EPT[Code S] Ro32 Group C WCS Korea Season 3 2013 - Page 2
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Emzeeshady
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote: mediocre in the context of the Korean scene. He got 6th threw lucky groups and SCV pulls. I could be proved wrong of course. We will see tonight. You don't stay in Code S for so long by being mediocre. His play style may not be nice to look at but he does have a lot more success than many players stuck in Challenger league or Code B. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote: mediocre in the context of the Korean scene. He got 6th threw lucky groups and SCV pulls. I could be proved wrong of course. We will see tonight. last season he beat Squirtle, Parting, Kangho, Trap, barely lost to Rain, beat Soulkey, and then barely lost to First. I'd say that was not a lucky run. | ||
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Emzeeshady
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote: Wasn't it easier to stick around in Code S back then than now? Regardless I just don't feel his play is very strong. His results were impressive but I just think it is a hellbat/SCV pull ridden fluke. I have been wrong before (Soulkey) but usually I know what I am talking about regarding these things. He got incredibly lucky with how this group played out so if he doesn't make it that confirms this pretty well imo. Its Sos who got lucky. He is no luckier than anybody in this group. And scv pull takes skill. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote: Wasn't it easier to stick around in Code S back then than now? Regardless I just don't feel his play is very strong. His results were impressive but I just think it is a hellbat/SCV pull ridden fluke. I have been wrong before (Soulkey) but usually I know what I am talking about regarding these things. He got incredibly lucky with how this group played out so if he doesn't make it that confirms this pretty well imo. Not sure how SCV pulls are flukes, they are the same thing as immortal sentry, immortal bust, roach/bane, etc. They are timings. It is like saying Innovation fluked by going 3 base 4M vs Soulkey or Protoss fluked with 2 base quick storm. | ||
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Emzeeshady
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:15 Emzeeshady wrote: Well I got banned and flamed for saying Supernova was mediocre and wouldn't make it out of his RO32 group. He got lucky with Jangbi retiring but I still think his chances are low. posting history dude | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:14 Emzeeshady wrote: Not a fluke, just very gimmicky and luck based like any other all in. Going 3 base 4M vs Zerg is different because it can work vs anything Zerg does if you play better then him. An SCV pull relies on the opponent to choose a certain build for a free win rather then something that you win through mechanics. This genre is called Real Time Strategy for a reason -_-'' | ||
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Emzeeshady
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Emzeeshady
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NovemberstOrm
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:36 Emzeeshady wrote: I have a hard time believing that guy hasn't been banned before. his posting history is irrelevant to you getting banned lol, i'm sure you know yours isn't exactly good | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On August 30 2013 11:44 Emzeeshady wrote: Something like "back to mediocrity for another season" after failing another SCV pull vs Rain. Somehow the guy who said Symbol was garbage got banned for less then I did  Umm.. Emzeeshady was just temp banned for 30 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2012-01-08 08:53:46 and had 3993 posts. Reason: You just seem to be unable to stop posting bad in lr threads. 17 mod actions in 6 months, all for being negative about pretty much everything in existence. This is your absolute last chance to improve. Take 30 days off and come back as a good poster please. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:50 opterown wrote: his posting history is irrelevant to you getting banned lol, i'm sure you know yours isn't exactly good Anyone of us with a lot of posts probably have big files, ha. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:38 Emzeeshady wrote: Exactly and some strategies take more skill then others and rely more on luck. Someone who relies on these to do well will have fluky results compared to someone who doesn't. How much skill a strategy takes is irrelevant; all that matters is how successful it is. You assume that progamers simply flip a switch and go do an all in. Most builds are carefully chosen depending on things such as the metagame, their opponent's tendencies (scouting patterns, building placements, etc), and series position. Starcraft is a game of limited information. All builds rely on some degree of luck. Greedy > Standard > Cheese > Greedy. You choose your build depending on what you expect from an opponent. There are tons of macro players who have greater career success variability than "gimmicky" players like SuperNova or Symbol or whoever. On August 30 2013 14:16 StarStruck wrote: Anyone of us with a lot of posts probably have big files, ha. I have only ever had 1 warning. I am so vanilla | ||
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SimoNostalgia
United States226 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 30 2013 14:19 lichter wrote: How much skill a strategy takes is irrelevant; all that matters is how successful it is. You assume that progamers simply flip a switch and go do an all in. Most builds are carefully chosen depending on things such as the metagame, their opponent's tendencies (scouting patterns, building placements, etc), and series position. Starcraft is a game of limited information. All builds rely on some degree of luck. Greedy > Standard > Cheese > Greedy. You choose your build depending on what you expect from an opponent. There are tons of macro players who have greater career success variability than "gimmicky" players like SuperNova or Symbol or whoever. I have only ever had 1 warning. I am so vanilla You're a Saint. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:50 opterown wrote: his posting history is irrelevant to you getting banned lol, i'm sure you know yours isn't exactly good Agreed on this lol. | ||
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