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[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 145

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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 16 2014 17:53 GMT
#2881
Haha, that Take rage
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
February 16 2014 17:53 GMT
#2882
On February 17 2014 02:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:49 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:48 IntoTheheart wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:48 shabby wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:46 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:44 Abominous wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:43 NarutO wrote:
So hard to be a fan of INnoVation sometimes;;

Try being a JD fan, I gave up on him like 20 times this weekend only and the guy keeps proving me wrong :D

Not to mention he sometimes does this unstoppable runs in tourney's. Hypes you up so much that you drop your guards and then he just hits you while you are vulnerable by losing so horribly in the grand finals.



He is the more consistent Bomber.


So what's the Dong Law?

Get second every tournament you enter.


1. Dong always gets second.

2. If Dong fails to get second, he's simply setting up for another second-place?

Yes. You just perfectly stated the law. Now we need to notaries this. Any Lawyers around here ?
this is a quote
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2883
On February 17 2014 02:52 Serinox wrote:
Haha, for everyone who didn't watch the German stream:
+ Show Spoiler +

Amazing :D
Neosteel Enthusiast
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10156 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2884
On February 17 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:52 Serinox wrote:
Haha, for everyone who didn't watch the German stream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573HRh3qDPY

ROFL

We need a hitler video with Take's voice hahahaha
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2885
Also this is my favourite protoss vs my favourite Terran

Don't care who wins just want some cool games
Zerg for Life
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2886
What if Rain vs Polt is exactly like HerO vs Innovation, but in reverse
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2887
On February 17 2014 02:40 Tanzklaue wrote:
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On February 17 2014 02:37 Abominous wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:37 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:36 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Are you sure you're watching the same HotS as the rest of us?

ugh my bad, I meant 2014. Disregard earlier statement.

That I agree with.

yea same here. 2014 didn't look too sharp for the great dong.


Meh, I just feel it's a little too early to say that. He lost to MMA, Rain, ForGG, Life, Mana & Dayshi this year, so four times lost when he was about even with his opponent and twice when he was favoured. But then, he beat Stardust, Patience, Mana (second time), Solar, Hero (relevant now), Bomber & Curious and all the other people he was favoured against.

Are there any non-Protoss player who have looked really good in 2014 so far? Maybe TY, Maru, Soulkey & Roro, but they're all confined to Proleague where they all won/lost some games as well (Besides TY, who lost in Code A).
Cute
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2888
On February 17 2014 02:52 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
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On February 17 2014 02:51 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:48 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:45 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:39 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:36 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
[quote]
JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?

He's looked unimpressive for majority of games in 2014 at least, and early 2013 he looked fucking horrid vs protoss, and every zerg was losing vT for a while. So he's kind of right

Again...have you people been watching a completely different JD than the rest of us? His vP has improved *drastically* so I'm not sure why you're even bringing that up.
I will agree that his previous tournament he looked completely off, but the entire second half of 2013 was pretty much complete ownage from him, and he's back on form this tournament. I don't really understand how you can argue.

What part of early 2013 = second half of 2013

edit: I have no fucking clue what I'm doing with this apparently

Yeah, but it wasn't really the first half. He had a very succesful year overall. Actually it was even more impressive because of how he started it.

I was predicting jd to win wcs s2 before the season had even started. I know just how impressive it was, and that prediction was frankly ridiculous considering his play vs protoss at the time.

Yet somehow that translates to "JD has been thoroughly unimpressive in HotS. Wat.

You realize you are arguing over a typo? I corrected it to 2014, which is what I meant.

Well, I disagree with that, too. His last tournament he looked really bad in his last series but played well overall, and so far in this tournament he has been playing very well.

He's been playing off and on, he slid through vs patience mistakes (not including the last game), he lost to fucking mana (who is very good but no where on the level of jd)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2889
On February 17 2014 02:54 The_Templar wrote:
What if Rain vs Polt is exactly like HerO vs Innovation, but in reverse

I hope
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Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2890
On February 17 2014 02:52 Serinox wrote:
Haha, for everyone who didn't watch the German stream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573HRh3qDPY


Epic xD
In Somnis Veritas
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12818 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2891
On February 17 2014 02:51 Incognoto wrote:
All the players here are the definition of consistency.

agreed, this tournament is amazing.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2892
On February 17 2014 02:52 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:51 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:48 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:45 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:39 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:36 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
[quote]
JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?

He's looked unimpressive for majority of games in 2014 at least, and early 2013 he looked fucking horrid vs protoss, and every zerg was losing vT for a while. So he's kind of right

Again...have you people been watching a completely different JD than the rest of us? His vP has improved *drastically* so I'm not sure why you're even bringing that up.
I will agree that his previous tournament he looked completely off, but the entire second half of 2013 was pretty much complete ownage from him, and he's back on form this tournament. I don't really understand how you can argue.

What part of early 2013 = second half of 2013

edit: I have no fucking clue what I'm doing with this apparently

Yeah, but it wasn't really the first half. He had a very succesful year overall. Actually it was even more impressive because of how he started it.

I was predicting jd to win wcs s2 before the season had even started. I know just how impressive it was, and that prediction was frankly ridiculous considering his play vs protoss at the time.

Yet somehow that translates to "JD has been thoroughly unimpressive in HotS. Wat.

You realize you are arguing over a typo? I corrected it to 2014, which is what I meant.

Well, I disagree with that, too. His last tournament he looked really bad in his last series but played well overall, and so far in this tournament he has been playing very well.

Someone like JD is held to a different standard. If Soulkey got knocked out in the Ro16 of the GSL most would see that as a failure. For other players, just getting there would be a great achievement.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#2893
On February 17 2014 02:52 Serinox wrote:
Haha, for everyone who didn't watch the German stream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573HRh3qDPY

That video summarizes everything I know about Germany! <3
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
CheeseInSpace
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany146 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2894
Round of 4 contestants in detail: http://blog.e-rankings.com/?p=1725

[image loading]
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2895
GO JAEDONGU
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2896
Could someone please translate what TaKe said? Sorry for not knowing any German. :S
kiss kiss fall in love
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2897
On February 17 2014 02:55 CheeseInSpace wrote:
Round of 4 contestants in detail: http://blog.e-rankings.com/?p=1725

[image loading]


Nice job getting this up man thanks!
Zerg for Life
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2898
On February 17 2014 02:47 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:45 Eliezar wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.


Polt had no problem being in defensive positions in case of Oracles without skipping 2 barracks and building a turret blindly. Just bad bad bad StarCraft...gold level players blindly build defensive structures for no reason like that.

The *only* strat that Innovation prepared for in game 1 was Oracle...his opening was bad against most any other reasonable strat..

6 marines in your mineral line...that's all it takes to be safe against an oracle.


So we are talking about Innovation as a gold league scrub now?

Seriously I am out of here because I dont want to get banned.

Cya guys if we have TvZ finals.


Nope, you have a hard time understanding that a "gold league play" is a "gold league play" even if it is made by a top 5 Terran. Innovation used a really bad build in game 1 and made a really weird decision to lose game 3. See those are actions and they can be evaluated on their objective merit.

Similar to QXC throwing away his game three because he didn't spread his army and instead "A Moved" in. That's a sub Masters league play. That doesn't mean QXC is a sub masters player, but his bunched army into colossus was a "gold league a move" terran attack.

Critiquing an action is not attacking the ability of a player, its evaluating the action.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2899
On February 17 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:52 Serinox wrote:
Haha, for everyone who didn't watch the German stream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573HRh3qDPY

ROFL

wow, that is really embarrassing
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#2900
On February 17 2014 02:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


Papa White-Ra has spoken! You can't argue with him.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good to hear from him, am somewhat worried about him with the situation in the Ukraine.

oh christ i imagine what your media are saying. The grandpa's gonna be fine as fuck, i guarantee this.
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