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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2761
On November 29 2013 06:27 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:22 bourne117 wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:18 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:16 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:13 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:11 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Taeja has been one of the best players in the world for years. Life is amazing but for me he needs another year to be one of the greats imo


I may be missing something, but I think Life has won as many premier tournaments (and arguably harder ones at that) as Taeja, and their careers started out roughly the same way at roughly the same time. What makes you feel that Life needs to prove himself further while Taeja doesn't?

You are wrong, TaeJa won more premiers, but you could argue the quality of the tournaments if you want.


I don't think we actually need to argue the quality of said tournaments.

But anyway:
GSL, MLG, Blizzard Cup, ISQ, MLG, IEM, DHW

I count seven!

+ Show Spoiler +
Before someone tries to hang me, yes I am aware that Taeja has 7 gold medals and Life only 6

Hahah, no there's not really any argument about who had harder tournaments, but that doesn't stop people. :D

I can think of arguments to take into account.
1. IPL TAC 3 isn't listed but is an extremely impressive result. He single handily got Liquid to the finals and almost double all killed IM to win the whole thing. Plus he went 23-3 against ONLY esf teams. Can't get better competition than that.
2. Taeja was fighting against arguably the most broken period in SC2 so far. Life was playing with that in his favor.
3. Taeja was more consistent in the GSL by far. Life never even made the ro8 again iirc. Taeja made ro8 4 times and ro4 twice again when almost no terrans could do that.


I'll compile a list of players both have beaten for fair comparison, please hang on

Just to clarify I am not trying to take anything away from Life. He is the only Zerg player I would ever root for and I think he is one of the best players in SC2 period. I just think to look at the names of the tournaments and say that Life is easily better is a very black and white statement when there is a lot more to look at.


I actually think the most broken era of SC2 was the very early WoL days. Luckily everyone was bad back then so no one blinked an eye when MKP lost a 2 rax proxy on close positions metalopolis.
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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2762
ForGG has to 2-0ed Taeja now if he wants to go through.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2763
lol sOs getting wrecked but falls back on mass templar even though no right to win the game, epic!
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2764
On November 29 2013 06:29 Enki wrote:
Dat Day9 keycap on Jaedongs keyboard, lol.


But it's where the 4 should be.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2765
sigh...
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2766
On November 29 2013 06:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:28 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG T_T


What happened? Last time I checked the stream he was 50 supply ahead and was killing sOs 4th base..


He did one bad fight, army evaporated.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2767
On November 29 2013 06:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:28 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG T_T


What happened? Last time I checked the stream he was 50 supply ahead and was killing sOs 4th base..


Vikings weren't in the fight, six storms landed, everything died, gg
Firlefanz
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany245 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2768
28 minutes... Three base protoss... Looks exactly like one of my games :D
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 28 2013 21:29 GMT
#2769
Both lost one game to Leenock and now they are 1-1! Goooo JD :D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#2770
So if TaeJa > ForGG and Innovation > sOs we have Innovation in the upper bracket after all
20cts
Profile Joined March 2012
France175 Posts
November 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#2771
On November 29 2013 06:28 TimENT wrote:
Hahahahaha TvP

hahahahaha

No vikings no ghosts, what did you expect ?
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#2772
On November 29 2013 06:29 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:28 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG T_T


What happened? Last time I checked the stream he was 50 supply ahead and was killing sOs 4th base..


Vikings weren't in the fight, six storms landed, everything died, gg


Good thing I skipped that game.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#2773
On November 29 2013 06:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:28 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG T_T


What happened? Last time I checked the stream he was 50 supply ahead and was killing sOs 4th base..

Storms.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 28 2013 21:31 GMT
#2774
On November 29 2013 06:22 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:18 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:16 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:13 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:11 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Taeja has been one of the best players in the world for years. Life is amazing but for me he needs another year to be one of the greats imo


I may be missing something, but I think Life has won as many premier tournaments (and arguably harder ones at that) as Taeja, and their careers started out roughly the same way at roughly the same time. What makes you feel that Life needs to prove himself further while Taeja doesn't?

You are wrong, TaeJa won more premiers, but you could argue the quality of the tournaments if you want.


I don't think we actually need to argue the quality of said tournaments.

But anyway:
GSL, MLG, Blizzard Cup, ISQ, MLG, IEM, DHW

I count seven!

+ Show Spoiler +
Before someone tries to hang me, yes I am aware that Taeja has 7 gold medals and Life only 6

Hahah, no there's not really any argument about who had harder tournaments, but that doesn't stop people. :D

I can think of arguments to take into account.
1. IPL TAC 3 isn't listed but is an extremely impressive result. He single handily got Liquid to the finals and almost double all killed IM to win the whole thing. Plus he went 23-3 against ONLY esf teams. Can't get better competition than that.
2. Taeja was fighting against arguably the most broken period in SC2 so far. Life was playing with that in his favor.
3. Taeja was more consistent in the GSL by far. Life never even made the ro8 again iirc. Taeja made ro8 4 times and ro4 twice again when almost no terrans could do that.

To me they are equal in skill and in achievements, haha. Sure Life won head to head during a specific period of time (Although TaeJa wins overall head to head between them and won before and after the famous losses to Life). But the tournaments they won, Life did win harder and more prestigious ones.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 28 2013 21:31 GMT
#2775
Jaedong's keyboard has the Day[9] key-cap.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
riceant
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada54 Posts
November 28 2013 21:31 GMT
#2776
ForGG vs sOs game 2 proves everything that is wrong with protoss...
ForGG up 5-3 bases, up 50 supply, ForGG looks away for 2 seconds BOOM storm storm 200 supply -> 80 supply
GG EZPZ
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -Albert Einstein
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 28 2013 21:31 GMT
#2777
On November 29 2013 06:29 Swiipii wrote:
ForGG has to 2-0ed Taeja now if he wants to go through.

Or just win if INnoVation beats sOs.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 28 2013 21:32 GMT
#2778
The idea of this build is to force units with stalkers, establish a pylon outside, keep creep contained and force queens to the front to let the oracle do its damage. Super smart build.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
November 28 2013 21:32 GMT
#2779
Stupid how you have a strong advantage through the whole game and lose it that quickly.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
November 28 2013 21:32 GMT
#2780
On November 29 2013 06:31 riceant wrote:
ForGG vs sOs game 2 proves everything that is wrong with protoss...
ForGG up 5-3 bases, up 50 supply, ForGG looks away for 2 seconds BOOM storm storm 200 supply -> 80 supply
GG EZPZ


yeah it gets really Dirty
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
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