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On September 06 2013 01:53 HugzForL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote: Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately Who doesn't? Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc Except Jjakji and Taeja, all the names you mentionned lost pretty hard in their recent TvP. dude bomber won just today and he won agaisnt 2 tosses during the wcs season 2 finals in the group stage
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As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3
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On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote: As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3 There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there?
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I have to go I really wanted to see these games...
I will be cheering for Mvp in my heart!
Mvp! Mvp! Mvp!
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On September 06 2013 01:56 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote: As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3 There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there? It was derailed to discussion about how BW was better game anyways.
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On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote: Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately Who doesn't? Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays. Does Polt pull SCVs often? No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance. I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary.
PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ) TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered
nice double standards, really.
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On September 06 2013 01:51 Torvaltz wrote: Is there a viable strategy for terran in this matchup other than SCV pull? I don't seem to see any other strategy winning, but surely there is something else?.
didn't taeja and polt won most of their TvP without scv pull ?
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On September 06 2013 01:56 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote: As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3 There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there?
That and ZvT issues are pretty popular yup.
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On September 06 2013 01:57 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:51 Torvaltz wrote: Is there a viable strategy for terran in this matchup other than SCV pull? I don't seem to see any other strategy winning, but surely there is something else?. didn't taeja and polt won most of them TvP without scv pull ? TaeJa honestly outplayed every toss he played last season and Polt proceeded to lose to First really hard.
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European protoss saving the day !
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On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote: Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately Who doesn't? Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays. Does Polt pull SCVs often? No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance. I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary. PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ) TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered nice double standards, really.
So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus?
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On September 06 2013 01:59 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote: Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately Who doesn't? Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays. Does Polt pull SCVs often? No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance. I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary. PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ) TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered nice double standards, really. So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus?
I didn't claim P v T doesn't need skill at all. I claim its in an advantageous position and that it clearly shows. (and moreso than TvZ)
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On September 06 2013 01:59 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:59 Nebuchad wrote:On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote: Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately Who doesn't? Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays. Does Polt pull SCVs often? No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance. I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary. PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ) TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered nice double standards, really. So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus? I didn't claim P v T doesn't need skill at all. I claim its in an advantageous position and that it clearly shows. (and moreso than TvZ)
So you're saying that there's no double standard?
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Man, why all-in, if you are protoss O_o?
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Wow that was a great hold by MVP keeping his composure on defense and pressuring Showtime in his base. Impressive especially from Korea.
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I don't know if there's enough report buttons for all this balance whine.
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