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sweet jesus the memories coming flooding back right now from this zerg intermission music... holy ballsack
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I finally got internet again lol, here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches
Starts in + Show Spoiler [NesTea, Oz, Alicia, desRow in WCS AM P…] +- NesTea is at ~ 5.12 % chances for top 16 points of Season 1 ~ 55.05 % of the time NesTea wins and their chances go up to ~ 9.29 %. ~ 44.95 % of the time NesTea loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.00 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Oz is at ~ 5.81 % chances for top 16 points of Season 1 ~ 53.53 % of the time Oz wins and their chances go up to ~ 10.85 %. ~ 46.47 % of the time Oz loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.00 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Alicia is at ~ 21.83 % chances for top 16 points of Season 1 ~ 69.03 % of the time Alicia wins and their chances go up to ~ 31.62 %. ~ 30.97 % of the time Alicia loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.00 %. ------------------------------------------------- - desRow is at ~ 0.20 % chances for top 16 points of Season 1 ~ 22.39 % of the time desRow wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.88 %. ~ 77.61 % of the time desRow loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.00 %.
http://sc2.4ever.tv
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United States23455 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. aLive is to me very overrated. He beat the OSL champ at WCS season 2 finals 2-0, so he is basically the OSL 2013 champion.
Also most people don't think he's good so I wouldn't call him overrated.
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On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S
cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing!
Ok, Hyun is in rough shape right now, but aLive underrated? I think most people don't know he exists. lol.
MC and MVP might be the richest, but I'm not convinced that they are great right now. And polt just wrecked face at IEM this weekend. He is still in top form and will be a contender to win this WCS season.
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On February 19 2014 08:57 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. aLive is to me very overrated. He beat the OSL champ at WCS season 2 finals 2-0, so he is basically the OSL 2013 champion.
I hate this kind of logic.
My brother has beat the EU champion of chess in 96. I beat my brother in 96. Am I the best player in EU?
Even with a sample size of 50 games you can't say anything. The variance is too high.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:58 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. aLive is to me very overrated. He beat the OSL champ at WCS season 2 finals 2-0, so he is basically the OSL 2013 champion. I hate this kind of logic. My brother has beat the EU champion of chess in 96. I beat my brother in 96. Am I the best player in EU? Even with a sample size of 50 games you can't say anything. The variance is too high. It was a joke mate.
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On February 19 2014 08:58 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. aLive is to me very overrated. He beat the OSL champ at WCS season 2 finals 2-0, so he is basically the OSL 2013 champion. I hate this kind of logic. My brother has beat the EU champion of chess in 96. I beat my brother in 96. Am I the best player in EU? Even with a sample size of 50 games you can't say anything. The variance is too high. He's joking lol
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On February 19 2014 08:57 jakethesnake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing!
You learn every day. If it's not in hollywood movies and not on SC2/poker forums, I just wont learn it 
Also... to the two above posts. I don't understand jokes...
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United States23455 Posts
On February 19 2014 09:00 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:57 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing! You learn every day. If it's not in hollywood movies and not on SC2/poker forums, I just wont learn it  Also... to the two above posts. I don't understand jokes... I'm a MASSIVE aLive fanboy but I know his skill level haha.
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On February 19 2014 09:00 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 08:57 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 jakethesnake wrote: 24:30 is the perfect time to get zergling speed. And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing! You learn every day. If it's not in hollywood movies and not on SC2/poker forums, I just wont learn it  Also... to the two above posts. I don't understand jokes... Haha it's all good. If you know Darkhorse then you know he will make jokes about over-simplified logic, especially about aLive (Stuchiu is also great at it)
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lol rotti and bitter are loving desrow.
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Such bias from the casters haha
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Didn't Desrow just give away those 4 stalkers. Seems like he could chase them down since they had to go around after the blink, and he could blink on them from the mineral line.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 19 2014 09:03 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 09:00 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:57 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:39 Luolis wrote: [quote] And people say WCS NA is better than WCS EU xD Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing! You learn every day. If it's not in hollywood movies and not on SC2/poker forums, I just wont learn it  Also... to the two above posts. I don't understand jokes... Haha it's all good. If you know Darkhorse then you know he will make jokes about over-simplified logic, especially about aLive  (Stuchiu is also great at it)
I beat Combat-ex. I'm basically a WCG 2012 winner.
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Viewer count picking up woohoo!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Slow reactions. He could have either blinked in or recalled out.
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Desbro falling apart against Alicia after beating Apocalypse.
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On February 19 2014 09:05 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 09:03 Yorkie wrote:On February 19 2014 09:00 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:57 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:53 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:47 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:44 Mozdk wrote:On February 19 2014 08:41 jakethesnake wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Darkhorse wrote:On February 19 2014 08:40 Mozdk wrote: [quote]
Lol? Who says that. Me. And me. More Koreans > better Koreans? I guess I can see what you mean, but I see more top top tier in EU. Also way better foreigners imho. But I am not sure of current level of some of these KR Toss. Like Oz, Alicia, Crank, Arthur. Just haven't seen that many games with them lately. If any. Hey now, you just cherry picked a few of the many Koreans that WCS AM has, forgetting particularly JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber, aLive, Polt, Hyun, Revival, etc etc etc. WCS EU has jjajki and San. Given, jjakji is better than all of WCS AM combined, but that still isn't enough to make EU better than AM on the whole. Sorry I don't know what cherry picked is. I just mentioned the ppl I was in heavy doubt about. I mean about their level atm. JD, HerO, Taeja, Bomber I guess are always potential winners. aLive is to me very overrated. Hyun is playing at the lowest level I've ever seen him. Revival... No. As for Polt... I just don't understand how he keeps doing so well. His style is his own. And it (to me) shouldn't win that much. But I think his greatest force must be his decisions. He knows when to doom drop and when to send 1 in each base and preasure front. Something I think he does better than any. As for EU. I really like San atm. Much to learn from that guy. MC and MVP are the richest SC2'ers. Stardust and Jjakji woop. No Korean zergs :S cherry picked is when you just when you pick the best/most beneficial to suit your argument. And don't apologize for not knowing! You learn every day. If it's not in hollywood movies and not on SC2/poker forums, I just wont learn it  Also... to the two above posts. I don't understand jokes... Haha it's all good. If you know Darkhorse then you know he will make jokes about over-simplified logic, especially about aLive  (Stuchiu is also great at it) I beat Combat-ex. I'm basically a WCG 2012 winner. Bad example this one actually makes perfect sense
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Desbro has the upgrade advantage and if he can get away with the faster third he could do this
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United States23455 Posts
+1 timing with 2 ranged colossi should win I think.
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