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France12758 Posts
On March 06 2014 14:29 chairmobile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 14:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 06 2014 13:55 rednalyaw wrote:On March 06 2014 13:09 `dunedain wrote:On March 06 2014 10:51 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:43 Darkhorse wrote:On March 06 2014 10:42 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:32 mikumegurine wrote:
lol Taeja just messin with Major, letting him the first series like before seasons bro. suck my gigant dick fuck you piece of shit. because people like you it makes me wonder why the fuck do i even play. so sir. take this middle finger .l. and put it inside your ass Take some time to cool off  the loss must be hard but you shouldn't come in here and flame a guy like that. man its just bs. it happens everytime atleast to me i beat someone i shouldnt beat according to them and its always consider a fluke or just they trowing the game. it wouldnt matter if it just was 1game but than comments like this start chains and ppl start believing that its extremly frustrating. whats the point of all time i spend preparing. if i win just so 1 guy goes to a forum types 1 line of nonsense and now most ppl who read that. believe that kind of garbage. i am upset not about losing, i am upset because the way people in this community act. Don't let the trolls get to you. You make the foreign scene proud! Keep on keepin' on! "Trolls" I think Major has weak micro and he hasn't improved in the past 3 years. Goswser has told me that he had by far the worst placement rankings in the CJ Entus house. I don't think he'll ever be a top foreigner, and he won vs Taeja solely from lag. Does that make me a troll? People are entitled to their opinions and aren't obligated to sugarcoat everything. It doesn't make you a troll but your opinion is worthless none the less. You don't have any credibility, nor are you speaking from a position of authority. Nobody has a reason to care about what you have to say. You're not a pro-player, you're not an industry insider, you're not an analyst, team owner, manager, tournament organizer, caster, pundit, journalist, reporter or anything else for that matter. So you have to ask yourself, why exactly are you sharing your opinion? What's the purpose of it? It's not going to convince anyone, because again you don't speak from a position of authority and opinions are the most worthless things in the world unless you have some way of making people care, which by the looks of it you don't. Namedropping Goswser? Really? You think he'd be pleased that you're dragging him into this? Doubt it. So what's the conclusion when a proplayer reads something like this? Well they're gonna conclude, "Hey this guy is a troll, because the only purpose of him posting this way to piss people off". That might not be your intention but all that means is that you're delusional about the importance of your opinion as opposed to being genuinely malicious about it. I guess that's slightly better but frankly unless you have some way of being constructive or at least genuinely interesting, it's probably best just to not post at all. Your opinion serves no purpose and ultimately just leads to people getting annoyed, so understand why it is that people would call you a troll when the end result of your post is the same as it would be were you trolling. So every post by everyone who isn't a pro/caster/coach, ie, 99% of this forum, should just be "dude nice try! glhf next time!" or it's trolling? Makes very little sense to me, but then again I'm not a code S korean so my opinion obviously means nothing right?
The funniest is that I imagine a lot of "simple" TL readers are more knowledgeable/better at SC2 than a fair lot of casters, so their opinion can't really be more worthless.
Didn't see the games, but the results are promising, not everyday that a foreigner terran beats a korean (especially when this korean is TaeJa!).
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Well looks like I missed some Esports egos.
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Noooo Major
I thought he should be able to advance easily after the first series
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Good job dumpsters, glad you guys never worked hard for anything in your life.
Like kids who want to say dumb shit after a game about a player, think about it for a second, would you ever consider saying what you said to that player's face? That's why Major reacted the way he did. Kids think they can hide behind the internet and spit shit because they think their opinion is worth something (hint: it's really not). Then when someone like TB calls them out on it and points that out, people get upset when in fact TB is very correct.
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It's not the opinion that matters, it's the fact that people like to think of themselves as more important than they are. The ultimate "I have a voice" except you're using that voice in an utterly detrimental manner.
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On March 06 2014 14:29 chairmobile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 14:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 06 2014 13:55 rednalyaw wrote:On March 06 2014 13:09 `dunedain wrote:On March 06 2014 10:51 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:43 Darkhorse wrote:On March 06 2014 10:42 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:32 mikumegurine wrote:
lol Taeja just messin with Major, letting him the first series like before seasons bro. suck my gigant dick fuck you piece of shit. because people like you it makes me wonder why the fuck do i even play. so sir. take this middle finger .l. and put it inside your ass Take some time to cool off the loss must be hard but you shouldn't come in here and flame a guy like that. man its just bs. it happens everytime atleast to me i beat someone i shouldnt beat according to them and its always consider a fluke or just they trowing the game. it wouldnt matter if it just was 1game but than comments like this start chains and ppl start believing that its extremly frustrating. whats the point of all time i spend preparing. if i win just so 1 guy goes to a forum types 1 line of nonsense and now most ppl who read that. believe that kind of garbage. i am upset not about losing, i am upset because the way people in this community act. Don't let the trolls get to you. You make the foreign scene proud! Keep on keepin' on! "Trolls" I think Major has weak micro and he hasn't improved in the past 3 years. Goswser has told me that he had by far the worst placement rankings in the CJ Entus house. I don't think he'll ever be a top foreigner, and he won vs Taeja solely from lag. Does that make me a troll? People are entitled to their opinions and aren't obligated to sugarcoat everything. It doesn't make you a troll but your opinion is worthless none the less. You don't have any credibility, nor are you speaking from a position of authority. Nobody has a reason to care about what you have to say. You're not a pro-player, you're not an industry insider, you're not an analyst, team owner, manager, tournament organizer, caster, pundit, journalist, reporter or anything else for that matter. So you have to ask yourself, why exactly are you sharing your opinion? What's the purpose of it? It's not going to convince anyone, because again you don't speak from a position of authority and opinions are the most worthless things in the world unless you have some way of making people care, which by the looks of it you don't. Namedropping Goswser? Really? You think he'd be pleased that you're dragging him into this? Doubt it. So what's the conclusion when a proplayer reads something like this? Well they're gonna conclude, "Hey this guy is a troll, because the only purpose of him posting this way to piss people off". That might not be your intention but all that means is that you're delusional about the importance of your opinion as opposed to being genuinely malicious about it. I guess that's slightly better but frankly unless you have some way of being constructive or at least genuinely interesting, it's probably best just to not post at all. Your opinion serves no purpose and ultimately just leads to people getting annoyed, so understand why it is that people would call you a troll when the end result of your post is the same as it would be were you trolling. So every post by everyone who isn't a pro/caster/coach, ie, 99% of this forum, should just be "dude nice try! glhf next time!" or it's trolling? Makes very little sense to me, but then again I'm not a code S korean so my opinion obviously means nothing right?
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That's amazing that major won the first series, sucks that these cowardly trolls want to mock him from behind their monitors despite such a badass achievement.
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Lol. I like Total Biscuit. His contributions to SC2 are many. But come on, man...Did you really just call someone out on a forum because their opinion on someone's skill is worthless? You're like, easily in the top 3 of casters who have no idea what they're talking about during an SC2 game. If you and CatsPajamas casted an SC2 game, I don't think a single relevant sentence would be uttered.
Like I said, I appreciate your contributions. But that was the silliest thing you could have posted
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I think this is a prime example of why you shouldn't read threads/reddit as a player. All it ever does is screw with your head.
I guess it must be super hard to resist of course.
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On March 06 2014 15:53 MerciLess wrote:
Lol. I like Total Biscuit. His contributions to SC2 are many. But come on, man...Did you really just call someone out on a forum because their opinion on someone's skill is worthless? You're like, easily in the top 3 of casters who have no idea what they're talking about during an SC2 game. If you and CatsPajamas casted an SC2 game, I don't think a single relevant sentence would be uttered.
Like I said, I appreciate your contributions. But that was the silliest thing you could have posted
He wasn't bragging about his SC2 knowledge though, was he?
Pretty sure some people have ADD when reading posts.
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On March 06 2014 16:00 Green_25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 15:53 MerciLess wrote:
Lol. I like Total Biscuit. His contributions to SC2 are many. But come on, man...Did you really just call someone out on a forum because their opinion on someone's skill is worthless? You're like, easily in the top 3 of casters who have no idea what they're talking about during an SC2 game. If you and CatsPajamas casted an SC2 game, I don't think a single relevant sentence would be uttered.
Like I said, I appreciate your contributions. But that was the silliest thing you could have posted He wasn't bragging about his SC2 knowledge though, was he? Pretty sure some people have ADD when reading posts.
On March 06 2014 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Some people I think see fights and reasonable engagements from a player but don't think about the dire economic straits they are in behind it. You don't need to just trade evenly, you need to CRUSH your opponent with that kind of worker deficit, particularly when you are muling your way out of minerals so fast in your main and natural.
According to his reasoning he shouldn't have posted anything, considering he's in Plat (or Gold?) and knows very little about the game.
User was banned for this post.
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Point is opinions like that are worthless from the pov of a player, which he understands deeply as a team manager (he's probably seen first hand his players get upset about this stuff)
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Hmmm...
Everybody has the right to their opinion. Everybody also has the right to disregard somebody else's opinion (sometimes unfortunately). On places like here, we are going to see opinions we agree with, opinions we disagree with, shittily written opinions that are hard to comprehend, some other stuff, and trolls. It is up to the user to decide what opinions to acknowledge or disregard/ignore. Ideally, said user is able to distinguish between trollposts and opinions the user disagrees with. Usually on this forum users do a good job of that, which is why we can get such interesting discussion sometimes.
However, human emotion is a bitch sometimes. When said user is angry, disappointed, frustrated, crushed, he may not be able to distinguish between trollposts, shittily written posts which mean nothing, and posts that disagree with said user. That is how we get shitstorms (like this). It happens, it's a part of human nature.
Yeah, we are all just average users, but that is what 99% of the community is (average in this case is a not-progamer). We are more uninformed than the best players are, but that's the way all communities are to an extent. There isn't a large community out there that is just all specialists at whatever the community is for. For people who are saying that people's opinions aren't worth a damn, okay, but that basically means nobody on TL is worth listening to which makes me wonder why you are bothering being here.
Major, you played well. You got thrown in arguably the toughest group and came damn close to advancing.
Shoutout to my boy MrLightning with his awesome, hilarious example. <3
Edit: My post may seem a little random. This is in response to the discussion started by TB around page 40ish.
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On March 06 2014 15:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 14:29 chairmobile wrote:On March 06 2014 14:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 06 2014 13:55 rednalyaw wrote:On March 06 2014 13:09 `dunedain wrote:On March 06 2014 10:51 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:43 Darkhorse wrote:On March 06 2014 10:42 MajOr wrote:On March 06 2014 10:32 mikumegurine wrote:
lol Taeja just messin with Major, letting him the first series like before seasons bro. suck my gigant dick fuck you piece of shit. because people like you it makes me wonder why the fuck do i even play. so sir. take this middle finger .l. and put it inside your ass Take some time to cool off the loss must be hard but you shouldn't come in here and flame a guy like that. man its just bs. it happens everytime atleast to me i beat someone i shouldnt beat according to them and its always consider a fluke or just they trowing the game. it wouldnt matter if it just was 1game but than comments like this start chains and ppl start believing that its extremly frustrating. whats the point of all time i spend preparing. if i win just so 1 guy goes to a forum types 1 line of nonsense and now most ppl who read that. believe that kind of garbage. i am upset not about losing, i am upset because the way people in this community act. Don't let the trolls get to you. You make the foreign scene proud! Keep on keepin' on! "Trolls" I think Major has weak micro and he hasn't improved in the past 3 years. Goswser has told me that he had by far the worst placement rankings in the CJ Entus house. I don't think he'll ever be a top foreigner, and he won vs Taeja solely from lag. Does that make me a troll? People are entitled to their opinions and aren't obligated to sugarcoat everything. It doesn't make you a troll but your opinion is worthless none the less. You don't have any credibility, nor are you speaking from a position of authority. Nobody has a reason to care about what you have to say. You're not a pro-player, you're not an industry insider, you're not an analyst, team owner, manager, tournament organizer, caster, pundit, journalist, reporter or anything else for that matter. So you have to ask yourself, why exactly are you sharing your opinion? What's the purpose of it? It's not going to convince anyone, because again you don't speak from a position of authority and opinions are the most worthless things in the world unless you have some way of making people care, which by the looks of it you don't. Namedropping Goswser? Really? You think he'd be pleased that you're dragging him into this? Doubt it. So what's the conclusion when a proplayer reads something like this? Well they're gonna conclude, "Hey this guy is a troll, because the only purpose of him posting this way to piss people off". That might not be your intention but all that means is that you're delusional about the importance of your opinion as opposed to being genuinely malicious about it. I guess that's slightly better but frankly unless you have some way of being constructive or at least genuinely interesting, it's probably best just to not post at all. Your opinion serves no purpose and ultimately just leads to people getting annoyed, so understand why it is that people would call you a troll when the end result of your post is the same as it would be were you trolling. So every post by everyone who isn't a pro/caster/coach, ie, 99% of this forum, should just be "dude nice try! glhf next time!" or it's trolling? Makes very little sense to me, but then again I'm not a code S korean so my opinion obviously means nothing right? The funniest is that I imagine a lot of "simple" TL readers are more knowledgeable/better at SC2 than a fair lot of casters, so their opinion can't really be more worthless. Didn't see the games, but the results are promising, not everyday that a foreigner terran beats a korean (especially when this korean is TaeJa!).
Declaring that taeja threw his games to "mess" with major is not only insulting to major, but also to taeja.
Sharing your opinion on major's playstyle, decisions and overall performance is acceptable, being an ugly fuckin cunt is not and i m happy major shared his opinion of that douche.
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I think it's funny that several dozens of players go through the exact same thing (people fall just a little short, and people post shit about it on TL or reddit), but no one gives it a thought until it happens to Major. You think Major's feelings are hurt? What about the million time people call other players shit, bad, throwing games? As if their 8+ hour days of training everyday doesn't mean anything. I don't have a lot of sympathy for Major in this case, he's just like the rest. And to be clear, I feel bad for players, but Major doesn't merit anything above the rest.
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Whew did this take a nosedive.
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On March 06 2014 16:39 Darkhorse wrote:
Whew did this take a nosedive.
Nosedive? This looks like a header onto concrete
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On March 06 2014 15:53 MerciLess wrote:
Lol. I like Total Biscuit. His contributions to SC2 are many. But come on, man...Did you really just call someone out on a forum because their opinion on someone's skill is worthless? You're like, easily in the top 3 of casters who have no idea what they're talking about during an SC2 game. If you and CatsPajamas casted an SC2 game, I don't think a single relevant sentence would be uttered.
Like I said, I appreciate your contributions. But that was the silliest thing you could have posted
rofl thats so not what hes saying....hes simply explaining why posts come off as troll or ill-meant even if those arent the posters intentions....
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Point is opinions like that are worthless from the pov of a player, which he understands deeply as a team manager (he's probably seen first hand his players get upset about this stuff
TB literally said that the guy's opinion about Major's level of skill was worthless because he wasn't a pro player, etc. I was just saying that just about any random SC2 player's opinion is just as valid as Total Biscuit's, consider his knowledge of the game
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Yeah I too appreciate what TB does for the community but I don't think because you are just a "fan" that your opinions are worthless. I'm a fan of basketball and though I'll never get inside an NBA team/front office that doesn't make me any less knowledgeable about the sport and what I see game in game out.
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