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On December 08 2013 03:30 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 shid0x wrote:
We don't like ghost club :
President : ForGG
Members : Polt,Innovation (new)
The cult grows ! No Maru here ? 
Maru is the God there
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On December 08 2013 03:30 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 shid0x wrote:
We don't like ghost club :
President : ForGG
Members : Polt,Innovation (new)
The cult grows ! No Maru here ?
Maru is the illuminati.
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On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... Jeez. He won.
Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On December 08 2013 03:30 shid0x wrote:
We don't like ghost club :
President : ForGG
Members : Polt,Innovation (new)
The cult grows !
add Maru
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your Country52797 Posts
San spawns in the top left
INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
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On December 08 2013 03:30 absinthfee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:16 vthree wrote:On December 08 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's at this point in time when I laugh at all the people who were just raging at how imbalanced oracles "obviously" are, and how "obviously" Innovation (and in turn all of the Terran race) is just auto-screwed and can't ever win versus this.
Now it's time to hear the excuse that Innovation only won because San is bad or something. Go ahead. Imagine if that game was a scouted proxy 2 rax, how do you think it would have turned out? I don't care which match up, mirrors even. If you do a proxy build which can win games, but it get scouted early on, the opponent should be able to win with 5 minutes as long as they not make a huge mistake. Otherwise, the risk reward is just not there. What about zvt. Scouted 2 rax is still really potent.
Indeed, but if Zergs defends with no losses, he's ahead, so the whole thing makes sense.
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Grubby is the triple forge mass chronoboost fully upgraded caster
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On December 08 2013 03:31 lamprey1 wrote:
Damn, Khaldor and Grubby are just so good.
it makes it harder to tolerate a lesser casting team.
Definitely some good chemistry there alright. Very good game knowledge between them, too.
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On December 08 2013 03:30 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 shid0x wrote:
We don't like ghost club :
President : ForGG
Members : Polt,Innovation (new)
The cult grows ! No Maru here ?
Bomber had a sick Hellbat play vs HT too.
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On December 08 2013 03:31 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 03:16 vthree wrote:On December 08 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's at this point in time when I laugh at all the people who were just raging at how imbalanced oracles "obviously" are, and how "obviously" Innovation (and in turn all of the Terran race) is just auto-screwed and can't ever win versus this.
Now it's time to hear the excuse that Innovation only won because San is bad or something. Go ahead. Imagine if that game was a scouted proxy 2 rax, how do you think it would have turned out? I don't care which match up, mirrors even. If you do a proxy build which can win games, but it get scouted early on, the opponent should be able to win with 5 minutes as long as they not make a huge mistake. Otherwise, the risk reward is just not there. What about zvt. Scouted 2 rax is still really potent. Indeed, but if Zergs defends with no losses, he's ahead, so the whole thing makes sense.
Same with proxy oracle.
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On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won...
for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.
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On December 08 2013 03:30 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... Jeez. He won. Did you even read the discussion?
Yeah, but you believe that Terran is hopefully behind as both players in TvP get to 7 supply each.
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On December 08 2013 03:32 absinthfee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:31 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:30 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 03:16 vthree wrote:On December 08 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's at this point in time when I laugh at all the people who were just raging at how imbalanced oracles "obviously" are, and how "obviously" Innovation (and in turn all of the Terran race) is just auto-screwed and can't ever win versus this.
Now it's time to hear the excuse that Innovation only won because San is bad or something. Go ahead. Imagine if that game was a scouted proxy 2 rax, how do you think it would have turned out? I don't care which match up, mirrors even. If you do a proxy build which can win games, but it get scouted early on, the opponent should be able to win with 5 minutes as long as they not make a huge mistake. Otherwise, the risk reward is just not there. What about zvt. Scouted 2 rax is still really potent. Indeed, but if Zergs defends with no losses, he's ahead, so the whole thing makes sense. Same with proxy oracle.
No, precisely, as shown in the Polar Night game.
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On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... Jeez. He won. Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win.
Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.
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On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.
Terrans need to start making artificial chokes and wall offs against Chargelot-Archon compositions.
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On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position.
It doesn't get much better than parked at the top of a ramp against an army comprised mainly of zealot/archon.
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On December 08 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... for me innovation wasnt in a perfect position. Terrans need to start making artificial chokes and wall offs against Chargelot-Archon compositions.
and still barely win
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On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... Jeez. He won. Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win. Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.
You have ladder experience vs terran? lucky bastard -_-
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On December 08 2013 03:32 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 08 2013 03:30 Heartland wrote:On December 08 2013 03:29 TheDwf wrote:On December 08 2013 03:28 Extenz wrote:
chargelots are so useless vs good terrans rofl San recklessly charged up the ramp, in a choke, with Bogus having a perfect position AND 20 SCVs pulled, and San still almost won... Jeez. He won. Whining when you lose. Still whining when you win. Gotta say, that matches my ladder experience vs terran pretty well.
I wish it weren't true, but they're not even attempting to hide it >.>
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