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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 17:51:06
February 15 2014 17:50 GMT
#1441
On February 16 2014 02:48 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:48 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I wonder what team Mana will go to...

LYGF

" LYGF announces new super duper mega sponsor and picks up MANA!!! "

Scary part is that it wouldn't surprise me these days
The curse is real
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 15 2014 17:50 GMT
#1442
I'm rooting for Classic because I'm hipster like that and I've been saying he's amazing since forever
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2014 17:51 GMT
#1443
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 15 2014 17:52 GMT
#1444
Toooooooooooooood for PvPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 15 2014 17:52 GMT
#1445
Ah, ToD casting PvP

perfect
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ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 15 2014 17:52 GMT
#1446
On February 16 2014 02:46 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:44 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:38 tili wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:37 zev318 wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:34 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:29 bo1b wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are people bitching about? Mana hits hard, but JD simply has superior macro and game sense and wins the engagements.

Because 111 is just as abusive as sh, and both are awful, awful things to watch. The only reason this game will get like 4 stars or w/e is because jd held it.


Lol you're joking right? Nothing is as abusive as SH, sorry buddy.

And wtf is wrong with a held all-in? It's part of the game and it makes for some very, very intense situations at times. It was perfectly executed by JD and should get 4 stars.


i think it was more mana not executing it properly than JD holding. i dont doubt for a second that if it was a high level korean protoss, JD would have lost both games.


except, MC, the king of 2base all-ins wasn't so confident.........

MC isn't the king of 2base all-ins, the real king lives with skt atm.


Except it wasn't a high level Korean. And Mana didn't really do anything wrong besides miss some FF's. He was just too timid and should've went for the jugular. But like MC said, the Zerg was JD so you gotta respect him which probably contributed to Mana's reluctance to fully commit. Not to mention it was an elimination game, nerves running high man.


some? i think mana spent all of his ffs and maybe trapped < 5 roaches. that's not how you execute.


Except he was still fine even after that, just not recalling and pushing again while saving that army is the 1 decision that cost it. It still came down to a drone pull after that so saying he "completely blew it" just isn't right at all. Just giving JD credit for doing exactly what he needed to do. It was a damn intense situation but it seems everyones too jaded to appreciate it at this point.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 15 2014 17:53 GMT
#1447
CHIN CHIN CHIN

SK TELECOM
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 15 2014 17:53 GMT
#1448
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss


I know and I've said it ever since then! That makes me a hipster, yes?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 15 2014 17:53 GMT
#1449
On February 16 2014 02:52 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:46 zev318 wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:44 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:38 tili wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:37 zev318 wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:34 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:29 bo1b wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are people bitching about? Mana hits hard, but JD simply has superior macro and game sense and wins the engagements.

Because 111 is just as abusive as sh, and both are awful, awful things to watch. The only reason this game will get like 4 stars or w/e is because jd held it.


Lol you're joking right? Nothing is as abusive as SH, sorry buddy.

And wtf is wrong with a held all-in? It's part of the game and it makes for some very, very intense situations at times. It was perfectly executed by JD and should get 4 stars.


i think it was more mana not executing it properly than JD holding. i dont doubt for a second that if it was a high level korean protoss, JD would have lost both games.


except, MC, the king of 2base all-ins wasn't so confident.........

MC isn't the king of 2base all-ins, the real king lives with skt atm.


Except it wasn't a high level Korean. And Mana didn't really do anything wrong besides miss some FF's. He was just too timid and should've went for the jugular. But like MC said, the Zerg was JD so you gotta respect him which probably contributed to Mana's reluctance to fully commit. Not to mention it was an elimination game, nerves running high man.


some? i think mana spent all of his ffs and maybe trapped < 5 roaches. that's not how you execute.


Except he was still fine even after that, just not recalling and pushing again while saving that army is the 1 decision that cost it. It still came down to a drone pull after that so saying he "completely blew it" just isn't right at all. Just giving JD credit for doing exactly what he needed to do. It was a damn intense situation but it seems everyones too jaded to appreciate it at this point.


Manas "micro" did more damage than the drone pull itself
The curse is real
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 15 2014 17:53 GMT
#1450
On February 16 2014 02:49 ArTiFaKs wrote:
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On February 16 2014 02:42 Squat wrote:
It's something about the idea that you can see in an all in coming well in advance, take appropriate measures, and still lose that just bother some people, myself included. Mana lost that because he messed up, repeatedly. It's a map issue more than anything, Yeonsou is just an awful map.


You can "take appropriate measures" to a lot of builds and still lose, that's Starcraft. It's executing those "appropriate measures" that seperates the winner from the loser. And exactly like you said, Jaedong executed his part much better than Mana did. I wouldn't say Mana "messed up repeatedly" because he really didn't. Just a missed FF once or twice can completely change the game, and like MC said if he would've recalled after killing the roach warren, collected maybe 1 immortal or 2 and left again, while warping in some more sentries, he would've been able to push again with all that army still alive and it would've been really potent. So that 1 decision really decided it in the end, everything after that was just JD taking control of the game.

So if Mana had basically not done any of the stuff he did post killing the roach warren, and done other things instead, he would likely have won? Doesn't that kind of explain the irritation on display here?
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#1451
Was it classic who got surgery for his chin, or was it stats?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#1452
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss

Eh he is definitely the hipster pick out of the Korean players that made the Ro8
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#1453
On February 16 2014 02:53 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:49 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:42 Squat wrote:
It's something about the idea that you can see in an all in coming well in advance, take appropriate measures, and still lose that just bother some people, myself included. Mana lost that because he messed up, repeatedly. It's a map issue more than anything, Yeonsou is just an awful map.


You can "take appropriate measures" to a lot of builds and still lose, that's Starcraft. It's executing those "appropriate measures" that seperates the winner from the loser. And exactly like you said, Jaedong executed his part much better than Mana did. I wouldn't say Mana "messed up repeatedly" because he really didn't. Just a missed FF once or twice can completely change the game, and like MC said if he would've recalled after killing the roach warren, collected maybe 1 immortal or 2 and left again, while warping in some more sentries, he would've been able to push again with all that army still alive and it would've been really potent. So that 1 decision really decided it in the end, everything after that was just JD taking control of the game.

So if Mana had basically not done any of the stuff he did post killing the roach warren, and done other things instead, he would likely have won? Doesn't that kind of explain the irritation on display here?

Don't bother
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#1454
On February 16 2014 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss


I know and I've said it ever since then! That makes me a hipster, yes?


You and everyone else that watched him play after switching from Terran ^^
The curse is real
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#1455
what happened to MC? he looks like a different person these days
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2014 17:55 GMT
#1456
On February 16 2014 02:54 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss

Eh he is definitely the hipster pick out of the Korean players that made the Ro8

what the hell how is classic hipster to anyone who follows korean scene
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2014 17:55 GMT
#1457
On February 16 2014 02:54 bo1b wrote:
Was it classic who got surgery for his chin, or was it stats?

stats
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 15 2014 17:55 GMT
#1458
On February 16 2014 02:54 bo1b wrote:
Was it classic who got surgery for his chin, or was it stats?

Stats iirc.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 15 2014 17:55 GMT
#1459
On February 16 2014 02:54 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss


I know and I've said it ever since then! That makes me a hipster, yes?


You and everyone else that watched him play after switching from Terran ^^

I'm sure that some old stx fans appreciated him
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 15 2014 17:56 GMT
#1460
On February 16 2014 02:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 02:54 Zealously wrote:
On February 16 2014 02:51 opterown wrote:
eh rooting for classic is hardly hipster nowadays, he's been amazing since switching to protoss

Eh he is definitely the hipster pick out of the Korean players that made the Ro8

what the hell how is classic hipster to anyone who follows korean scene


Following the Korean scene is hella hipster by itself!
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