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Balance whine ends now (2:03 KST). Bans will be issued (I can't believe we have to do this again...)
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 16:55:53
September 05 2013 16:55 GMT
#181
On September 06 2013 01:53 HugzForL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately


Who doesn't?


Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc


Except Jjakji and Taeja, all the names you mentionned lost pretty hard in their recent TvP.

dude bomber won just today and he won agaisnt 2 tosses during the wcs season 2 finals in the group stage
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
September 05 2013 16:55 GMT
#182
As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 05 2013 16:56 GMT
#183
On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote:
As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3

There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there?
kiss kiss fall in love
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 05 2013 16:56 GMT
#184
I have to go I really wanted to see these games...

I will be cheering for Mvp in my heart!

Mvp! Mvp! Mvp!
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#185
On September 06 2013 01:56 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote:
As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3

There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there?

It was derailed to discussion about how BW was better game anyways.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#186
On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately


Who doesn't?


Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc

What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays.


Does Polt pull SCVs often?


No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance.


I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary.


PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ)
TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered

nice double standards, really.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 16:57:57
September 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#187
On September 06 2013 01:51 Torvaltz wrote:
Is there a viable strategy for terran in this matchup other than SCV pull? I don't seem to see any other strategy winning, but surely there is something else?.


didn't taeja and polt won most of their TvP without scv pull ?
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
September 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#188
On September 06 2013 01:56 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:55 VmY wrote:
As much as I hate TvP myself, let's not turn every LR thread into a discussion about terran not being able to win without scv-pulls, please? :3

There's at least one thread (full thread) dedicated to that anyway isn't there?


That and ZvT issues are pretty popular yup.
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 16:58 GMT
#189
On September 06 2013 01:57 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:51 Torvaltz wrote:
Is there a viable strategy for terran in this matchup other than SCV pull? I don't seem to see any other strategy winning, but surely there is something else?.


didn't taeja and polt won most of them TvP without scv pull ?

TaeJa honestly outplayed every toss he played last season and Polt proceeded to lose to First really hard.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 05 2013 16:58 GMT
#190
European protoss saving the day !
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
September 05 2013 16:59 GMT
#191
On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately


Who doesn't?


Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc

What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays.


Does Polt pull SCVs often?


No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance.


I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary.


PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ)
TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered

nice double standards, really.


So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus?
No will to live, no wish to die
Torvaltz
Profile Joined August 2012
United States188 Posts
September 05 2013 16:59 GMT
#192
Smacked down that push
melee is sick
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 17:00:12
September 05 2013 16:59 GMT
#193
On September 06 2013 01:59 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately


Who doesn't?


Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc

What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays.


Does Polt pull SCVs often?


No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance.


I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary.


PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ)
TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered

nice double standards, really.


So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus?


I didn't claim P v T doesn't need skill at all. I claim its in an advantageous position and that it clearly shows. (and moreso than TvZ)
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
September 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#194
Mvppppppp
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
September 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#195
On September 06 2013 01:59 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:59 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:57 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:55 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:53 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:51 DJHelium wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 HugzForL wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Mvp seems to have some problems with protoss lately


Who doesn't?


Innovation, Bomber, Polt, Taeja, jjakji etc etc

What about guys, who do not scv pull? Only SummerTaeJa is legitimately good against at playing game of protoss nowadays.


Does Polt pull SCVs often?


No thats why First bashed him down 4-0 without Polt seeing the slightest chance.


I thought it was because First outplayed him and played a fantastic game, but your mileage may vary.


PvT - Protoss outplayed Terran (even though winrates are worse than TvZ)
TvZ - Terran is bad, would actually belong into masters, but wins GSL games because its so overpowered

nice double standards, really.


So because you've seen idiots claim that TvZ takes no skill at all, you feel like it's time to claim the same thing about TvP and join the circus?


I didn't claim P v T doesn't need skill at all. I claim its in an advantageous position and that it clearly shows. (and moreso than TvZ)


So you're saying that there's no double standard?
No will to live, no wish to die
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#196
sick
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#197
Man, why all-in, if you are protoss O_o?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 18:43:58
September 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#198
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Odawg27
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
September 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#199
Wow that was a great hold by MVP keeping his composure on defense and pressuring Showtime in his base. Impressive especially from Korea.
And then.... Trumpets
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
September 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#200
I don't know if there's enough report buttons for all this balance whine.
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