EPTOn January 30 2014 14:37 CxWiLL wrote:
a 0:3 day for Koreans in WCS NA???
a 0:3 day for Koreans in WCS NA???
China/Tw/SEA hold NA
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:37 Vindicare605 wrote: Maybe you aren't but as the guy above me is evidence of, there are definitely people who are. I didn't realize your opinion was undeniably correct and we should all bend to it like peons. My apologies, master. | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:37 fezvez wrote: Seems like PiG had a lapse when he lost all those swarm hosts. Crank should have never "come back" (if you can call being 80 supply behind a comeback) He had 5k/3k in the bank and wasn't producing much. I am assuming it was because of lack of injects since he was microing his army one by one | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:37 Vindicare605 wrote: Maybe you aren't but as the guy above me is evidence of, there are definitely people who are. Of course there are. Expecting there to be 0 people cheering for foreigners because they're foreigners in a Korean dominated scene is ridiculously naive. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:34 Mozdk wrote: Inf terrans are bad. See what you do is... leave! And IT cost energy. | ||
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Waise
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On January 30 2014 14:28 Ace Frehley wrote: I dont know why some zergs still insist on roach/hydra, when this is the way to go (even though boring) because good protoss don't always just let you turtle up to swarm hosts? if protoss puts on pressure or aggression before swarm host critical mass, roach/hydra+eventually vipers are your army. what else would we build? yes, roach/hydra is terribad against colossus and templar, that's one of the biggest problems facing zerg players in zvp - how to trade out crappy roach/hydra armies efficiently and survive until the lategame | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:40 LimitSEA wrote: Of course there are. Expecting there to be 0 people cheering for foreigners because they're foreigners in a Korean dominated scene is ridiculously naive. Or maybe some people actually think PiG is playing well, even better than CranK | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26096 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:39 lichter wrote: He had 5k/3k in the bank and wasn't producing much. I am assuming it was because of lack of injects since he was microing his army one by one As you go later and later into the game in ZvP, army control becomes the single biggest priority in the game.An in some ways thats true for ZvT as well. It's better to be focsing nearly 90% of your attention on micro, 5% on injects and 5% on denying harrassment. As for just sitting there on bank, he could also do that Symbol thing where they just try to calculate what exactly they need to hard counter the composition. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:40 lichter wrote: Or maybe some people actually think PiG is playing well, even better than CranK Don't be ridiculous that can't possibly be true. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:40 lichter wrote: Or maybe some people actually think PiG is playing well, even better than CranK I agree completely. Not saying PiG isn't playing well, but Vindicare seems to be speaking only of people cheering due to foreigner bias. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:40 LimitSEA wrote: Of course there are. Expecting there to be 0 people cheering for foreigners because they're foreigners in a Korean dominated scene is ridiculously naive. I'm not naive I know there are people doing it, it makes me disappointed all the same. Cheering and encouraging this kind of crap is how we got 6 months of Infestor/Broodlord in Wings of Liberty. The same will happen again if we continue to support results that are based around obviously flawed game design. I wasn't happy when Terrans were winning abusing the 1-1-1, I wasn't happy when Terrans were abusing mass Snipe in the late game even when it was MVP that was doing it. This to me is no different. How you win matters. | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:36 lichter wrote: Although I very much dislike defensive swarm host play, I've actually enjoyed these games because of how well PiG has played for the most part, better than some good Korean Zergs even i see your point, but in a way it's even more frustrating because it suggests the skill ceiling on such an already effective and abusive style could keep rising when it doesn't need to | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:41 LimitSEA wrote: I agree completely. Not saying PiG isn't playing well, but Vindicare seems to be speaking only of people cheering due to foreigner bias. We've got Naniwa at Asus for that! | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
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Waise
3165 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:43 StutteR wrote: I agree that PiG is playing better than Crank. I don't cheer for foreigners just because they are foreigners. I think these games are boring as fuck. Stop putting people in boxes. i think we can all bring it down a level. i've made some posts on how annoying this style is and how i think pig is riding the meta, but i'm not trying to trash him as a player or trash any other posters. i think a couple of people came in here and started kind of instigating/trolling a bit on both sides unnecessarily. this conversation has been had before, none of us are saying anything new, and it's not really worth getting upset about | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 30 2014 14:45 Darkhoarse wrote: Crank for the love of Aiur do a timing or something. Or PiG just kill him. Let's not make this over half an hour. I hope this goes to 5 games of swarm host vs airtoss  | ||
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