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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1581
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


better than hyvaa, drg and symbol easily
soo and soulkey depends on the matchups
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1582
On October 12 2013 05:04 scsnow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


And where were they in season2 finals?

Not getting 4-0d by a terran again.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1583
Flash looked so down at the start of game 3... I'm so worried and so sad to see him sigh like that....
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1584
On October 12 2013 05:04 ChoDing wrote:
Flash aint no average terran in sc2...wtf u all smoking?? Gsl code s player bros. At least give him that much.

As long as Flash doesn't win everything, people will keep calling him "nothing special" or even "bad". That's how little sense they make.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1585
On October 12 2013 05:05 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:03 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
Who are these people holding a swedish flag?


I'm guessing Naniwa fans.

Those exist?

Unfortunately yes

One of my best friends is a hardcore naniwa fan
Though hes weird himself
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1586
On October 12 2013 05:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On October 12 2013 05:01 sotaporo wrote:
late game tvp makes me cringe everytime...


What about State's multitasking in the mid-game to put him ahead? State didn't win because of PvT.

Happy birthday though.


Let's be honest here, State played ok. But the multitasking achieved NOTHING until Flash gifted him 24 scv's. State then made huge glaring mistakes that almost lost him the game, but not quite enough to lose the advantage.

Watch the game and bash neither side, thanks.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1587
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.

It hard to evaluate the skill of Soulkey and Symbol, since Soulkey somehow turned into ZvP sniper, having average ZvT and wtfZvZ, while Symbol fell to Code B. Hyvaa, DRG and soO are hard to compare to JD too though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1588
On October 12 2013 05:05 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


better than hyvaa, drg and symbol easily
soo and soulkey depends on the matchups

easily? Wow. Strong words.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 20:06:14
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1589
On October 12 2013 05:03 Everlong wrote:
SC2 is not very skill dependent, any decent ladder grinding Protoss can beat Flash just like that. It is just abusing race mechanics to the point it is so blatantly obvious..

User was temp banned for this post.


Good try, bud. But a little obvious. Keep working at that for next time.
KT best KT ~ 2014
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2054 Posts
October 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1590
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1591
Thanks for the help with my food, everyone, I appreciate it. I'm really pumped to eat this muffin 2nd!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 20:07:00
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1592
On October 12 2013 05:02 Keeemy wrote:
I don't think anyone wants Flash to retire...

People are just afraid that a champion like Flash doesn't want to play a game if he doesn't win much, because let's be honest, Flash hasn't been playing that well lately.


As far as I'm concerned I'm afraid he isn't displaying anything special because he doesn't really want to play it.

After all, that's what seems to be the case with all those ex-BW pros who are retiring lately.
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Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1593
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

I wish Proleague would start up again so that I can see Flash back in form on a regular basis
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1594
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1595
Flash is good I think its just people remeber him in bw and expect utter domination but flash is a solid code S terran but no championship caliber right now unless he picks up his play
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1596
On October 12 2013 04:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 04:40 75 wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
I don't see any reason to bash Flash here. He barely made mistakes. Against a Templar opening there isn't really a lot you can do, especially considering its BelShir which is very straight forward. Drops can only come from one side and attacks at the third base can be deflected quiet good as well.

Maybe people who have no clue about Terran or Protoss or the match up in particular should stop bashing players. State was ahead because the general opening allowed him to be save, get his third base up regardless and Flash couldn't really do shit. Usually if you cannot put down aggression against Protoss and deal no damage whatsoever, it results in Protoss being ahead, if you wasn't greedy to begin with.

Thats why he 'struggled' yet when you saw the fight, even though State fucked up, Flash still won convincingly, when he should not have won like that.

flash didnt play good. did he?

What did he do wrong according to you?


Micro wise
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1597
On October 12 2013 05:05 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:05 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


better than hyvaa, drg and symbol easily
soo and soulkey depends on the matchups

easily? Wow. Strong words.


true, easily would be disrespectful, but jaedong is better than those three
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1598
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

Indeed. I think Flash may just not be super great at these weekend international tournaments. He really isn't doing horribly in WCS as well.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
October 11 2013 20:07 GMT
#1599
flash pulling a demuslism
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 20:07 GMT
#1600
On October 12 2013 05:06 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:02 Keeemy wrote:
I don't think anyone wants Flash to retire...

People are just afraid that a champion like Flash doesn't want to play a game if he doesn't win much, because let's be honest, Flash hasn't been playing that well lately.


As far as I'm concerned I'm not afraid he doesn't want to play it if he doesn't win, I'm afraid he isn't displaying anything special because he doesn't really want to play it.

After all, that's what seems to be the case with all those ex-BW pros who are retiring lately.


Yeah... I'm afraid of it too... That gsl game 3 where it was nothing like Flash... Even in SC2.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
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