EPT[WCS] Global Finals 2013 Day 1 - Page 316
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Weavel
Finland9223 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:19 Weavel wrote: Btw why does TL timer say 6 hours 40 mins and timer on official WCS site says 07:25:20? TL is timed to the start of the opening ceremony WCS is to the pre game show | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:15 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote: Thanks opterown for the ridiculous OP and the fan interviews. You've put in way too much effort for this. Thanks for the hype!! BTW, I always say your name as opera-town in my head... don't worry there are like 50 different pronunciations of my name (or so people think) haha | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:14 Calthrash wrote: Naniwa haters unite! Id rather have Alive win than Naniwa, at least he is a korean terran, you can never go wrong with that! BitByBit was a korean terran as well. | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
And he left so glorious a legacy. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
gg gl | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm looking forward to the guy trying to quote me and finding out that LimitSEA =|= DarkLordOlli austrian, australian, big difference | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:09 bourne117 wrote: Oh no you are right. I forgot. MVP was really good in WoL. Of course he is just as good in HotS. Oh waits that? It doesn't work like that? Really you don't say. Oh and I like how you mention his last code S run from over a year ago but don't mention how he then fell completely out of the GSL. You are just coming off as a little dumb now dude. No one is saying MVP isn't an all time great. But to say that because he almost beat Innovation he would have been fine against sOs is stretching. But it's not really stretching. Mvp's home territory is a bo5+, while sOs was obviously new to playing a series like that. Mvp dropped off in season 2 & 3, but he was still playing great in season 1. If it's a random ladder best of 1 at that point then I would definitely give the edge to sOs, but not in a finals. There have only been three players to beat Mvp in a final: Bomber (TvT master who was on fire), MMA (who prepared that series amazingly well) and Life (who is now 18-0 in offline bo5+). I'm not saying Mvp would definitely win, but he would have definitely had a decent shot at winning | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:15 bourne117 wrote: I think you are greatly exaggerating how bad sOs was. Innovation at this point was like a machine. Any mistake you made you would destroy you for it. Plus sOs had just seen Soulkey try and prepare for this monster in the Code S finals. He knew very well how scary he was. Then you have MVP who had been getting slightly weaker and weaker each season. His TvT though was really the only matchup that didnt go away as quickly which is what actually happens most of the time. sOs beating players like Taeja or Bomber is pretty fucking important. Did you not see what they did the very next season. They were basically the two best terrans in season 2 along with Polt and Maru. Put MVP could totally take out sOs because its a bo7 right? Did that help mvp against life? No. At a certain point when you are MVP your wrists start to deteriorate and you start to lose that skill you once had. mvp was able to still play so great for so long because in part he had great decision making and build order choices but at a certain point the better player just wins and bottom line sOs was and is the better player TODAY and during the WCS season 1 like it or not. If they played 1000 games sOs would easily win the majority of them. His TvT wasn't the only match up he was good in, he was also pretty fucking good in TvZ, check his finals vs Stephano. And before you say it, I'm aware that skill in TvZ =/= skill in TvP. And looking at what players did in Season 2 means next to nothing when we're talking about Season 1.What did Innovation do in Season 2 and Season 3? His results got progressively worse, as did pretty much everyone who isn't Soulkey or Polt. And yes. Judging by Mvp's form - ignoring match ups for the moment - sOs' performance in the finals, and Mvp's history with bo7's, I'd say it being a bo7 would make a difference. Just as it did vs Life. Life was so ridiculously better than everyone in ZvT when Mvp lost to him, and somehow Mvp still managed to take it down to the wire, only really losing due to his degrading mechanics and a questionable move out. Ignoring his skill in mind games and build order choice in longer series would be silly when considering a hypothetical match up like this. I won't deny that sOs may take more games in a bo1000, but that's just silly to even think about. He's almost certainly the better player as far as mechanics goes, that kind of comes with having no wrists. But Mvp is almost certainly the better player as far as build order choice and decision making goes. | ||
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blDraX
Germany39 Posts
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Dinotramp
Nauru2871 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:27 blDraX wrote: Guys, what is the best way to watch this? Can you get all the action without a Blizzcon ticket? Also, can you watch other Blizzcon-Shows for free? You don't need a ticket to watch WCS | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm looking forward to the guy trying to quote me and finding out that LimitSEA =|= DarkLordOlli I'd rather people thought we were the same person. At least then I could brag about being a writer for TL. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:20 opterown wrote: don't worry there are like 50 different pronunciations of my name (or so people think) haha lol whenever i think about your name or see it .. my mind pronounces it as opertown .. | ||
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Dinotramp
Nauru2871 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 08 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote: It wasn't a secret I believed in him when he beat Naniwa, PartinG and Squirtle in 2012, or when he almost took the Season 1 Global Finals this year ('cause let's face it, he would've wrecked sOs the way he looked vs Innovation). A Champion's a Champion, no matter what. He's just got that class, mang. You said it right there. Still want to say you didn't? | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:29 Dinotramp wrote: So what do we have to look forward to in SC2 after Blizzcon for this year? Redbull, Dreamhack Winter, Homestory Cup, Acer Team Story Cup, GSTL finals + other stuff | ||
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Dinotramp
Nauru2871 Posts
On November 08 2013 21:31 SmoKim wrote: Redbull, Dreamhack Winter, Homestory Cup, Acer Team Story Cup, GSTL finals + other stuff You forgot the biggest and best! WCG..... | ||
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Calt
Germany1140 Posts
Yes, exactly! YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG  | ||
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Dinotramp
Nauru2871 Posts
Bomber vs MMA MC vs Maru Soulkey vs Naniwa Jaedong vs MVP | ||
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