kind of a shame that SC2 is like a side event at this tournament.


once again, SC2 has a stream dedicated solely to it, as well as 45-50% air time on the main stream. If anything HS fans are getting shafted having to sit through SC2 just to watch their own game. They don't have a side stream.

But the HS stream is the main stream and it has no downtime, and HS matches seem to take a lot longer than the SC2 bo3s, so the air time on the main stream is dominated by HS. Meanwhile, the B stream has a ton of downtime, and the setup with the casters is not as slick as the HS stream. It has lower production quality. As a spectator, it feels to me that this is a HS tournament with some SC2 side action.


That's exactly what it is



Sigh.. welcome to the future of esports. Where RNG is preferable to skill.


the future of esports is whatever people decide they want to watch, you might not like it, I don't like it personally, but It's gaining momentum compared to SC.

Just wait until Heroes blows everything else Blizzard has made out of the water. I guarantee that game will be pulling 2-3 times what SC2 did at it's peak with 3 months of release.

DEAAAD GAAAME

A free moba with low mechanical requirements based on a highly recognizable and very popular franchise, it can't really help but to succeed. SC2 can never compete with games like that and the comparison is kind of dumb. But yes, HotS will completely eclipse both SC2 and HS, on my word and honour as a random person on the internet.


Heroes will be insanely popular because It's blizzard characters, I mean who doesn't want to play as illidan.

Who knows about the esport aspect though, World of Tanks has millions of players and abysmal esport numbers.

Exactly agree on point one, unsure about point two. It could indeed be hard to fight your way into a market already balkanized into LoL and Dota camps. Still, I think the huge numbers that are more or less guaranteed on twitch will attract sponsors and potential prize money.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 08 2014 22:00 GMT
#791
This is kind of like how wc3 players used to play 6 months into SC2.
Moderator
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 08 2014 22:00 GMT
#792
I've seen Arthur win with a 15minute 1 base. Nothing is lost yet.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 08 2014 22:01 GMT
#793
godammit Stephano

SWARMHOOOSTS
Community News
TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 22:01 GMT
#794
Also, the fuck are you doing Stephano, we are 10 minutes in and not a single host on the map. Son, I am disappoint.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 08 2014 22:04 GMT
#795
Why is this thread so slow. HYPE
Neosteel Enthusiast
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2014 22:04 GMT
#796
Well, Grubby is in a great position now.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 08 2014 22:05 GMT
#797
Stephano should have taken a 4th earlier and transitioned to swarmhosts, he had time. Can't believe I am saying Stephano should have gone swarm hosts rofl.
Red and yellow are all I see
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 08 2014 22:05 GMT
#798
Stephano
Community News
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 08 2014 22:05 GMT
#799
cya for the next homestory cup, nestea.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 08 2014 22:05 GMT
#800
Bit of a throw from Stephano.
Red and yellow are all I see
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