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On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least.
getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...?
//edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time.
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Polt, Violet, Thorzain have all won big tournaments, there are probably others
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this cup is truly a success, always enjoyed it
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On December 22 2013 23:58 Makro wrote:
this cup is truly a success, always enjoyed it
Yeah, it's way better than the previous one (which was cool but not as much as this one). Too bad it was overshadowed by NaNiwa-Scarlett yesterday.
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On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time.
Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point.
I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore.
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On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore.
That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best.
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On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore.
Because only Kor wins now, and Korea was less imba in WC3 than in BW. So it's normal.
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On December 23 2013 00:03 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore. That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best.
WC3 was popular in China because it easier to hack the game rather than BW.
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On December 23 2013 00:03 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore. That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best.
Fair enough, I was just asking since someone said Grubby was like a Bisu or Flash in WC3. I was curious why the WC3 guys hadn't translated over with the same level of success.
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On December 23 2013 00:04 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2013 00:03 Doublemint wrote:On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore. That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best. WC3 was popular in China because it easier to hack the game rather than BW.
agreed, it still is the only "real" scene regarding wc3 
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On December 23 2013 00:05 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2013 00:03 Doublemint wrote:On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore. That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best. Fair enough, I was just asking since someone said Grubby was like a Bisu or Flash in WC3. I was curious why the WC3 guys hadn't translated over with the same level of success.
no problem I am here to clarify things obviously:p
//edit: and that's not entirely accurate. Grubby was the foreigner flash/bisu. Moon/Lyn/Lucifer were kind of what Bisu/Flash were for BW
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Llewellys looks like he just opened the christmas present that was on the top of his list. 
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Just switched to nathanias' stream, let's see if he knows his wc3 as well as he knows sc2 ^_^
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So how were Jaedong's games vs. Curious?
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Also watch on grubby's stream for correct aspect ratio and first person view!
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On December 23 2013 00:03 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2013 00:00 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:56 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:53 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:50 Doublemint wrote:On December 22 2013 23:49 Squat wrote:On December 22 2013 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:On December 22 2013 23:46 Squat wrote:
Other than Stephano and Naniwa, is there any ex WC3 player who really became a championship caliber player in SC2? Lots, such as Polt Polt and anyone else? I mean champion level player as in WCS/blizzcon/GSL champion player. Grubby? Moon?Lyn? The latter two at least for a little while. But neither of those were winning GSLs or taking stacked tournaments. Is there anyone who came over and became like a Dear or sOs or Innovation? I don't really see many of the WC3 guys doing much in HotS anymore at least. getting second at IEMs or MLGs and doing well in early GSLs now is not "championworthy" material...? //edit: by that definition you could even say naniwa is not champion material. what has he won recently? only second places! and the average foreigner should stop playing the game since it's a waste of time. Well, championship material would imply winning those tournaments at some point. I am not talking about foreigners, korean ex WC3 players are fine too. I just don't see anyone except ex BW players winning much of anything anymore. That's because wc3 wasn't big in korea - bw was/still kind of is. And koreans are THE best.
Well it was pretty big until the MBC map shenanigans
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On December 23 2013 00:11 sparklyresidue wrote:
So how were Jaedong's games vs. Curious?
A destruction
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hehe stephano's water element got purged :D
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EPT
