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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 05 2014 11:56 GMT
#1001
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Why do Team Coaches do strange decisions.
Yes Zest isn't stupidly bad, but Maru vs Flash in a TvT (imo at least) would be a 50-50 game where either could win. In Zest vs Maru, you put Maru at like 70% favourite easily.

This is definitely 50-50 game.
And this was the thought process behind it:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:52 Frex wrote:
KT_Rolster´s thought process:

"Guys, we need blink, who can blink the best?"



This is Maru
He will not die to a blink all in
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 05 2014 11:56 GMT
#1002
On January 05 2014 20:56 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:54 hansonslee wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Why do Team Coaches do strange decisions.
Yes Zest isn't stupidly bad, but Maru vs Flash in a TvT (imo at least) would be a 50-50 game where either could win. In Zest vs Maru, you put Maru at like 70% favourite easily.


Not really, Maru was definitely the better player when they played in the last season's GSL.

>definitely better player
>barely winning 2-1...


That third game kind of made me feel he was a better player.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1003
On January 05 2014 20:56 Paljas wrote:
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On January 05 2014 20:54 Zealously wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ctesias wrote:
Even when KT wins with 2 terrans and loses with 2 protoss, they still think it's a good idea to send a protoss on Yeonsu.

Protoss has too high a reputation in Proleague, that's for sure.


But did you know that Protoss has a 0% winrate today?

could you please provide a picture to show this fact?
i dont quite understand it.


Zealously i'm backing you up with a picture

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#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1004
On January 05 2014 20:54 esdf wrote:
when's the last time flash didn't play an ace match? :D 08?

Stats won an acematch vs JD last season iirc
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1005
On January 05 2014 20:55 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:54 Zealously wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ctesias wrote:
Even when KT wins with 2 terrans and loses with 2 protoss, they still think it's a good idea to send a protoss on Yeonsu.

Protoss has too high a reputation in Proleague, that's for sure.


But did you know that Protoss has a 0% winrate today?

That's what I'm saying.


I take it you weren't here last week
AdministratorBreak the chains
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1006
On January 05 2014 20:56 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:54 Zealously wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ctesias wrote:
Even when KT wins with 2 terrans and loses with 2 protoss, they still think it's a good idea to send a protoss on Yeonsu.

Protoss has too high a reputation in Proleague, that's for sure.


But did you know that Protoss has a 0% winrate today?

could you please provide a picture to show this fact?
i dont quite understand it.

Look how happy he looks!
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scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1007
On January 05 2014 20:56 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:52 hansonslee wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:51 sharkie wrote:
Flash is not KT's ace anymore.


Flash's TvT is not that good if you look at last year's games.


I thought he always went 2-1 and 3-2 in close games in TvT

Well, he didn't win a match vs T since September 14th (granted, that doesn't say that much, since he didn't play too many games in the latter part of 2013).


"He didn't win a match in TvT since the last time he played TvT"
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1008
On January 05 2014 20:56 Musicus wrote:
Anyway, I traded Byul for Zest, so I'm happy. Let's see that value!


Why would you trade Byul he's like IM's ace
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#1009
It would be so ironic and sad if Zest goes for a blink all-in, and Maru copies TY and holds it easily. Being a KT fan, that would make me sad.

On the other hand, my terran heart would love it.
Flash | Mvp
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1010
These SpoTV commercials are hilarious.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1011
Also don't forget, today is the day of the Terran, Maru clearly going to make it 5-0 for T xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1012
On January 05 2014 20:57 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:56 Musicus wrote:
Anyway, I traded Byul for Zest, so I'm happy. Let's see that value!


Why would you trade Byul he's like IM's ace


But IM had their weakest opponents, and now it will only get harder for them.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 11:58:59
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1013
On January 05 2014 20:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:55 Ctesias wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:54 Zealously wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ctesias wrote:
Even when KT wins with 2 terrans and loses with 2 protoss, they still think it's a good idea to send a protoss on Yeonsu.

Protoss has too high a reputation in Proleague, that's for sure.


But did you know that Protoss has a 0% winrate today?

That's what I'm saying.


I take it you weren't here last week

Hey. I asked if you were Dinotramp a few pages ago.
Flash | Mvp
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1014
On January 05 2014 20:57 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:56 ACrow wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:52 hansonslee wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:51 sharkie wrote:
Flash is not KT's ace anymore.


Flash's TvT is not that good if you look at last year's games.


I thought he always went 2-1 and 3-2 in close games in TvT

Well, he didn't win a match vs T since September 14th (granted, that doesn't say that much, since he didn't play too many games in the latter part of 2013).


"He didn't win a match in TvT since the last time he played TvT"

Except that he lost against Bunny and Maru....?
Get off my lawn, young punks
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2014 11:58 GMT
#1015
On January 05 2014 20:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:56 Ammanas wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:54 hansonslee wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Why do Team Coaches do strange decisions.
Yes Zest isn't stupidly bad, but Maru vs Flash in a TvT (imo at least) would be a 50-50 game where either could win. In Zest vs Maru, you put Maru at like 70% favourite easily.


Not really, Maru was definitely the better player when they played in the last season's GSL.

>definitely better player
>barely winning 2-1...


That third game kind of made me feel he was a better player.


A reaper cheese...?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#1016
On January 05 2014 20:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:15 Aeromi wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:11 stuchiu wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:10 GTR wrote:
third couple they've shown tonight?


4th if we count Zealousy.


We had two couples in the TL+ thread too

Hey, she's not my girlfriend.


Yet

I hope you are right.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#1017
I think zest will play greedy this game thinking maru will blindly waste resources in blink defense. But Maru is an aggressive little kid and zest will be in for a surprise
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#1018
Zest deathstare engaged.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#1019
I guarantee Carriers in this game
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 12:00:33
January 05 2014 12:00 GMT
#1020
On January 05 2014 20:57 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 20:56 Paljas wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:54 Zealously wrote:
On January 05 2014 20:53 Ctesias wrote:
Even when KT wins with 2 terrans and loses with 2 protoss, they still think it's a good idea to send a protoss on Yeonsu.

Protoss has too high a reputation in Proleague, that's for sure.


But did you know that Protoss has a 0% winrate today?

could you please provide a picture to show this fact?
i dont quite understand it.


Zealously i'm backing you up with a picture

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


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