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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 29 2013 12:24 GMT
#621
On December 29 2013 21:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 21:21 Paljas wrote:
On December 29 2013 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What happened this game: Kal went 1 gate stargate, HerO would have gone sentry expand if it had been cross positions. When he scouted close positions he put up a stargate but Kal's 1 gate stargate was faster of course. The phoenix sniping the mothership core is game over. Kal's earlier stargate means he'll always have the phoenix lead. That's why HerO went Twilight Council immediately. There's no way for him to scout whether Kal is doing a 3gate phoenix all in or a phoenix -> robo expand.

In other words, his build and plan got completely fucked up by the mothership core being sniped

the msc scout was terrible anyway, cause it didnt scout anything


That doesn't make it a terrible move?

Phoenix first off a 1gate stargate is a gigantic coinflip that nobody ever does because it dies to anything that even slightly resembles pressure. Had it been literally anything else the core scout would have been a very useful one.


Sounds like he was duckdeok'd
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#622
Prime hwaiting ~~~~
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#623
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?
Glorious SEA doto
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#624
I need you to lose, Creator, but you are a pretty cool guy.
ShakkaFL
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway647 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#625
On December 29 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?

Outplayed him is the right word
Terran 24/7
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#626
On December 29 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?


do I need to link hero's pvp winrate in the past few months?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#627
On December 29 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?


Apparently so
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#628
On December 29 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?


Bonjourno
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#629
On December 29 2013 21:24 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 21:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 21:21 Paljas wrote:
On December 29 2013 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What happened this game: Kal went 1 gate stargate, HerO would have gone sentry expand if it had been cross positions. When he scouted close positions he put up a stargate but Kal's 1 gate stargate was faster of course. The phoenix sniping the mothership core is game over. Kal's earlier stargate means he'll always have the phoenix lead. That's why HerO went Twilight Council immediately. There's no way for him to scout whether Kal is doing a 3gate phoenix all in or a phoenix -> robo expand.

In other words, his build and plan got completely fucked up by the mothership core being sniped

the msc scout was terrible anyway, cause it didnt scout anything


That doesn't make it a terrible move?

Phoenix first off a 1gate stargate is a gigantic coinflip that nobody ever does because it dies to anything that even slightly resembles pressure. Had it been literally anything else the core scout would have been a very useful one.


Sounds like he was duckdeok'd


Basically, yeah. It was a smart gamble by Kal that paid off immensely. HerO really isn't to blame for that one
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#630
On December 29 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
I just woke up, how did kal beat hero. Is he the next dear?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439392&currentpage=30#589
Read Oli's summary
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#631
On December 29 2013 21:25 ZenithM wrote:
I need you to lose, Creator, but you are a pretty cool guy.

how can a prime fan root against creator T_T
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#632
OMG CANNON RUSH 0.O
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#633
On December 29 2013 21:23 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 21:21 Paljas wrote:
On December 29 2013 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What happened this game: Kal went 1 gate stargate, HerO would have gone sentry expand if it had been cross positions. When he scouted close positions he put up a stargate but Kal's 1 gate stargate was faster of course. The phoenix sniping the mothership core is game over. Kal's earlier stargate means he'll always have the phoenix lead. That's why HerO went Twilight Council immediately. There's no way for him to scout whether Kal is doing a 3gate phoenix all in or a phoenix -> robo expand.

In other words, his build and plan got completely fucked up by the mothership core being sniped

the msc scout was terrible anyway, cause it didnt scout anything

whut??? it told him that it was stargate+ phoenixes can't expect much more to see can you?

he scouted it by letting it get killed, he didnt actually see the stargate.
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#634
Woooow O-o
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#635
CREATOR YOU"VE BETRAYED EVERYTHING YOU STOOD FOR. Excellent.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#636
Fuck yeah! Everyone eats!
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#637
CREATOR YOU CREACREA
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#638
Dat cannonrush xD
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#639
Sick blind counter by Yongwha, gg
hundred thousand krouner
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#640
I WOULD LIKE A BIG SLICE OF CHEESE
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