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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:28 liberate71 wrote: Not to make excuses, but I'm pretty sure he plays those online group stage from KR? He does. I think. He lost to Dimaga season 1 online, then stomped him live, so it's hard to draw a lot from KR > EU lag. | ||
Olli
Austria24420 Posts
Also yes, Mvp played those from Korea | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
It's still sad though because progamers look nothing alike | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:29 liberate71 wrote: ROFL that edit is the most Australian sentence I've seen you say AHA, I have a habit of going full bogan when I'm sleepy. S'not good, hey. xD | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:30 lichter wrote: I suppose I can't blame you white people for not being able to tell Asians apart It's still sad though because progamers look nothing alike Thanks to sc2 I can now tell 300+ Korean players and coaches/personalities apart at a glance. Thanks GSL! | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:30 lichter wrote: I suppose I can't blame you white people for not being able to tell Asians apart It's still sad though because progamers look nothing alike I'm asian so I'm allowed to say the occasional player looks the same as another player when they do, right? I mean.. Keen and soO look pretty similar, front on. Or maybe it was just that one picture. I dunno. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:17 ilovewalkingbirds wrote: ups sorry, winning gsl is 1500 points right ? and the season final is 3000, if this is true, my previous statement is not ture, sorry for that If soo wins this GSL he's at 2800 I believe. Which is still 75 below Naniwa. Dear is even lower. Of course this is if Soo/Dear drops out early in Season Finals. If Soo goes to Ro8 he's pretty much guaranteed a spot. Dear is a bit less certain, he'll probably need a final to be safe. Naniwa still has a shot at point at IEm as well though, but today's results certainly didn't help his chances edit: I still think Naniwa's best chance is getting to the fianls at IEM and jumping above Revival. If Trap/Soo/Dear/(Vortix) make a Season final top2 they are gonna jump way up into the top16 so hugging the last spot now is useless. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:28 liberate71 wrote: Not to make excuses, but I'm pretty sure he plays those online group stage from KR? Even then. Yes he can ofc beat top players in top tournaments but not because of amazing skill at the game but rather because he is so good at not getting nerve issues (no pun intended lol). Even when he was back in KR he didn't really impress, did he? Look I am not saying that Mvp is bad or anything, I am just saying that he is not in the top 16 players in the world. Out of the regions other than KR probably only Taeja and maybe JD and MMA are. | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:30 lichter wrote: I suppose I can't blame you white people for not being able to tell Asians apart It's still sad though because progamers look nothing alike Thanks to SC2 I see more Asians than I see my own country-men (I don't leave my apartment very often...). I can tell Asians apart way better than Caucasians these days. >_< | ||
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Olli
Austria24420 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:31 Dodgin wrote: Thanks to sc2 I can now tell 300+ Korean players and coaches/personalities apart at a glance. Thanks GSL! What we really need is a RESPECT campaign like the one the UEFA has. ESPORTS killing racism | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:32 Aunvilgod wrote: Even then. Yes he can ofc beat top players in top tournaments but not because of amazing skill at the game but rather because he is so good at not getting nerve issues (no pun intended lol). Even when he was back in KR he didn't really impress, did he? Look I am not saying that Mvp is bad or anything, I am just saying that he is not in the top 16 players in the world. Out of the regions other than KR probably only Taeja and maybe JD and MMA are. Mechanically speaking I whole heartedly agree. He struggles to keep up mechanically these days. But as far as builds, strength of will and mind games go? I absolutely rate him in the top 16. | ||
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Olli
Austria24420 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:32 Aunvilgod wrote: Even then. Yes he can ofc beat top players in top tournaments but not because of amazing skill at the game but rather because he is so good at not getting nerve issues (no pun intended lol). Even when he was back in KR he didn't really impress, did he? Look I am not saying that Mvp is bad or anything, I am just saying that he is not in the top 16 players in the world. Out of the regions other than KR probably only Taeja and maybe JD and MMA are. If you put those up there you'd have to have HerO there too. I don't think a Top 16 is that easy to pick though. At the absolute top level everybody can beat everybody. HerO went 3-2 against Maru recently after being 2-0 up, he'd have been done with him in a GSL group stage format after the first 2 games. I don't think Bo3s necessarily show the better player (at least not as clearly as the result of the series indicates) and with the amount that some players (especially Kespa pros) play it can be really hard to tell how good they are. | ||
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:32 Vorenius wrote: If soo wins this GSL he's at 2800 I believe. Which is still 75 below Naniwa. Dear is even lower. Of course this is if Soo/Dear drops out early in Season Finals. If Soo goes to Ro8 he's pretty much guaranteed a spot. Dear is a bit less certain, he'll probably need a final to be safe. Naniwa still has a shot at point at IEm as well though, but today's results certainly didn't help his chances He really needs aleast a top 4 finish to probably have a chance of BlizzCon in the end. He isn't out of the race, but if I would guess I think he's got like a 10% chance right now(getting more IEM points increases the chance ofc). I'ts only a bonus if he makes it. He screwed up in Ro32 and he knows it. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Yes, i am shocked, but it makes sense cause Artosis. And ofc congratulations to Dear for winning GSL finals, since as we all know the guy who beats Soulkey at GSL loses next round. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:32 LimitSEA wrote: I'm asian so I'm allowed to say the occasional player looks the same as another player when they do, right? I mean.. Keen and soO look pretty similar, front on. Or maybe it was just that one picture. I dunno. Are you sure youre not comparing soO to Super? Everyone was calling them brothers in twitch chat. Nothing beats Innovation v Bomber though  | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:37 ThePlagueJG wrote: He really needs aleast a top 4 finish to probably have a chance of BlizzCon in the end. He isn't out of the race, but if I would guess I think he's got like a 10% chance right now(getting more IEM points increases the chance ofc). I'ts only a bonus if he makes it. He screwed up in Ro32 and he knows it. If Revival drops right out of IEM and Naniwa makes top4 they are tied. Naniwa need top2 and Revival to drop out to have a chance. I think 10% might be a bit optimistic unfortunately  | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
 .On October 09 2013 20:37 lolfail9001 wrote: So, were the games in Soulkey vs soO good or Soulkey played like mid master level player? Yes, i am shocked, but it makes sense cause Artosis. Artosis predicted Soo > SK. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:36 DarkLordOlli wrote: If you put those up there you'd have to have HerO there too. I don't think a Top 16 is that easy to pick though. At the absolute top level everybody can beat everybody. HerO went 3-2 against Maru recently after being 2-0 up, he'd have been done with him in a GSL group stage format after the first 2 games. I don't think Bo3s necessarily show the better player (at least not as clearly as the result of the series indicates) and with the amount that some players (especially Kespa pros) play it can be really hard to tell how good they are. Bomber, nuff said. Top 5 ~ | ||
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:37 lolfail9001 wrote: So, were the games in Soulkey vs soO good or Soulkey played like mid master level player? Yes, i am shocked, but it makes sense cause Artosis. First two games were KR GM, last game was a ling/bane all-in vs. Soulkey not walling in time. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 09 2013 20:40 NicksonReyes wrote: This Finals could be uninteresting to most of you but remember Soo eliminated Bomber, Innovation, Parting and Soulkey himself, while Dear beat DRG and Maru. They may be boring players but they definitely deserve to be in this final and didn't just luck out and avoided the favorites in the brackets. They played straight up better than those who have some "story" in them and looked like this season's potential champion before these 2 beat them. I'm just glad we got the 2 better players in the Finals .Artosis predicted Soo > SK. Artosis actually predicted this at 0:0? Ouch, Major was right. But hey, looking forward to Hot6ix cup now, since they won't have to do replacements. | ||
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