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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
October 09 2013 11:41 GMT
#1201
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:42 GMT
#1202
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 09 2013 11:43 GMT
#1203
On October 09 2013 20:34 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:32 Aunvilgod wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:28 liberate71 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:25 Aunvilgod wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:21 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:17 Aunvilgod wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:15 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:14 Heartland wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:13 ilovewalkingbirds wrote:
so this is light out for naniwa because one of this guys will have 3500 at the end of the finals


Really? Noooo

Thank god. One player less player which brings the average skill down.


Hey we also have Mvp, aLive and MC in there, not to mention many other players from WCS EU & AM. The legitimacy of the Finals being the most skilled tournament does not exist anyway. So who cares. I'd rather see a foreigner there so the viewership grows.

Mvp, a player you seem to be inferring "brings the average skill down", did pretty good against the player who was the best in the world at that point. Taking top four says a lot.


Well... did you see Mvps recent success in WCS EU? Please don't tell me he is a top player anymore.


Not to make excuses, but I'm pretty sure he plays those online group stage from KR?


Even then. Yes he can ofc beat top players in top tournaments but not because of amazing skill at the game but rather because he is so good at not getting nerve issues (no pun intended lol). Even when he was back in KR he didn't really impress, did he?

Look I am not saying that Mvp is bad or anything, I am just saying that he is not in the top 16 players in the world. Out of the regions other than KR probably only Taeja and maybe JD and MMA are.

Mechanically speaking I whole heartedly agree. He struggles to keep up mechanically these days. But as far as builds, strength of will and mind games go? I absolutely rate him in the top 16.


Yeah well said, I'd put him in my top 16.

Polt would be in the top 16 though also.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 11:45:27
October 09 2013 11:43 GMT
#1204
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory? (sorry if that sounded snarky haha - I just dont have many stick in my head. I remember stuff like Symbol v Parting in Season 2 (?) last year and Parting v Life at Blizzard up :o

But T v Z and even T v P I can think of good games (First v Fantasy, Inno v DRG etc)

I vaguely remember swarmhosts and collosus lazers
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 09 2013 11:44 GMT
#1205
I might actually tune into the finals, just to have a civilized conversation in the LR.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 11:45:57
October 09 2013 11:44 GMT
#1206
On October 09 2013 20:43 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory?


HerO vs Jaedong, HerO vs Hyun at IEM

Especially HerO vs Jaedong, that game had about a million tech switches without ever remaining on a single one. No breathing allowed, constant fights, constant decisions on the fly. And sick control.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 09 2013 11:45 GMT
#1207
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.

Strategic variety, it definitely is more versatile. But entertainment wise? ZvT is much more fun. I suppose that's subjective, though.
Long live the King of Wings
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:45 GMT
#1208
On October 09 2013 20:43 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory?

duckdeok vs Targa on Yeonsu (granted it was long death animation from something like 25 minutes). One call it boring, i call it strategically amazing until that death animation.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 09 2013 11:46 GMT
#1209
On October 09 2013 20:44 Daswollvieh wrote:
I might actually tune into the finals, just to have a civilized conversation in the LR.


Only real fans will be watching so the LR will probably be pretty smooth

and empty

Unless I spam post a lot
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 11:46 GMT
#1210
On October 09 2013 20:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:43 liberate71 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory?


HerO vs Jaedong, HerO vs Hyun at IEM

Especially HerO vs Jaedong, that game had about a million tech switches without ever remaining on a single one. No breathing allowed, constant fights, constant decisions on the fly. And sick control.

damn man i think HerO vs. HerO is the best game of all time
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 09 2013 11:46 GMT
#1211
On October 09 2013 20:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:43 liberate71 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory?


HerO vs Jaedong, HerO vs Hyun at IEM

Especially HerO vs Jaedong, that game had about a million tech switches without ever remaining on a single one. No breathing allowed, constant fights, constant decisions on the fly. And sick control.


Maybe I'm not watching the right games then

I just encounter stuff like Parting v soO lol :S
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:47 GMT
#1212
On October 09 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.

Strategic variety, it definitely is more versatile. But entertainment wise? ZvT is much more fun. I suppose that's subjective, though.

Entertainment wise? Well, seeing 11-11s, all-ins from zerg and bio-mine vs ling bane muta battle can get boring. But yeah, subjective.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 09 2013 11:47 GMT
#1213
On October 09 2013 20:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:43 liberate71 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.


Off the top of your head, whats the best PvZ in recent memory?

duckdeok vs Targa on Yeonsu (granted it was long death animation from something like 25 minutes). One call it boring, i call it strategically amazing until that death animation.

hahahahahah true true
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 11:47 GMT
#1214
Poll: Who will win the Hot6ix Cup?

Maru (2)
 
25%

soO (2)
 
25%

Symbol (1)
 
13%

Soulkey (1)
 
13%

INnoVation (1)
 
13%

Rain (1)
 
13%

RorO (0)
 
0%

Dear (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the Hot6ix Cup?

(Vote): RorO
(Vote): Symbol
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): soO



pretty good lineup i think
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:48 GMT
#1215
Soojwa obviously, as long as he won't play Soulkey if he will, he will die in the next round.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 09 2013 11:48 GMT
#1216
Individual PvZ's are rarely that interesting, but if you watch enough PvZ's the strategic depth and amount of build orders is pretty great. It's a matchup that's good on the whole, but rarely do you get amazing 5/5 games.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 09 2013 11:48 GMT
#1217
On October 09 2013 20:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.

Strategic variety, it definitely is more versatile. But entertainment wise? ZvT is much more fun. I suppose that's subjective, though.

Entertainment wise? Well, seeing 11-11s, all-ins from zerg and bio-mine vs ling bane muta battle can get boring. But yeah, subjective.


I can't imagine people arent entertained with the tense battle/s over territory in T v Z, but I can see why it shits people.

It instigates a 10 minute death animation hahha
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:49 GMT
#1218
On October 09 2013 20:48 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 20:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 20:41 forsooth wrote:
Well, my liquibets are fucked but I'm more annoyed that we got one of the most boring possible matchups for the finals. It's not quite end-WoL ZvZ snorefest level, but it's not far from it either.

PvZ is the best non-mirror in HotS, if we talk about strategic variety. TvP and TvZ suck in that regard for sure.

Strategic variety, it definitely is more versatile. But entertainment wise? ZvT is much more fun. I suppose that's subjective, though.

Entertainment wise? Well, seeing 11-11s, all-ins from zerg and bio-mine vs ling bane muta battle can get boring. But yeah, subjective.


I can't imagine people arent entertained with the tense battle/s over territory in T v Z, but I can see why it shits people.

It instigates a 10 minute death animation hahha

nah, it is just boring to watch after some time. Especially is enemies are equal and battles end up with zerg running out of resources :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
October 09 2013 11:49 GMT
#1219
Roro still exists?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 11:50 GMT
#1220
On October 09 2013 20:49 Abradix1 wrote:
Roro still exists?

Yeah, he plays on Friday IIRC
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