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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 13:56 GMT
#1461
Reliable tvpers: taeja, maru, the end. Kinda sucks aye?
Michael Probu
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#1462
On January 16 2014 22:54 GumBa wrote:
So basically inno HAS to get through and hopefully fantasy!


fantasy to win this GSL and get the fantasy macro enter in starcraft history
Zest fanboy.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#1463
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 16 2014 13:58 GMT
#1464
On January 16 2014 22:55 ErrantKnight wrote:
I'm happy Yonghwa won this as convincingly as he did, he may very well be #1 underrated toss in korea. I'm also happy Leenock pulled it trough with a 2011 GSL final style (those baneling traps were so sick) but I don't think he will go very far this season. I'm not surprised by BrAvO as he is one of the most underrated terrans in korea along with Dream and perhaps Bbyong (that for some reason, everyone forgets he has been in Code S for a while). I feel bad for Flash especially because he shoudn't have lost that game vs BrAvO on Yeonsu... hope to see him next season though.


underrated? Artosis has been hyping him for years now.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 14:00 GMT
#1465
On January 16 2014 22:57 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.

of course it's not. Just like one scv at the beginning != one marine at 20 min only because of the cost. Nonlinear function and stuff.
Michael Probu
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 16 2014 14:01 GMT
#1466
On January 16 2014 23:00 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:57 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.

of course it's not. Just like one scv at the beginning != one marine at 20 min only because of the cost. Nonlinear function and stuff.


Oh ok. That seemed odd. Wasn't sure if i understood right. Apparently i didn't :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Leke
Profile Joined March 2012
Brazil22 Posts
January 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#1467
Flash..as we never seen before. In the worst phase of his life
I hope he doesn't retire soon.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#1468
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 16 2014 14:03 GMT
#1469
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.


you cant start the template now I think :D
Zest fanboy.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1470
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:05:10
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1471
On January 16 2014 23:03 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.


you can start the template now I think :D


Fixed

On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


Well Flash is a person of challenge. He must be hard for him but i doubt he'll retire.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1472
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.

Needs to be something else than Marine I feel. Atleast the Marine got drugs
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 16 2014 14:06 GMT
#1473
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


If he keeps performing very well in pro league like he did last year I dont think we have to be worried. Or i hope rather...
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 14:06 GMT
#1474
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.

will it make you happy if he retires? What a true esports supporter, props bro!
Michael Probu
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1475
On January 16 2014 23:02 Leke wrote:
Flash..as we never seen before. In the worst phase of his life
I hope he doesn't retire soon.

I hope the contrary. Too sad to see players like Stork or Flash who play a game they don't care about.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1476
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


I dont understand how you could even get bittersweet about it. With all players retiring or leaving teams Flash dropping out would be a very bad thing. Not just Flash, any big name basically.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1477
Flash to retire asap and go to SSL!
Flash returns...
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 16 2014 14:08 GMT
#1478
On January 16 2014 23:06 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.

will it make you happy if he retires? What a true esports supporter, props bro!


Obviously it wouldn't, at least he's one of the KESPA guys I recognise.

plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:14:26
January 16 2014 14:08 GMT
#1479
TvP isn't that bad aside from the ridiculous warp-tech shenanigan. Keen's game 2 in his TvP is evidence.

Scouted an expansion? Oh it's ok, Protoss can cancel and be able to attack with an army very soon due to production that A) Is front-loaded, B) Ignores map distance, or defender's advantage.

In other words, no need for Sad Terran fanclub. We're not weak like that.
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
January 16 2014 14:11 GMT
#1480
I was so scared that Leenock could fall to Code B, happy he made it!
But poor Flash...
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