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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2361
On October 28 2013 06:39 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:36 KeksX wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 raga4ka wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Strela wrote:
You gotta play more than twice as good as protoss to win


Or just make vikings and ghosts .


I gave up on telling Terrans to make other units...



Ever tried balancing a unit composition made out of five different units where every unit is quintessential?
Dat shit's hard (if you do not start neglecting other aspects of the game)... @.@


I agree that it's not easy, but even zergs are more creative with their unit compositions nowadays!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2362
On October 28 2013 06:38 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:36 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point

mkp's tvp peak is the best tvp sc2 has seen

I'm not sure man, Mvp's TvP peak won him a GSL. :p

Did you have to even play against Protoss to win a GSL back then?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2363
Dear hiding the zealot, very smart.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Mr.lemon
Profile Joined November 2012
7 Posts
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2364
Maru = up to 400 AMP

Late anti air

Terran has no way to switch -.-

mmm is just to bad against the tos ball + storm

He did so well but no way
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 21:40:56
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2365
On October 28 2013 06:40 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:39 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:38 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:37 Whatson wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 NarutO wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
WTF, am I the only one who thinks that Maru played a lot better than Dear???


maru never built ghosts and built 2 vikings total, that's outplaying?


Agree with Dodgin. Maru played brilliantly harass wise, but he needed to get ghosts and vikings. The moment Dear managed to stabalize and get an army, it was over because Maru could never win the head on head engagement.

That's why you don't learn from Prime Terrans...They never build Ghosts or vikings until tehy absolutely have to, which is why a lot of them die in late-game TvP

still much better than any other terrans at it at their peaks

Laying down the thruth

Bomber's TvP was the most solid, son.

Pulling SCV's is solid, OKKKKKKK
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#2366
On October 28 2013 06:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 Kasaraki wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point

mkp's tvp peak is the best tvp sc2 has seen

I'm not sure man, Mvp's TvP peak won him a GSL. :p

look at the quality of play yo


Its not comparable. Its like saying iloveoov had the best Terran vs Zerg to be ever seen in Broodwar, because his comeout streak was insane. =.= HotS is very different from WoL TvP
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2367
On October 28 2013 06:38 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:37 Whatson wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 NarutO wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
WTF, am I the only one who thinks that Maru played a lot better than Dear???


maru never built ghosts and built 2 vikings total, that's outplaying?


Agree with Dodgin. Maru played brilliantly harass wise, but he needed to get ghosts and vikings. The moment Dear managed to stabalize and get an army, it was over because Maru could never win the head on head engagement.

That's why you don't learn from Prime Terrans...They never build Ghosts or vikings until tehy absolutely have to, which is why a lot of them die in late-game TvP

still much better than any other terrans at it at their peaks

For the rest of us who don't have their battle-micro, learning from Prime Terrans is suicide
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2368
On October 28 2013 06:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 Kasaraki wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point

mkp's tvp peak is the best tvp sc2 has seen

I'm not sure man, Mvp's TvP peak won him a GSL. :p

look at the quality of play yo

Yeah I know, I agree with you as well, that long period for MKP (8-10 months?) was pretty crazy. I just like to give you a hard time.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2369
Anyone knows how many observers Dear had?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2370
On October 28 2013 06:39 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:37 FrvPssn wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 The_Templar wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 FrvPssn wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:33 FrvPssn wrote:
Poll: Ro4: Match 1 Game 1

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (153)
 
81%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (31)
 
16%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
1%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
1%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
1%

190 total votes

Your vote: Ro4: Match 1 Game 1

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year


over 100 votes? :-O

See: innovation vs taeja game 3 winners match season two finals, like 500 votes

Hadn't joined TL then hmmmm

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426428

Recommended games for Group C.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295447
game 7
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2371
On October 28 2013 06:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 Glubschauge wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point


pulling the cable is a good skill to have

Wanna fight bro.

Cant fight the Prime banter

Prime (banter) seems easy

PRIME VS STARTALE ROUND 678

LIFE AND BOMBER ARE CITIZENS OF SLUMP CITY

SOOJWA TOO STRONG

Also Life goes through Code A bracket and wins IEM SLUMP CITY, POPULATION: NOT LIFE

Life is not StarTale, just like ByuN is not really Prime Terran. Simply Life is zerg on StarTale and ByuN is terran on Prime.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10151 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2372
On October 28 2013 06:40 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:40 Godwrath wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:39 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:38 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:37 Whatson wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 NarutO wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
WTF, am I the only one who thinks that Maru played a lot better than Dear???


maru never built ghosts and built 2 vikings total, that's outplaying?


Agree with Dodgin. Maru played brilliantly harass wise, but he needed to get ghosts and vikings. The moment Dear managed to stabalize and get an army, it was over because Maru could never win the head on head engagement.

That's why you don't learn from Prime Terrans...They never build Ghosts or vikings until tehy absolutely have to, which is why a lot of them die in late-game TvP

still much better than any other terrans at it at their peaks

Laying down the thruth

Bomber's TvP was the most solid, son.

Pulling SCV's is solid, OKKKKKKK

You forgot WoL rite ??

lorning go home, ur drunk.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2373
On October 28 2013 06:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 Kasaraki wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point

mkp's tvp peak is the best tvp sc2 has seen

I'm not sure man, Mvp's TvP peak won him a GSL. :p

Did you have to even play against Protoss to win a GSL back then?

Against the best
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2374
On October 28 2013 06:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 Kasaraki wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 opterown wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point

mkp's tvp peak is the best tvp sc2 has seen

I'm not sure man, Mvp's TvP peak won him a GSL. :p

Did you have to even play against Protoss to win a GSL back then?

PartinG, Rain
¯\_(シ)_/¯
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
October 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#2375
On October 28 2013 06:38 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:36 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:35 Glubschauge wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Lorning wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
this is why you don't learn tvp from marineking

But MKP¨'s TVP was so good at one point


pulling the cable is a good skill to have

Wanna fight bro.

Cant fight the Prime banter

Prime (banter) seems easy

PRIME VS STARTALE ROUND 678

LIFE AND BOMBER ARE CITIZENS OF SLUMP CITY


Bomber is the Mayor, Life just moved there recently.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2376
HEY GUYS there's a game going on right now
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2377
On October 28 2013 06:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:38 oogieogie wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 Strela wrote:
You gotta play more than twice as good as protoss to win


No.

You can't stay on only marine marauder forever vs. colossi and ghosts.

MMM vs colossi and ghosts? xD


My bad; high templar :D

np man i did the same thing basically except i mixed up players xD
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2378
On October 28 2013 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Semi Final #1

(P)Dear vs (T)Maru

Game 2

Map - Derelict Watching

QUIT BITCHING
GET FUCKING PUMPED

00:00 Maru Spawns Bottom Left Dear Spawns Top RIght


01:00 10g from Dear
ooh son this could be good
Rax and gas from Maru, looks like his reaper opening

02:00 Cyber core from Dear, early man, kid is so keen
reaper and OC from MAru
Zealot from Dear

03:00 MSC core
Kind of fucking weird so far
dear probably better than me though
CC on the low ground from Maru
he sees the early zealot from Dear which is wondering across the map
Stalker begins

04:00 This Zealot hitting like Indie trying to raid the lost arc.
Warp gate begins from Dear
MSC and zealot,stalker outside of the base of Maru
HERE HE GOES
THEY RUN PAST THE BUNKER

05:00 Another stalker joins
great harrasment from Dear
TIME WARP
SUPERB MICRO FROM DEAR
MARINES DIE
REAPERS DIE
...THE MSC FALLS
7 workers killed.
Zerg for Life
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
October 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2379
2:0.... lol
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46130 Posts
October 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2380
If Dear hadn't lost the mothership core, that could have been game-ending.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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