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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_na_lr.jpg) Thursday, Aug 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_America/Challenger TL Preview:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: CatsPajamas & Gretorp or MrBitter and RotterdaM ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS America
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png)   HwangSin vs   theognisTheognis did not play his group. puCK vs   mOOnGLaDeStarting map: Bel'Shir Vestige
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HwangSin vs Theognis Game 1
HwangSin vs Theognis Game 2
HwangSin vs Theognis Game 3
puCK vs mOOnGLaDe Game 1
puCK vs mOOnGLaDe Game 2
puCK vs mOOnGLaDe Game 3
Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3
Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [HwangSin vs Theognis] ++ Show Spoiler [puCK vs mOOnGLaDe] +Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 1?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 2?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 67% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 3?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 1?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 2?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 67% ★★★ - Good game (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 3?★★★ - Good game (2) 67% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 1?★★★ - Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 2?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 3?★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2) 67% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
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Puck with the 8gate/9gate all-ins.
EDIT: Also, Theo didn't play.
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Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 1?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 2?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 67% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 3?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Moonglade vs puck game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
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Very cool of Theognis to play the group!
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On August 30 2013 07:45 Holdenintherye wrote:
Very cool of Theognis to play the group!
He didn't play.
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Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 1?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
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Rooooooot for ROOOOOOOOT and why is this thread quite dead? 
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Theognis forfeited last night, unfortunately. =(
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seems like he's having a hard time deciding whether he's retired or not
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this build by puck was very very bad and weird
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Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 2?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 67% ★★★ - Good game (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
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On August 30 2013 07:57 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 07:52 Undead1993 wrote:Rooooooot for ROOOOOOOOT and why is this thread quite dead? Most WCS AM threads are not exactly lively and a 3 player group with mostly Protoss doesn't exactly bring the crowds.
And people ask for region lock...this guys is what premier league will look like with region lock.
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Wasn't impressed with Theo's decision to play again. Even less impressed with his decision to then back out of it, again.
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On August 30 2013 08:04 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 07:57 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 07:52 Undead1993 wrote:Rooooooot for ROOOOOOOOT and why is this thread quite dead? Most WCS AM threads are not exactly lively and a 3 player group with mostly Protoss doesn't exactly bring the crowds. And people ask for region lock...this guys is what premier league will look like with region lock.
It's challenger league with only 3 out of 4 people playing. If AM region people were playing for Premier League, the stakes would be much higher and everything would be more exciting.
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On August 30 2013 08:07 Jacmert wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 08:04 gobbledydook wrote:On August 30 2013 07:57 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 07:52 Undead1993 wrote:Rooooooot for ROOOOOOOOT and why is this thread quite dead? Most WCS AM threads are not exactly lively and a 3 player group with mostly Protoss doesn't exactly bring the crowds. And people ask for region lock...this guys is what premier league will look like with region lock. It's challenger league with only 3 out of 4 people playing. If AM region people were playing for Premier League, the stakes would be much higher and everything would be more exciting.
they actually are playing for premier league right now, aren't they
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13k viewers is pretty decent, all things considered.
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Poll: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 3?★★★ - Good game (2) 67% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hwangsin vs puCk game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
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Hey puCK, you might want to learn to scout to the left of your 3rd when you see a pylon in that spot. Or hell, just scout there regardless since it's such a common harrassment route. That neglect straight up lost you the game.
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srsly, they cant even play those out live.
why do NA events NEVER have any live games, while almost everything on EU is live -,-
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On August 30 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:
srsly, they cant even play those out live.
why do NA events NEVER have any live games, while almost everything on EU is live -,-
These are live?
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On August 30 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:
srsly, they cant even play those out live.
why do NA events NEVER have any live games, while almost everything on EU is live -,-
dude wtf, it is clearly live they were mentioning the lobbychat after the first game before the second game started
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Max out hydras, this is what I played back in BW.
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On August 30 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:
srsly, they cant even play those out live.
why do NA events NEVER have any live games, while almost everything on EU is live -,-
This is most definitely live.
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Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 1?★★★ - Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
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dafuq was this move moonglade? wow, 27 drones against 4 probes of a supplyblocked toss, whhyyyyy
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Not sure why Moonglade didn't try to play that out. Protoss sure had a strong defensive position but I don't think he could attack Moonglade who had a much larger economic potential.
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Yeah why base race if you are going to just GG right when it's getting good.
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I feel in a base race, Zerg should never gg against Protoss because Protoss get much more angry and flustered during a base trade, even if they're winning.
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game polls in 2nd post some new thing we're doing?
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"8 gate all in"
Nice call. Very nice call.
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On August 30 2013 08:59 Dodgin wrote:
game polls in 2nd post some new thing we're doing?
thread was late and no one else made it D:
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On August 30 2013 09:00 iAmJeffReY wrote:
"8 gate all in"
Nice call. Very nice call.
well you can't deny that it was very weird by puck
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And Moonglade just taps out T_T
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Hmm why did MGlade go for Ultras, he had 0 upgrades on them?
And was Gretorp serious when he called Carriers OP, or just refering to some old whine?
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Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 2?★★★ - Good game (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 3?★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2) 67% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Puck vs Moonglade game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
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moonglade is clearly not in shape, this was some of the worst play by him i have ever seen, there were just so many points, i don't even want to mention them. i am disappointed with his performance and he probably is as well
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and 3 of the top 8 of season 1 are in challenger league.
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I mean, Moonglade knew there was a prism loitering around his 4th base, and how the hell he managed to lose it 3~4 times? It's not like he was prepared to defend but lost, but he completely neglected it and moved all his army around with what looks like to be in one hotkey. This is the kind of basic stuff that I get consistently disappointed with foreigners.
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On August 30 2013 09:09 Undead1993 wrote:
moonglade is clearly not in shape, this was some of the worst play by him i have ever seen, there were just so many points, i don't even want to mention them. i am disappointed with his performance and he probably is as well
OK that makes more sense. Maybe he wasn't his usual self. The game was really boring and sloppy.
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ThorZaiN is quitting soon?
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On August 30 2013 09:09 Rollora wrote:
Hmm why did MGlade go for Ultras, he had 0 upgrades on them?
And was Gretorp serious when he called Carriers OP, or just refering to some old whine?
i was wondering the same thing...
puck kept making void rays, it's not like his composition changed and moonglade wasn't ahead, so why even make a single ultra? why was he doing nothing with his vipers? in the first engagement he used blinding clouds on stalkers (wtf? why not abduct VRs?) and the observer selected one of his vipers in the middle of the second engagement that had 200/200 energy and was just floating there doing nothing
moonglade was playing like he was experimenting on ladder, not for the right to compete in a legitimate tournament...
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On August 30 2013 09:12 usethis2 wrote:
I mean, Moonglade knew there was a prism loitering around his 4th base, and how the hell he managed to lose it 3~4 times? It's not like he was prepared to defend but lost, but he completely neglected it and moved all his army around with what looks like to be in one hotkey. This is the kind of basic stuff that I get consistently disappointed with foreigners.
Please show them how its done.
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