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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
December 07 2013 18:34 GMT
#1721
I've been streaming Twitch through VLC since about 2 months ago with no problems and lately it's been lagging on that too. Even with the Chrome Extension it's dreadful. I just don't know what to do as my internet is more than capable of streaming multiple HD streams.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:35:23
December 07 2013 18:34 GMT
#1722
On December 08 2013 03:34 Dinotramp wrote:
I've been streaming Twitch through VLC since about 2 months ago with no problems and lately it's been lagging on that too. Even with the Chrome Extension it's dreadful. I just don't know what to do as my internet is more than capable of streaming multiple HD streams.

Try the french stream : http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Millenium
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1723
On December 08 2013 03:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...


Jeez. He won.


Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.


Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.


I wish it weren't true, but they're not even attempting to hide it >.>

i just realized how true this is xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1724
On December 08 2013 03:34 Dinotramp wrote:
I've been streaming Twitch through VLC since about 2 months ago with no problems and lately it's been lagging on that too. Even with the Chrome Extension it's dreadful. I just don't know what to do as my internet is more than capable of streaming multiple HD streams.

Did you try the Dailymotion streams?
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1725
On December 08 2013 03:33 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...

for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.

It doesn't get much better than parked at the top of a ramp against an army comprised mainly of zealot/archon.

highground isnt that big deal against chargelots. he wasnt really parked, san had plenty space to attacking with his zealots.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1726
On December 08 2013 03:31 The_Templar wrote:
RO8: Match 4

(P)San vs (T)INnoVation
1-2


Map: Akilon Wastes


San spawns in the top left
INnoVation spawns in the bottom right

2:00
San starts with a gateway followed by two assimilators.
Innovation going CC first.

3:00
Innovation getting two barracks.
San putting two in each assimilator and getting a cybernetics core.
Innovation building a bunker.

4:00
San expanding.
San pokes at the natural with a bunker.
Stargate for San.
San poking with a mothership core but nothing really happens.

5:00
Two refineries for Innovation.
Innovation scouts with an SCV and sees the expansion but loses the SCV.
Oracle for San.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1727
On December 08 2013 03:34 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...


Jeez. He won.


Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.


Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.


You have ladder experience vs terran? lucky bastard -_-


The free-est of wins.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:36:23
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1728
On December 08 2013 03:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...


Jeez. He won.


Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.


Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.


I wish it weren't true, but they're not even attempting to hide it >.>

Are you illiterate? The person originally quoted claimed that chargelots were "useless" even though with an absolutely horrible position and angle of attack, they still came out looking pretty good in an engagement that forced Bogus to pull SCVs in order to barely win. He was called out for saying something stupid, and this somehow constitutes whining?
Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
December 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#1729
On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...

for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.


He did everything right and was almost broken. San was on 58 probes to like 42 scv's from innovation so the attack did good damage. I feel if dear or parting were in those positions they would have beat Innovation with better micro.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:37:46
December 07 2013 18:36 GMT
#1730
On December 08 2013 03:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:12 vthree wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:05 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:03 Snusmumriken wrote:
the sad part is that san is not behind much


Innovation's natural is done and San is just starting his natural. The difference in economy should show up within a few minutes.


Except he couldnt utilize his natural and was behind on scvs. So no. Its a bullshit build, everyone knows it. Except DK.


He could have made a second missile turret which would have 100% shut down all worker harass by the oracle, and two missile turrets are considerably cheaper than a stargate + oracle, not to mention the two proxy pylons that San needed, and the chrono boosts used.

Don't hate the build; hate the reaction.

San still doing damage with the oracle, because Innovation was trying to skimp on a tiny bit of defense. Bit him in the ass.


1 medivac and 8 marines is cheaper than 4 cannons, so should Protoss be forced to make 4 cannons at each base? Your argument makes no sense. If Protoss made 4 cannons at each base, we wouldn't need nexus cannons, would we?


That's a ridiculous analogy for two reasons.

1. Where you choose to invest your resources in the early game is far more important than the later game (because you have less economy). If the Protoss is investing all his money into a proxy oracle, then you need to act accordingly and not half-ass a defense. If you're looking at an *eventual* medivac drop, you already have a mothership core, stalkers, and ideally a cannon or two. The medivac drop comes much later than a proxy oracle, so you don't have to spend as large a percentage of your money on new defense because you already have some.

2. The proxy oracle was being used to attack a mineral line. It does essentially no damage against buildings. On the other hand, a medivac full of marines is dangerous to not only mineral lines, but buildings as well. This makes mobile defense more important against marines than against oracles. Two turrets by the mineral line is enough to make an oracle useless. Four cannons by a mineral line (which is far more of an investment anyway) is probably not going to defend your whole base.

And even still, with all the whining, Innovation still won ^^


Like the outcome is all that matters... MC is the highest earner in SC2, does that make Protoss the most Op race? Didn't MC win GSL when 1-1-1 was at the height of its powers? Didn't PartinG have 2 big wins during the height of BL/infestor?

4 cannons in base will give you plenty of time to defend even against 2 medivac drops.

So you need 2 cannons per mineral line. What about the rest of the Terran base, oracles can pick off units coming from the raxes. And Oracles have relevation which is equal to if no better than a scan which is 240/270 minerals.

And if you look at pro Protoss, they rarely get a cannon before they take their third...
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 07 2013 18:36 GMT
#1731
On December 08 2013 03:35 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:33 forsooth wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...

for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.

It doesn't get much better than parked at the top of a ramp against an army comprised mainly of zealot/archon.

highground isnt that big deal against chargelots. he wasnt really parked, san had plenty space to attacking with his zealots.

What? Bogus had so many free shots when San moved along the cliff, the Zealots had little surface, the Archons didn't have access to big chunks of bio...
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12893 Posts
December 07 2013 18:37 GMT
#1732
On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...


Jeez. He won.


Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.


Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.

Yea mine too.
It's really annoying because I play random and so all their bm is a bit awkward lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 07 2013 18:38 GMT
#1733
San doing the Yeonsu build again.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 07 2013 18:38 GMT
#1734
GUYS

this is our last tournament in a whiel

can we just have a good time?

PLZ
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1735
Bad decision from San to commit here.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1736
On December 08 2013 03:38 lichter wrote:
GUYS

this is our last tournament in a whiel

can we just have a good time?

PLZ

Dailymotion Cup, Nation Wars ?
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1737
On December 08 2013 03:37 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...


Jeez. He won.


Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.


Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.

Yea mine too.
It's really annoying because I play random and so all their bm is a bit awkward lol


Wtf. He was replying to the guy that said chargelots were bad vs good Terrans.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1738
On December 08 2013 03:38 lichter wrote:
GUYS

this is our last tournament in a whiel

can we just have a good time?

PLZ

ATC finals next weekend
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1739
On December 08 2013 03:36 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:35 75 wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:33 forsooth wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl

San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...

for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.

It doesn't get much better than parked at the top of a ramp against an army comprised mainly of zealot/archon.

highground isnt that big deal against chargelots. he wasnt really parked, san had plenty space to attacking with his zealots.

What? Bogus had so many free shots when San moved along the cliff, the Zealots had little surface, the Archons didn't have access to big chunks of bio...

you need so much time killing chargelot/archon. some free shots wont make that big deal than with other unit compositions.

i thought innovation did a good job at the ramp but splitting his forces didnt help him. that was my feeling.
i might be wrong though
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#1740
On December 08 2013 03:39 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:38 lichter wrote:
GUYS

this is our last tournament in a whiel

can we just have a good time?

PLZ

Dailymotion Cup, Nation Wars ?

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