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On October 14 2013 01:54 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:52 Onos wrote:
So, can anyone explain to me how the 2 wins by Hyun get largely not worth viewing votes and Game 5 gets 63% saying it's the best game ever?
And people wonder why Naniwa fans are viewed as so obnoxious. LOL. Bias much? These polls just turn into a 'was the result what I wanted' poll. Just like how people misuse the upvote and downvote button on Reddit to express agreement/disagreement. Not sure there's any point in these polls myself.
Go take a walk or something, it's embarrassing how salty and childish you're acting.
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On October 14 2013 01:39 Extenz wrote:
IF HE WINS IM JUMPING OUT OF MY WINDOW NAKED! GO NANIWA
U still alive?
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On October 14 2013 01:57 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:54 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I was excited to see IEM has like 60k+ viewers then looked at the Dota2 numbers... Who cares? Look how many views soccer has. As long as there's enough to sustain a scene of this level it doesn't really matter if one game or another is doing better.
Really bad comparison... but other than that indeed - RTS esports basically is SC2.
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On October 14 2013 01:57 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:54 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I was excited to see IEM has like 60k+ viewers then looked at the Dota2 numbers... Who cares? Look how many views soccer has. As long as there's enough to sustain a scene of this level it doesn't really matter if one game or another is doing better.
This. Exactly what I was trying to express but you put it better.
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On October 14 2013 01:49 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:42 Crot4le wrote:On October 14 2013 01:41 Muffloe wrote:
HATERS GONNA HATE, GOOO NANIWA!!!!! Naniwa deserves every single bit of hate that he gets. He's a bad sport and has a dickhead personality. His only redeeming quality is that he is good at StarCraft but I judge people on their character and Naniwa is rotten to the core. He is bad for esports and the scene. User was warned for this post Naniwa is the only reason why I (and i believe many others) am watching this tournament today.
Yes, you are correct. Naniwa haters suck no less than Naniwa's rage.
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On October 14 2013 01:57 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:55 Doublemint wrote:On October 14 2013 01:55 Sated wrote:On October 14 2013 01:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I would like to take this moment to remind everyone that Naniwa complains about PvP being coinflippy Are you trying to say that PvP isn't coinflippy..? On 4 player maps there definitely is a coinflip moment. It's coinflippy on any map. Each tech choice can be blind-countered by another tech choice, or even by a greedy expansion in some cases.
no there are openings that do alright vs. pretty much anything.
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On October 14 2013 01:57 goody153 wrote:
so i just opened the stream .. and find naniwa in the grand finals o.O
how was the games ?
naniwa vs curious ! would be awesome
First 2 games were complete Hyun dominance and it looked like an easy 3-0 for him.
Then Naniwa got some superpowers.
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On October 14 2013 01:57 goody153 wrote:
so i just opened the stream .. and find naniwa in the grand finals o.O
how was the games ?
naniwa vs curious ! would be awesome
Hyun crushed two greedy strats by Nani in games 1 and 2. Nani hit with a bunch of blink stalkers and won game 3. Game 4 was Nani catching Hyun off guard with DT's then transitioning into VR's/Archons for the eventually win. Game 5 was proxy 2 gate in Hyun's main and Hyun went for 3 hatch before pool so you can tell where that ended up.
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On October 14 2013 01:55 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:54 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I was excited to see IEM has like 60k+ viewers then looked at the Dota2 numbers... Go figure the game that takes 10 people per game has more viewers
how does that have anything to do with viewership?
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On October 14 2013 01:53 mongoose22 wrote:
Is anyone else finding the whole foreigner hyping a little ugly? I find the "USA" chants for Naniwa disturbing, and I'm from America. I wonder if someone like Jim from China had gotten to the finals, whether he'd be cheered as much, being just as foreign as Naniwa to Korea.
Foreigner hype usually lead to ugly bias.
At least this time there is a good reason for it.
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On October 14 2013 01:52 Onos wrote:
So, can anyone explain to me how the 2 wins by Hyun get largely not worth viewing votes and Game 5 gets 63% saying it's the best game ever?
And people wonder why Naniwa fans are viewed as so obnoxious.
Maybe because game 5 was the clutch game of the series and decided on a high risk balls of steel move, whereas games 1 and 2 were the first two games of the series, thereby much less tense and anyway not very dramatic in the way they played out?
Congrats on winning the #1 Bitter Post of Thread award.
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On October 14 2013 01:55 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:54 Crot4le wrote:On October 14 2013 01:52 Onos wrote:
So, can anyone explain to me how the 2 wins by Hyun get largely not worth viewing votes and Game 5 gets 63% saying it's the best game ever?
And people wonder why Naniwa fans are viewed as so obnoxious. LOL. Bias much? These polls just turn into a 'was the result what I wanted' poll. Just like how people misuse the upvote and downvote button on Reddit to express agreement/disagreement. Not sure there's any point in these polls myself. Stop being so childish just because Naniwa won. It's okay to be angry or whatever but stop trying to derail LR threads and manipulate people.
Well, even as a Naniwa fan I have to admit that he is absolutely right about the polls. While I loved watching game 5, it is not objectively "one of the best games I've seen". It was a good game in context of the series (abusing your opponents greed), not more.
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On October 14 2013 01:57 goody153 wrote:
so i just opened the stream .. and find naniwa in the grand finals o.O
how was the games ?
naniwa vs curious ! would be awesome
Games were quite bad the last one makes up for the entire series.
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Well, let's be honest, for an European friendly time tournament, with a foreigner fan favorite in final, and loveable koreans, the viewership is quite low.
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On October 14 2013 01:56 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:55 Vertigro wrote:On October 14 2013 01:54 EmilA wrote:On October 14 2013 01:52 Onos wrote:
So, can anyone explain to me how the 2 wins by Hyun get largely not worth viewing votes and Game 5 gets 63% saying it's the best game ever?
And people wonder why Naniwa fans are viewed as so obnoxious. and people wonder why you are the #1 anal lube customer in all of canada fucking amazing reply  No, terrible. What is that even supposed to imply.
I suppose this
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On October 14 2013 01:58 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:57 Sated wrote:On October 14 2013 01:55 Doublemint wrote:On October 14 2013 01:55 Sated wrote:On October 14 2013 01:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I would like to take this moment to remind everyone that Naniwa complains about PvP being coinflippy Are you trying to say that PvP isn't coinflippy..? On 4 player maps there definitely is a coinflip moment. It's coinflippy on any map. Each tech choice can be blind-countered by another tech choice, or even by a greedy expansion in some cases. no there are openings that do alright vs. pretty much anything.
No there aren't, as sad and annoying as that is.
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Oh yes look at that 
2 Startale players is a beautiful sight
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On October 14 2013 01:57 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 01:55 Doublemint wrote:On October 14 2013 01:55 Sated wrote:On October 14 2013 01:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I would like to take this moment to remind everyone that Naniwa complains about PvP being coinflippy Are you trying to say that PvP isn't coinflippy..? On 4 player maps there definitely is a coinflip moment. It's coinflippy on any map. Each tech choice can be blind-countered by another tech choice, or even by a greedy expansion in some cases.
Not really, if you play safe and they play greedy they get an edge but it's not even remotely game deciding. Most games aren't coin flips. BW had the same dynamic.
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