With WCS EU starting, code A and soon code S, and proleague, I almost wish they put these things behind big paywalls. Its to easy to just tune in and watch, my life will fall apart ^^

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45162 Posts

January 21 2014 20:52 GMT

#744

HM playing super greedy... uh oh...

Zygno

Austria276 Posts

January 21 2014 20:52 GMT

#745

oh i fear for heromarine

Leviance

Germany4079 Posts

January 21 2014 20:52 GMT

#746

this is over.
fuck.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

January 21 2014 20:52 GMT

#747

On January 22 2014 05:46 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, why don't Zerg use Nyduses as reinforcement routes to outlying bases more? It is because the unloading time is too long, the units will clump up and because the manual unloading is too apm intensive? Or just because it never caught on?

Waste of time against Protoss. If Protoss is attacking an outlying base then it's likely they havea pylon nearby so it becomes a waste of time as they can warp in faster before you unload and when they target it down you'v ejust sacrificed a portion of your army to fail a defense.

Against Zerg the problem is most likely economy. To put it in perspective, in a ZvZ, if a player has a 5 drone lead in mid-late game 10 minutes down the line they are up by 1k minerals in bank. Unless you really know what you're doing you're dead.

ZvT is now two matchups:

vs Bio: It's good if you play that defensive hive tech style that Symbol uses, but for everyone else they just do the Scarlett MASS MASS mutas style and in that case the 300 gas is better put into banes/burrow/upgrades or 3 more mutas.

vs Mech: It can be good but banshee shuts it down and is a staple of most mech builds. And you're not reinforcing with large mass units to overwhelm them but slowly seiging them out. Because you're getting SH/infestors/Ultras nydus becomes a detriment. It's okay with aggressive SH styles and Roach/hydra but roach/hydra doesn't scale well unless you're Curious and SH are too expensive to squeeze in a nydus at the current knowledge of the game.

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

January 21 2014 20:54 GMT

#748

Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?

Heartland

Sweden24593 Posts

January 21 2014 20:54 GMT

#749

There are some good answers to the Nydus thing and it seems absolutely awful against an army which is more or less on top of the Nydus. All that'll happen is probably that you'll get AoEed to death as you unload. But, given advance warning (with lings/OLs positioned around the map), it might be better to be able to set up a concave in the base rather than attack an army from the flank or back with your army.

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

January 21 2014 20:55 GMT

#750

Nice to see that the build DongRaeGu did a video guide on for Razer still is viable! He followed up the second roach push with a muta switch and ling-bling play.

NovaMB

Germany9534 Posts

January 21 2014 20:55 GMT

#751

On January 22 2014 05:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?

He is getting busted again, no Tanks and hes dead

Larkin

United Kingdom7161 Posts

January 21 2014 20:55 GMT

#752

On January 22 2014 05:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Did HoM scrape that or do you reckon that he's fine?

With 3 CCs he's okay, but no medivac count... needs to dominate the next engagement and start dropping.

Edit - whelp, no dominating the next engagement.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

January 21 2014 20:56 GMT

#753

1/1 mass roaches. He doesn't have the marauders for this.

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

January 21 2014 20:56 GMT

#754

Haha wtf with the casters voice. So unusual :D

BlackCompany

Germany8388 Posts

January 21 2014 20:56 GMT

#755

So sad that Heromarine is out already.. i hoped he would do good.
His performance was some bad luck but some really bad fails on his part aswell.
Well hes still young so i guess it was a lot of nervousness by him, hopefully he'll be back next season!

But really nice play from Starbuck aswell, well deserved spot.

NovaMB

Germany9534 Posts

January 21 2014 20:56 GMT

#756

Poll: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 4?

Good Game (7)

58%

Meh Game (2)

17%

Bad Game (2)

17%

Excellent Game (1)

8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Starbuck vs. HeroMarine Game 4?

(Vote): Excellent Game
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(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game