• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:25
CEST 14:25
KST 21:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War625.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
ChatGPT cheats at StarSkirmish SCAI tournament BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War TL Sidebar missing streams [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6921 users

[Code A] Group C Season 1 2014 - Page 74

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 72 73 74 75 76 77 Next
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 13:56 GMT
#1461
Reliable tvpers: taeja, maru, the end. Kinda sucks aye?
Michael Probu
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#1462
On January 16 2014 22:54 GumBa wrote:
So basically inno HAS to get through and hopefully fantasy!


fantasy to win this GSL and get the fantasy macro enter in starcraft history
Zest fanboy.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#1463
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 16 2014 13:58 GMT
#1464
On January 16 2014 22:55 ErrantKnight wrote:
I'm happy Yonghwa won this as convincingly as he did, he may very well be #1 underrated toss in korea. I'm also happy Leenock pulled it trough with a 2011 GSL final style (those baneling traps were so sick) but I don't think he will go very far this season. I'm not surprised by BrAvO as he is one of the most underrated terrans in korea along with Dream and perhaps Bbyong (that for some reason, everyone forgets he has been in Code S for a while). I feel bad for Flash especially because he shoudn't have lost that game vs BrAvO on Yeonsu... hope to see him next season though.


underrated? Artosis has been hyping him for years now.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 14:00 GMT
#1465
On January 16 2014 22:57 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.

of course it's not. Just like one scv at the beginning != one marine at 20 min only because of the cost. Nonlinear function and stuff.
Michael Probu
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 16 2014 14:01 GMT
#1466
On January 16 2014 23:00 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:57 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:55 Big J wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:40 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hi,

I just read what you guys wrote on the first Flash game. Was it that bad ? How did go the other set ? I just can't find it (too many pages in this thread).

Can someone summerize games ?

I understood this :
Game 1 was : "Flash needs to learn how to deal with DT".
Game 2 was : "Flash was outmacroed hard and forgot that you need armory to get past +1"

Am i correct ?

How did the second set go ?


Sry I dont want to think about those games. g1 DT and every possible tech into deathball. G2 every possible tech and greed into deathball

You should include the failed scv allin from Flash in G2 which kinda reset'ed the armies


aye silly Flash tryed to all in since he had way more army supply and buffed it even more with his scvs. Yonghwa didnt have storm but he won the engagement anyways because he microed beatifully and overcame the odds with sick colossus control!


well, it wasn't just the stalker+colossus micro that saved his colossi while not losing shots with them, it was also the 3-3 vs 1-1 which basically explains the supply difference (700-700 more in upgrades; do the math with 100/25/2, 50/0/1, 100/100/2 units).


Do you mean that the upgrade difference is worth 700 army supply ? If it's what you're saying it's not that big. Never thought of that.

of course it's not. Just like one scv at the beginning != one marine at 20 min only because of the cost. Nonlinear function and stuff.


Oh ok. That seemed odd. Wasn't sure if i understood right. Apparently i didn't :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Leke
Profile Joined March 2012
Brazil22 Posts
January 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#1467
Flash..as we never seen before. In the worst phase of his life
I hope he doesn't retire soon.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#1468
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 16 2014 14:03 GMT
#1469
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.


you cant start the template now I think :D
Zest fanboy.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1470
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:05:10
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1471
On January 16 2014 23:03 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.


you can start the template now I think :D


Fixed

On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


Well Flash is a person of challenge. He must be hard for him but i doubt he'll retire.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#1472
On January 16 2014 23:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 22:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:48 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:35 vthree wrote:
On January 16 2014 22:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Innovation should advance, I am 99% sure of it. Besides him idk who else.. maybe Supernova or Dream/Ryung...


There are a few double Terran groups left so likely some more will get through. Likely to end up with 5-6.


Today was a double terran group as well.. And we still have 10 protoss players waiting. I mean, there will be more than 1 for sure but it is really looking bad so far. Korea and GSL was always a place you could find a lot of terrans, it was never like this.


well more than 1 probably since inno should get out, more than 2 will be complicated. You remember when the P got a fanclub because they were like 5P in code S?


How was it called ? The sad zealot ? Was that it ?


If we get less than 5 terrans, someone should make a sad marine club.
Black tie optional.

Needs to be something else than Marine I feel. Atleast the Marine got drugs
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 16 2014 14:06 GMT
#1473
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


If he keeps performing very well in pro league like he did last year I dont think we have to be worried. Or i hope rather...
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 16 2014 14:06 GMT
#1474
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.

will it make you happy if he retires? What a true esports supporter, props bro!
Michael Probu
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1475
On January 16 2014 23:02 Leke wrote:
Flash..as we never seen before. In the worst phase of his life
I hope he doesn't retire soon.

I hope the contrary. Too sad to see players like Stork or Flash who play a game they don't care about.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1476
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.


I dont understand how you could even get bittersweet about it. With all players retiring or leaving teams Flash dropping out would be a very bad thing. Not just Flash, any big name basically.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
January 16 2014 14:07 GMT
#1477
Flash to retire asap and go to SSL!
Flash returns...
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 16 2014 14:08 GMT
#1478
On January 16 2014 23:06 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:04 SixStrings wrote:
How long do you reckon it is until Flash retires?

It has to be frustrating to go from God status to the brink of relevance in the blink of an eye.

I still remember all those BW elitists clamoring how the IM guys should quake in their boots and how Flash would dominate SC2 easily. It makes it bittersweet to see him fail.

will it make you happy if he retires? What a true esports supporter, props bro!


Obviously it wouldn't, at least he's one of the KESPA guys I recognise.

plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:14:26
January 16 2014 14:08 GMT
#1479
TvP isn't that bad aside from the ridiculous warp-tech shenanigan. Keen's game 2 in his TvP is evidence.

Scouted an expansion? Oh it's ok, Protoss can cancel and be able to attack with an army very soon due to production that A) Is front-loaded, B) Ignores map distance, or defender's advantage.

In other words, no need for Sad Terran fanclub. We're not weak like that.
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
January 16 2014 14:11 GMT
#1480
I was so scared that Leenock could fall to Code B, happy he made it!
But poor Flash...
Jaedong | Life | MKP | PartinG | LosirA | ByuN | TaeJa | TY | TLO | Bomber | HerO | Rotti | Dark | Stephano | Maru | Ragnarok | MC | IdrA | Serral | Creator | Bunny | INnoVation | Liquid | Prime | JinAir
Prev 1 72 73 74 75 76 77 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #150 (SHIN Mod Edition)
herO vs ByuNLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings217
SHIN 155
CranKy Ducklings SOOP49
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 391
ByuN 329
SHIN 155
Railgan 46
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 70853
Calm 11091
Rain 2483
Bisu 1619
FanTaSy 861
soO 557
Stork 526
Shuttle 451
Soma 276
Rush 247
[ Show more ]
Snow 221
firebathero 193
Last 155
Light 106
Mind 86
Pusan 70
Sea.KH 68
ToSsGirL 50
hero 48
Sharp 45
Bale 43
Free 39
Trap 36
Killer 35
Mong 27
Hm[arnc] 26
sorry 26
Aegong 24
zelot 18
yabsab 17
Shine 14
Sacsri 13
HiyA 13
Noble 13
Sexy 11
IntoTheRainbow 10
scan(afreeca) 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8614
Dendi498
Counter-Strike
fl0m1438
x6flipin714
byalli649
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King69
Other Games
gofns30536
singsing2187
B2W.Neo525
Pyrionflax241
ToD145
Trikslyr25
Chillindude9
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV230
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 85
• Gemini_19 14
• Dystopia_ 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• Response 0
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV523
League of Legends
• Jankos3528
• Nemesis535
Counter-Strike
• C_a_k_e 1211
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
2h 36m
BSL Open Qualifier
6h 36m
BSL Open Qualifier
6h 36m
OSC
10h 36m
Replay Cast
10h 36m
OSC
23h 36m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 22h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.