On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean
1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.
2)
i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc
Holy shit you are insufferable and the most amusing part about all this is that your English is terrible
lol you give the hero interview as an example where he had to answer in nouns:"what is your favourite footbball player:christiano ronaldo".hahahaahah.and in the stadust interview the twitch interviewer was standing next to him translating.not to mention i remember that interview and everyone says it is barely understandable.get real boy.and this is not even for me.sc2 is losing fans at tournaments simply because the asian players aren't doing jack shit to interact with the fans they owe the tournament to.if viewership continues to drop tournaments continue to drop sc2.the fact that they do not do anything for the scene proves they give 0 shits.which is the reason wcs na had like 10k viewers until the finals.i am not asking them the impossible.just that they communitcate a bit more so that the sc2 scene gets popularity.but th eonly people who care about the sc2 scene seem to be the foreigners.
can we not have this in the live report thread? Make a thread about this please if you want to have a discussion about this.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean
1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.
i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc
Holy shit you are insufferable and the most amusing part about all this is that your English is terrible
lol you give the hero interview as an example where he had to answer in nouns:"what is your favourite footbball player:christiano ronaldo".hahahaahah.and in the stadust interview the twitch interviewer was standing next to him translating.not to mention i remember that interview and everyone says it is barely understandable.get real boy.and this is not even for me.sc2 is losing fans at tournaments simply because the asian players aren't doing jack shit to interact with the fans they owe the tournament to.if viewership continues to drop tournaments continue to drop sc2.the fact that they do not do anything for the scene proves they give 0 shits.which is the reason wcs na had like 10k viewers until the finals.i am not asking them the impossible.just that they communitcate a bit more so that the sc2 scene gets popularity.but th eonly people who care about the sc2 scene seem to be the foreigners.
can we not have this in the live report thread? Make a thread about this please if you want to have a discussion about this.
I agree. It's souring up the live report when we should be focusing on relevant reasons to post angry comments about this tournament!
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean
1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.
i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc
Holy shit you are insufferable and the most amusing part about all this is that your English is terrible
lol you give the hero interview as an example where he had to answer in nouns:"what is your favourite footbball player:christiano ronaldo".hahahaahah.and in the stadust interview the twitch interviewer was standing next to him translating.not to mention i remember that interview and everyone says it is barely understandable.get real boy.and this is not even for me.sc2 is losing fans at tournaments simply because the asian players aren't doing jack shit to interact with the fans they owe the tournament to.if viewership continues to drop tournaments continue to drop sc2.the fact that they do not do anything for the scene proves they give 0 shits.which is the reason wcs na had like 10k viewers until the finals.i am not asking them the impossible.just that they communitcate a bit more so that the sc2 scene gets popularity.but th eonly people who care about the sc2 scene seem to be the foreigners.
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