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[WCS EU] Challenger Day 1 Season 1 2014 - Page 38

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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 21 2014 20:50 GMT
#741
On January 22 2014 05:48 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 05:46 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, why don't Zerg use Nyduses as reinforcement routes to outlying bases more? It is because the unloading time is too long, the units will clump up and because the manual unloading is too apm intensive? Or just because it never caught on?


Probably just easier to move the units there manually and it isn't that much slower.



Does it screw with positioning at all?
kiss kiss fall in love
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 21 2014 20:51 GMT
#742
Triple CC vs. Roach Bust fuck
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#743
With WCS EU starting, code A and soon code S, and proleague, I almost wish they put these things behind big paywalls. Its to easy to just tune in and watch, my life will fall apart ^^
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44139 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#744
HM playing super greedy... uh oh...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zygno
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria276 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#745
oh i fear for heromarine
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#746
this is over.
fuck.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#747
On January 22 2014 05:46 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, why don't Zerg use Nyduses as reinforcement routes to outlying bases more? It is because the unloading time is too long, the units will clump up and because the manual unloading is too apm intensive? Or just because it never caught on?


Waste of time against Protoss. If Protoss is attacking an outlying base then it's likely they havea pylon nearby so it becomes a waste of time as they can warp in faster before you unload and when they target it down you'v ejust sacrificed a portion of your army to fail a defense.

Against Zerg the problem is most likely economy. To put it in perspective, in a ZvZ, if a player has a 5 drone lead in mid-late game 10 minutes down the line they are up by 1k minerals in bank. Unless you really know what you're doing you're dead.

ZvT is now two matchups:

vs Bio: It's good if you play that defensive hive tech style that Symbol uses, but for everyone else they just do the Scarlett MASS MASS mutas style and in that case the 300 gas is better put into banes/burrow/upgrades or 3 more mutas.

vs Mech: It can be good but banshee shuts it down and is a staple of most mech builds. And you're not reinforcing with large mass units to overwhelm them but slowly seiging them out. Because you're getting SH/infestors/Ultras nydus becomes a detriment. It's okay with aggressive SH styles and Roach/hydra but roach/hydra doesn't scale well unless you're Curious and SH are too expensive to squeeze in a nydus at the current knowledge of the game.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 21 2014 20:54 GMT
#748
Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 21 2014 20:54 GMT
#749
There are some good answers to the Nydus thing and it seems absolutely awful against an army which is more or less on top of the Nydus. All that'll happen is probably that you'll get AoEed to death as you unload. But, given advance warning (with lings/OLs positioned around the map), it might be better to be able to set up a concave in the base rather than attack an army from the flank or back with your army.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#750
Nice to see that the build DongRaeGu did a video guide on for Razer still is viable! He followed up the second roach push with a muta switch and ling-bling play.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#751
On January 22 2014 05:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?

He is getting busted again, no Tanks and hes dead
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 20:56:41
January 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#752
On January 22 2014 05:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?


With 3 CCs he's okay, but no medivac count... needs to dominate the next engagement and start dropping.

Edit - whelp, no dominating the next engagement.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#753
1/1 mass roaches. He doesn't have the marauders for this.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#754
Haha wtf with the casters voice. So unusual :D
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#755
So sad that Heromarine is out already.. i hoped he would do good.
His performance was some bad luck but some really bad fails on his part aswell.
Well hes still young so i guess it was a lot of nervousness by him, hopefully he'll be back next season!

But really nice play from Starbuck aswell, well deserved spot.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#756
Poll: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 4?

Good Game (7)
 
58%

Meh Game (2)
 
17%

Bad Game (2)
 
17%

Excellent Game (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 4?

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


Poll: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 5?

Excellent Game (5)
 
36%

Good Game (5)
 
36%

Meh Game (2)
 
14%

Bad Game (2)
 
14%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 5?

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game

AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#757
On January 22 2014 02:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I got five imaginary ESPORT dolleros on Starbuck


Oh yeah, it's the self quote nipple rub
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#758
Fuck this really sad atm
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#759
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#760
Wow that's shocking
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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