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United States23455 Posts
On February 01 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:12 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:11 ThePlagueJG wrote:On February 01 2014 07:10 TimENT wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:
this is where I turn off the stream I guess :\ Yup. I'm never going to watch a non Terran matchup again in my life. Haven't for a year tbh Apoc played very well  That train is going to be derailed pretty hard against Dear I feel. He won 4 series against Protoss. 3-2 vs. elfi twice, 3-2 vs. patience and 3-2 vs. Welmu. I'll be shocked if he wins against Dear
He lost against elfi 3-2 one of those times, and beat another protoss 3-0 (Gungfubanda)
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On February 01 2014 07:14 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:On February 01 2014 07:12 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:11 ThePlagueJG wrote:On February 01 2014 07:10 TimENT wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:
this is where I turn off the stream I guess :\ Yup. I'm never going to watch a non Terran matchup again in my life. Haven't for a year tbh Apoc played very well That train is going to be derailed pretty hard against Dear I feel. He won 4 series against Protoss. 3-2 vs. elfi twice, 3-2 vs. patience and 3-2 vs. Welmu. I'll be shocked if he wins against Dear He lost the first time vs elfi
True, and he beat Gungfubanda 3-0. Its been a long day.
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On February 01 2014 07:14 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:11 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:05 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I'm starting to really consider elevating forGG to the same level of manliness as Polt. No. Polt won a GSL tournament in Korea then left Korea to get an education. ForGG said, "lel GSL is easy I can win the first one after I switch to SC2" then stalled in a couple ro16's and fled to Europe with his tail between his legs. True story. I think he was talking about "I dont care about colossus or storm I will play my style and be in your face all the time until one of us dies". And that is manly. I don't build ghosts in TvP because I am just that manly, plus you have to micro ghosts which is stupid. Well he explained it by saying that teching to ghosts puts him on the defensive which is true. Protoss will have storm out faster than terran can have ghosts because you need a healthy medivac count first. With his style he can pressure protoss all the time. If San hadn't adapted with phoenixes to stop drops, ForGG would win much easier I feel. That's why that series was pretty cool. ForGG very aggressive, and San adapting and showing some pretty cool decisions. San's one of the smartest Protoss players out there IMO, always cool to see what he comes up with.
Indeed. It was a very good series of PvT.
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On February 01 2014 07:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
Four of five of Apocalypse's series have gone 3-2. Five out of five of his series were against Protoss.
That is a very interesting fact
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On February 01 2014 07:15 Aeromi wrote: ForGG vs  Jaedong in RO8.
or Solar. Solar plz win :>
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On February 01 2014 07:14 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:11 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:05 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I'm starting to really consider elevating forGG to the same level of manliness as Polt. No. Polt won a GSL tournament in Korea then left Korea to get an education. ForGG said, "lel GSL is easy I can win the first one after I switch to SC2" then stalled in a couple ro16's and fled to Europe with his tail between his legs. True story. I think he was talking about "I dont care about colossus or storm I will play my style and be in your face all the time until one of us dies". And that is manly. I don't build ghosts in TvP because I am just that manly, plus you have to micro ghosts which is stupid. Well he explained it by saying that teching to ghosts puts him on the defensive which is true. Protoss will have storm out faster than terran can have ghosts because you need a healthy medivac count first. With his style he can pressure protoss all the time. If San hadn't adapted with phoenixes to stop drops, ForGG would win much easier I feel. That's why that series was pretty cool. ForGG very aggressive, and San adapting and showing some pretty cool decisions. San's one of the smartest Protoss players out there IMO, always cool to see what he comes up with.
Even during the time where San wasn't relevant in tournaments (2011-2012?), he got mentioned a ton in interviews as a player who came up with build orders for other players. So I agree, maybe smartest player out there BO creation wise!
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On February 01 2014 07:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
Four of five of Apocalypse's series have gone 3-2. Five out of five of his series were against Protoss.
Maybe he is barely winning to not make DK thinks terran is op 
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United States23455 Posts
So Jaedong/Solar vs. ForGG
Apoc vs. Dear
Life vs. San/Snute
Stardust vs. Welmu/Patience
Given the starting racial (and skill distribution) having 2 terrans in the ro8 isn't bad at all!
EDIT: Oops thought JD vs Solar was over.
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On February 01 2014 07:16 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:14 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 01 2014 07:11 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:05 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I'm starting to really consider elevating forGG to the same level of manliness as Polt. No. Polt won a GSL tournament in Korea then left Korea to get an education. ForGG said, "lel GSL is easy I can win the first one after I switch to SC2" then stalled in a couple ro16's and fled to Europe with his tail between his legs. True story. I think he was talking about "I dont care about colossus or storm I will play my style and be in your face all the time until one of us dies". And that is manly. I don't build ghosts in TvP because I am just that manly, plus you have to micro ghosts which is stupid. Well he explained it by saying that teching to ghosts puts him on the defensive which is true. Protoss will have storm out faster than terran can have ghosts because you need a healthy medivac count first. With his style he can pressure protoss all the time. If San hadn't adapted with phoenixes to stop drops, ForGG would win much easier I feel. That's why that series was pretty cool. ForGG very aggressive, and San adapting and showing some pretty cool decisions. San's one of the smartest Protoss players out there IMO, always cool to see what he comes up with. Even during the time where San wasn't relevant in tournaments (2011-2012?), he got mentioned a ton in interviews as a player who came up with build orders for other players. So I agree, maybe smartest player out there BO creation wise!
Besides sOs of course.
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France7248 Posts
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On February 01 2014 07:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
So Jaedong vs. ForGG
Apoc vs. Dear
Life vs. San/Snute
Stardust vs. Welmu/Patience
Given the starting racial (and skill distribution) having 2 terrans in the ro8 isn't bad at all!
Don't jinx it man, Solar could still win. Gooo Jaedong!
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My bad, the french caster said that JD goes to RO8.
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On February 01 2014 07:18 NovaMB wrote:Isnt Jaedong 2-1 Solar?
it is, watching all the games
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On February 01 2014 07:17 ArTiFaKs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 07:16 DJHelium wrote:On February 01 2014 07:14 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 01 2014 07:11 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On February 01 2014 07:05 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 07:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I'm starting to really consider elevating forGG to the same level of manliness as Polt. No. Polt won a GSL tournament in Korea then left Korea to get an education. ForGG said, "lel GSL is easy I can win the first one after I switch to SC2" then stalled in a couple ro16's and fled to Europe with his tail between his legs. True story. I think he was talking about "I dont care about colossus or storm I will play my style and be in your face all the time until one of us dies". And that is manly. I don't build ghosts in TvP because I am just that manly, plus you have to micro ghosts which is stupid. Well he explained it by saying that teching to ghosts puts him on the defensive which is true. Protoss will have storm out faster than terran can have ghosts because you need a healthy medivac count first. With his style he can pressure protoss all the time. If San hadn't adapted with phoenixes to stop drops, ForGG would win much easier I feel. That's why that series was pretty cool. ForGG very aggressive, and San adapting and showing some pretty cool decisions. San's one of the smartest Protoss players out there IMO, always cool to see what he comes up with. Even during the time where San wasn't relevant in tournaments (2011-2012?), he got mentioned a ton in interviews as a player who came up with build orders for other players. So I agree, maybe smartest player out there BO creation wise! Besides sOs of course.
Blizzcon casting jokes aside, sOs was the player with the best builds in the beginning of HotS.
And I'm not sure if you're joking or not :p
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United States23455 Posts
Jaedong 2-1 Solar they're playing on MoriCup right now
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Northern Ireland26282 Posts
I don't think sOs has as many mapped out builds that are as good as San's, he has better in-game ability to just pull something improvisational off. Elfi has much the same talent :p
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Welmu with lots of colo>Patience :D
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France7248 Posts
On February 01 2014 07:15 Aeromi wrote:ForGG vs Jaedong in RO8.
don't do that if the match ain't over >_<
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