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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 16 2013 17:28 GMT
#901
On November 17 2013 02:27 Squat wrote:
What the hell, I come back an ToD is one game away from winning his group? Please explain.

He's playing well outside of blowing the last game
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 17:28 GMT
#902
On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


Sometimes people do stupid things in pressured situations. Surely this isn't news to you? I doubt it would happen to him in practise.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 16 2013 17:28 GMT
#903
On November 17 2013 02:27 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 DJHelium wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 BlackCompany wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 Vorenius wrote:
I'm not sure which is more stupid.

Happy refusing to leave a lost game.
or
Tod deciding to draw a won game.


Tod couldnt win anymore


10 halluc void rays wins that game.


Huk Norris style? Only works against the preemptive IdrA timing.


It's a probability thing. Theoretically the same could happen, but Happy has no detection and has to correctly guess which Ray is real...twice. If he wastes shots on fake Voids, he loses.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#904
these games make HSC what it is. Simply brilliant
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#905
On November 17 2013 02:27 Makro wrote:
is this possible to go full foreigner against an other foreigner ?


We'll, Koreans can go full foreigner vs other Koreans. So I guess same would apply.
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#906
If Tod loses this series and ends up losing the group now, I bet that's going to feel so terrible. He was almost assured to win that game, that was literally the only way he could have not won it.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#907
On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


Lol I dont get you guys. Its great entertainment and everything you do is complain about sth and insult players.
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#908
I love how people are mad at Happy for not losing. ToD is supposed to win himself, Happy in NO WAY should give it to him. ToD failed to win due to his own critical mistakes. He basically lost himself the win.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#909
On November 17 2013 02:27 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 DJHelium wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 BlackCompany wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 Vorenius wrote:
I'm not sure which is more stupid.

Happy refusing to leave a lost game.
or
Tod deciding to draw a won game.


Tod couldnt win anymore


10 halluc void rays wins that game.


Not when the VRs are dead


Hm at least it's possible I think. Happy was stuck in a corner, could just swarm him from all angles and Happy can't kite. Not 100% sure ofc.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#910
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things

He was in no rush at all. He could have waited for like 15 minutes, weighed all his options, waited for Sentries to get full energy, and then attacked, after forming a plan. Not just amove with 2 voidrays.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#911
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.
AdministratorBreak the chains
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:31:40
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#912
On November 17 2013 02:27 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:25 BlackCompany wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 Vorenius wrote:
I'm not sure which is more stupid.

Happy refusing to leave a lost game.
or
Tod deciding to draw a won game.


Tod couldnt win anymore

Yeah he couldn't win because he threw his VRs away, was shooting a biulding, and not using charge.

I'll forgive him for not using hallucination, but he still played it worse than I thought was possible.


I am sure he didn't know about the Vikings and was busy with the raks ... when he realized there were Vikings it was to late. But he kept them sooo save had hallus and everything. Would not have dared to send the Voids there first.
So yeah Happy took his one chance and ToD fell in the trap. I am surprised Happy won a situation like this for once.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#913
Ah, that early game really went perfect for Happy, not even the slightest early aggression from ToD incoming (like a stalker, zealot and msc poke).
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#914
On November 17 2013 02:29 Applesmack wrote:
I love how people are mad at Happy for not losing. ToD is supposed to win himself, Happy in NO WAY should give it to him. ToD failed to win due to his own critical mistakes. He basically lost himself the win.

People are mad at ToD for not winning actually :D
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Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#915
Happy has the weirdest base race games. Tbf to him, he's had a lot of tough losses in them, bout time he won something!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#916
On November 17 2013 02:28 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:27 Squat wrote:
What the hell, I come back an ToD is one game away from winning his group? Please explain.

He's playing well outside of blowing the last game

Indeed, and screwing up my predictions in the process.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#917
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Well said.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
November 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#918
On November 17 2013 02:28 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:27 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:26 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 Undead1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Makro wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 DJHelium wrote:
Stefan Andersson ‏@prOpMorroWBB2 16s
he can hallucinate 10 voidrays and its impossibel for the vikings


Morrow confirmed better P than Tod


hard to think of this considering the situation

ye not even the casters thought about it, me neither honestly


but at least you charge them and simply a move, would´ve won this

3 Vikings with hit & run would have won.


they have the same speed and it´s taking vikings time to turn around and fire. So they allways get dmg and it´s a lot of dmg when VRs use charge.

Nope, Vikings have 2.75, Voids 2.25.


This whole discussion is useless considering that 2 vikings in a corner of the map can't kite anywhere.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#919
Why are people mad at Happy? What did you want him to do? Give up? He played for the best result possible. What else can you ask for?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#920
On November 17 2013 02:28 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:27 StarStruck wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:26 DJHelium wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 BlackCompany wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:25 Vorenius wrote:
I'm not sure which is more stupid.

Happy refusing to leave a lost game.
or
Tod deciding to draw a won game.


Tod couldnt win anymore


10 halluc void rays wins that game.


Huk Norris style? Only works against the preemptive IdrA timing.


It's a probability thing. Theoretically the same could happen, but Happy has no detection and has to correctly guess which Ray is real...twice. If he wastes shots on fake Voids, he loses.


Well aware of the unlosable scenario. -.^
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