EPT[HSC VIII] Day 3 - Page 48
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:31 Shellshock wrote: Why are people mad at Happy? What did you want him to do? Give up? He played for the best result possible. What else can you ask for? Probably the same people being mad at Hyun yesterday. This is the way, the game mechanics work, if ToD plays Halluc he probably wins. I find it fair, that Happy won a game, he did´nt deserve to win, after he lost a game, he deserved to win yesterday. | ||
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Applesmack
Canada680 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:33 Zealously wrote: I don't think there's any honor involved in Starcraft at all. Of course there is. For instance, when a game crashes or some technical difficulty occurs you often see players giving their opponent the win if they know they have lost. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:35 TheDwf wrote: Yes, hallucinated Voids would have allowed ToD to win. Coolio. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote: unnnnder pressure. yeah I agree man considering ToD had all time in the world because he was the one who had to initiate the engagement and he knew what Happy had left. When you have all the timing in the world it does look bad. There is always going to be pressure to win no matter the scenario but that was a pretty ugly derp. Exactly. Losing all 3 nexi was really bad, but Tod wasn't controlling the pace then. At the end, he was controlling the pace of the game, and he had sentries. He needed to think instead of bull-rushing in. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Sisaan
Germany76 Posts
Video - happy ties up... and is REALLY happy | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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iSunrise
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote: Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end. I think it was a cascade of awful decisions and plays by ToD. First he managed to lose 3 Nexus in one swing, how the fuck is this possible in that situation? Then he does not kill neither the CCs nor the Starport: ofc the most important structures in a basetrade. He never used charge the whole game. If he used it just in one crucial situation, he would´ve tipped this game to a victory for sure! He allways threw away his phoenixes. 2 Phoenixes would´ve made such situations impossible! It really took a lot of mistakes by ToD together to lose this game and he made sure to hit all of them. And that´s why people shit on him. It´s not that he made a single mistake out of nervousness, he made a shit ton of mistakes in a row to throw a clearly won game! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:35 Applesmack wrote: Of course there is. For instance, when a game crashes or some technical difficulty occurs you often see players giving their opponent the win if they know they have lost. That should not be up to the players at all. It should be the admin's decision. It's extremely cruel to ask the player "Hey, do you want the free win or not?" or "Do you want to award the game to the opponent or not?". Either they lose in-game or they lose in PR. You should never force the player to make the decision. | ||
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Blackfish
Austria309 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:36 miniskirt wrote: could someone be kind enough to tell me what happen in the game that ended in a draw? or point to LR ToD went for a gateway + void ray attack. Happy counter dropped and killed all of ToD's nexuses right after ToD recalled. Happy got 3 vikings out and flew his CC to the corner. ToD didn't have enough minerals to rebuild a nexus. 3 vikings killed ToD's 2 Void Rays forcing a draw because ToD had no way to kill Happy's floating buildings | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:36 Sisaan wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1qrp94/hsc_viii_video_happy_ties_the_series_against_tod/ Video - happy ties up... and is REALLY happy He should be. That was some Slayers Boxer-esque stuff. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote: Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it. There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote: So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote: The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On November 17 2013 02:36 Sisaan wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1qrp94/hsc_viii_video_happy_ties_the_series_against_tod/ Video - happy ties up... and is REALLY happy why dont you simply post the yt link? | ||
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