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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#781
On February 15 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:
So Terran continues to race towards extinction then?


You say that, yet there's only 1 more Zerg left in group stages and we're only through 1 group lol
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#782
On February 15 2014 01:41 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:40 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:35 NovaMB wrote:
Stop fighting, theres 2 more TvP to complain about coming up

More. Expecting the following:
+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Patience > (T)qxc 1
(P)Dear > (T)jjakji 2
(P)Patience > (P)Dear
(T)jjakji > (T)qxc
(P)Dear > (T)jjakji 3!
And also a TvT <3!


I can tell that is wrong because jjakji doesn't come out in first place.


We need more of your expert photoshops Jake. Running out of screensavers.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#783
On February 15 2014 01:40 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:35 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:33 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:28 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.


Ah man i won't argue with you anymore i'm done. If you really think that last game was fair i can't do shit.


If it wasn't then every game would look like this. ForGG made mistakes, HerO exploited them. Stop whining.


Just because people disagree with how the game played out doesn't mean they're whining. You're just as bad as whiners by claiming everything is perfectly balanced.


Lol, you're the last person to complain about anything.

I never said the game was perfectly balanced, you're putting words in my mouth. But these two games were lost due to clear and simple mistakes by ForGG and NOT because of any perceived imbalances. There's nothing else to say about it.


I do complain about the state of the game currently because I do not feel it is balanced but in every single thread you whine about whiners pretending everything is hunky dory. It's just as bad to be honest.


The difference is that I make actual arguments as to why and how these games go in favor of protoss. And if I'm wrong feel free to prove me wrong! I'm quite open to it. But the only thing you ever do is post (passive) aggressive one liners.


I don't know anywhere near enough about the game to suggest how to balance it but plenty of people have tried to bring up arguments and counter suggestions to you in threads over the past few weeks and you're anything but open to it. If you honestly feel like every protoss is the better player whenever they win then no amount of debate can change such a warped view.


Personally I think that if someone is going to balance whine, they should either do so when they know enough to back their statements up, or not at all. Saying "others agree with me" and using that as an argument is silly.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#784
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#785
I don't believe in QXC in the sense that I don't believe he exists. He's like Peter Pan. A figment of the imagination of american fans.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#786
On February 15 2014 01:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:39 GumBa wrote:
Im not attacking mc he is great at what he does and is a fun guy just people going 4x better than inno are either trolls or dumb


I see you haven't yet learned that championing your favorite player in a balance discussion after your favorite player lost never works. Avoid it at all costs or you'll just get upset

You should definitely watch IEM tomorrow. There's a surprise for you and Dodgin. (I hope)
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#787
On February 15 2014 01:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:39 GumBa wrote:
Im not attacking mc he is great at what he does and is a fun guy just people going 4x better than inno are either trolls or dumb


I see you haven't yet learned that championing your favorite player in a balance discussion after your favorite player lost never works. Avoid it at all costs or you'll just get upset

They didnt even play thats tomorrow D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 16:44:45
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#788
On February 15 2014 01:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:33 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:28 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.


Ah man i won't argue with you anymore i'm done. If you really think that last game was fair i can't do shit.


If it wasn't then every game would look like this. ForGG made mistakes, HerO exploited them. Stop whining.


Just because people disagree with how the game played out doesn't mean they're whining. You're just as bad as whiners by claiming everything is perfectly balanced.


Lol, you're the last person who should complain about anything.

I never said the game was perfectly balanced, you're putting words in my mouth. But these two games were lost due to clear and simple mistakes by ForGG and NOT because of any perceived imbalances. There's nothing else to say about it.


With all due respect but I find it a bit offensive that you claim your opionon to be "correct" by stating "This is how it was" and ending with "there is nothing else to say about it".

Clearly from your posts you are atleast a bit biased towards HerO. Of course it is easy to point out the misstakes from ForGG. I can point out many of them form HerO aswell. However there is quite huge difference in how much misstakes you can make as a Terran vs Protoss these days and as of late I think the whole community quite much have agreed on that.

Please show some respect for other people having different opinions than you and dont tell them "there is nothing else to say about this".

I would atleast not say the games was lost because of "clear and simple" misstakes. It is quite hard to play Terran as it these days. I am sure ForGG did his best. You claim him to lose due to "easy and clear" misstakes and then stating there is no other explanation it is quite offensive.

Also dont want to take a discussion on why he lost. I just want to point out there might be more opions than yours and yours is not supreme to anyone else - perhaps you should be careful claiming that
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 14 2014 16:42 GMT
#789
On February 15 2014 01:42 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.

MLG Atlanta would be better
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 16:43 GMT
#790
On February 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:42 Aeromi wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.

MLG Atlanta would be better

Why would anyone go to Georgia?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 14 2014 16:43 GMT
#791
On February 15 2014 01:42 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:41 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:39 GumBa wrote:
Im not attacking mc he is great at what he does and is a fun guy just people going 4x better than inno are either trolls or dumb


I see you haven't yet learned that championing your favorite player in a balance discussion after your favorite player lost never works. Avoid it at all costs or you'll just get upset

You should definitely watch IEM tomorrow. There's a surprise for you and Dodgin. (I hope)

I dunno Lorning youve been rustlin my jimmies
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 14 2014 16:43 GMT
#792
On February 15 2014 01:42 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:
So Terran continues to race towards extinction then?


You say that, yet there's only 1 more Zerg left in group stages and we're only through 1 group lol


Well there was only going to ever be two cause no Zerg in Open bracket 2 could get past Patience.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 14 2014 16:43 GMT
#793
On February 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:42 Aeromi wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.

MLG Atlanta would be better

We need a good crown for that kind of tournament.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#794
On February 15 2014 01:42 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.


Blizzard dumping a gazillion dollars into O'Gaming and having them organise the Grand Finals would be sick
AdministratorBreak the chains
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#795
On February 15 2014 01:43 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:42 Lorning wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:39 GumBa wrote:
Im not attacking mc he is great at what he does and is a fun guy just people going 4x better than inno are either trolls or dumb


I see you haven't yet learned that championing your favorite player in a balance discussion after your favorite player lost never works. Avoid it at all costs or you'll just get upset

You should definitely watch IEM tomorrow. There's a surprise for you and Dodgin. (I hope)

I dunno Lorning youve been rustlin my jimmies

Gumba please.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 16:44:21
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#796
On February 15 2014 01:40 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:35 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:33 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:28 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.


Ah man i won't argue with you anymore i'm done. If you really think that last game was fair i can't do shit.


If it wasn't then every game would look like this. ForGG made mistakes, HerO exploited them. Stop whining.


Just because people disagree with how the game played out doesn't mean they're whining. You're just as bad as whiners by claiming everything is perfectly balanced.


Lol, you're the last person to complain about anything.

I never said the game was perfectly balanced, you're putting words in my mouth. But these two games were lost due to clear and simple mistakes by ForGG and NOT because of any perceived imbalances. There's nothing else to say about it.


I do complain about the state of the game currently because I do not feel it is balanced but in every single thread you whine about whiners pretending everything is hunky dory. It's just as bad to be honest.


The difference is that I make actual arguments as to why and how these games go in favor of protoss. And if I'm wrong feel free to prove me wrong! I'm quite open to it. But the only thing you ever do is post (passive) aggressive one liners.


I don't know anywhere near enough about the game to suggest how to balance it but plenty of people have tried to bring up arguments and counter suggestions to you in threads over the past few weeks and you're anything but open to it. If you honestly feel like every protoss is the better player whenever they win then no amount of debate can change such a warped view.


Exactly, which is exactly why I can't stand people like you whining.

If Dwf for example steps up and tells me I'm wrong and brings a good argument, I'm open to it. He knows more about the game than I do. And not sure if you only hear what you want to, but I've been pretty vocal about certain openings being too powerful for protoss.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#797
On February 15 2014 01:42 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:
So Terran continues to race towards extinction then?


You say that, yet there's only 1 more Zerg left in group stages and we're only through 1 group lol

Because there was only 1 Zerg "invited" + some fell in Stage 1.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#798
Act 2: Dear wins everything and we go home.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#799
On February 15 2014 01:43 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:42 Aeromi wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 Waxangel wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if they will stream all games at Blizzcon on the main stream this year? Probably not.


there won't be a blizzcon this yaer so they should be able to have a dedicated WCS event I think

An event called Iron Squid 3.

MLG Atlanta would be better

We need a good crown for that kind of tournament.


MLG Toronto should happen, Canada deserve more events. But not before the UK actually gets one, we're in more desperate need.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#800
On February 15 2014 01:44 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:43 GumBa wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:42 Lorning wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:41 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:39 GumBa wrote:
Im not attacking mc he is great at what he does and is a fun guy just people going 4x better than inno are either trolls or dumb


I see you haven't yet learned that championing your favorite player in a balance discussion after your favorite player lost never works. Avoid it at all costs or you'll just get upset

You should definitely watch IEM tomorrow. There's a surprise for you and Dodgin. (I hope)

I dunno Lorning youve been rustlin my jimmies

Gumba please.

at this rate he isnt going to take any of your suggestions for signs
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