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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 25 2013 03:38 GMT
#241
On August 25 2013 12:36 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:16 Entirety wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:22 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:06 VisonKai wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:01 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:58 Daogin wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:54 Dodgin wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:43 Havik_ wrote:
Bomber's law will be broken or Jaekong will finally win a tournament. One of these things WILL happen.


or taeja just wins another tournament in the summer ;o

or LG-IM adds to their mountain of trophies

I really want to see a picture of EVERY trophy.

I'm pretty sure the internet can't handle a picture that massive, I just checked on aligulac and LG-IM seems to be the only team with 4 players with a rating over 1700, Startale seems to be the only one with 3


tl;dr ST gosu

I agree, but IM is more gosu

ST has had to survive two of their star players leaving in the course of a week, I think you should cut them some slack. ;(


Well that's the strength of IM: player retention. I mean, can you even remember the players who left IM for another team?

Off the top of my head I can remember GanZi (way back before he even joined SlayerS) and Seed (when the IM manager actually recommended that Seed transfer to FXO).


MarineKing was supposed to join IM before he left them for prime

IIRC he joined Prime because he was recruited by July (FantaPrime at the time) who then promptly left for StarTale lol
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 03:40:31
August 25 2013 03:39 GMT
#242
On August 25 2013 12:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:36 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:16 Entirety wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:22 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:06 VisonKai wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:01 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:58 Daogin wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:54 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

or taeja just wins another tournament in the summer ;o

or LG-IM adds to their mountain of trophies

I really want to see a picture of EVERY trophy.

I'm pretty sure the internet can't handle a picture that massive, I just checked on aligulac and LG-IM seems to be the only team with 4 players with a rating over 1700, Startale seems to be the only one with 3


tl;dr ST gosu

I agree, but IM is more gosu

ST has had to survive two of their star players leaving in the course of a week, I think you should cut them some slack. ;(


Well that's the strength of IM: player retention. I mean, can you even remember the players who left IM for another team?

Off the top of my head I can remember GanZi (way back before he even joined SlayerS) and Seed (when the IM manager actually recommended that Seed transfer to FXO).


MarineKing was supposed to join IM before he left them for prime

IIRC he joined Prime because he was recruited by July (FantaPrime at the time) who then promptly left for StarTale lol


July was never on the team, just in the social clan

also i'm 99% sure it was checkprime he was close to, not july
can i get my estro logo back pls
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 03:40:55
August 25 2013 03:40 GMT
#243
On August 25 2013 12:39 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:36 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:16 Entirety wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:22 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:06 VisonKai wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:01 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:58 Daogin wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:56 Die4Ever wrote:
[quote]
or LG-IM adds to their mountain of trophies

I really want to see a picture of EVERY trophy.

I'm pretty sure the internet can't handle a picture that massive, I just checked on aligulac and LG-IM seems to be the only team with 4 players with a rating over 1700, Startale seems to be the only one with 3


tl;dr ST gosu

I agree, but IM is more gosu

ST has had to survive two of their star players leaving in the course of a week, I think you should cut them some slack. ;(


Well that's the strength of IM: player retention. I mean, can you even remember the players who left IM for another team?

Off the top of my head I can remember GanZi (way back before he even joined SlayerS) and Seed (when the IM manager actually recommended that Seed transfer to FXO).


MarineKing was supposed to join IM before he left them for prime

IIRC he joined Prime because he was recruited by July (FantaPrime at the time) who then promptly left for StarTale lol


July was never on the team, just in the social clan

ah ok. I remember an interview where he was somehow involved in marineking choosing prime though from wayyyyy back
Maybe it had something to do with Marineking being part of the clan as BoxeR. i dont remember the exact details
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 25 2013 03:40 GMT
#244
On August 25 2013 12:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:39 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:36 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:16 Entirety wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:22 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:06 VisonKai wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:01 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:58 Daogin wrote:
[quote]
I really want to see a picture of EVERY trophy.

I'm pretty sure the internet can't handle a picture that massive, I just checked on aligulac and LG-IM seems to be the only team with 4 players with a rating over 1700, Startale seems to be the only one with 3


tl;dr ST gosu

I agree, but IM is more gosu

ST has had to survive two of their star players leaving in the course of a week, I think you should cut them some slack. ;(


Well that's the strength of IM: player retention. I mean, can you even remember the players who left IM for another team?

Off the top of my head I can remember GanZi (way back before he even joined SlayerS) and Seed (when the IM manager actually recommended that Seed transfer to FXO).


MarineKing was supposed to join IM before he left them for prime

IIRC he joined Prime because he was recruited by July (FantaPrime at the time) who then promptly left for StarTale lol


July was never on the team, just in the social clan

ah ok. I remember an interview where he was somehow involved in marineking choosing prime though from wayyyyy back

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222624 found it :D
can i get my estro logo back pls
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 03:42:52
August 25 2013 03:42 GMT
#245
On August 25 2013 12:40 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:39 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:36 aRyuujin wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:16 Entirety wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:22 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:06 VisonKai wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:01 Die4Ever wrote:
[quote]
I'm pretty sure the internet can't handle a picture that massive, I just checked on aligulac and LG-IM seems to be the only team with 4 players with a rating over 1700, Startale seems to be the only one with 3


tl;dr ST gosu

I agree, but IM is more gosu

ST has had to survive two of their star players leaving in the course of a week, I think you should cut them some slack. ;(


Well that's the strength of IM: player retention. I mean, can you even remember the players who left IM for another team?

Off the top of my head I can remember GanZi (way back before he even joined SlayerS) and Seed (when the IM manager actually recommended that Seed transfer to FXO).


MarineKing was supposed to join IM before he left them for prime

IIRC he joined Prime because he was recruited by July (FantaPrime at the time) who then promptly left for StarTale lol


July was never on the team, just in the social clan

ah ok. I remember an interview where he was somehow involved in marineking choosing prime though from wayyyyy back

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222624 found it :D

aw damn it was Check. For some reason I thought it was Fanta/July. Would have made for a better story. :/
I must have noticed something about July around that time and overlapped that somehow. gg bad memory
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 25 2013 04:05 GMT
#246
Haha if MarineKing joined IM, think of all the teamkill finals!

IMMarineKing vs. IMNesTea
IMMarineKing vs. IMMvp
IMMarineKing vs. IMMvp (Round 2)
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 25 2013 04:12 GMT
#247
He might have won a gsl or something by now if he joined IM

....

Nah
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 25 2013 04:14 GMT
#248
IM may have won another GSTL season though. With a better training environment he may have turned out to be a better player as well even though he was doing pretty damn well in early 2012. Imagine if he was on a team where he wasnt financing a lot of it and had an actual practice regime instead of lol let's ladder! oh well
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#249
Coach Park wanted to revive Jaedong - mission successful
Refer to my post.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 04:19:18
August 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#250
On August 25 2013 13:15 Zenbrez wrote:
Coach Park wanted to revive Jaedong - mission successful

Jaedong was just a warm up. look what he's doing at CJ already

On August 25 2013 13:17 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 13:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
IM may have won another GSTL season though. With a better training environment he may have turned out to be a better player as well even though he was doing pretty damn well in early 2012. Imagine if he was on a team where he wasnt financing a lot of it and had an actual practice regime instead of lol let's ladder! oh well

Seems good enough for the rest of esf teams =\

Yeah I mean if Maru's interview is honest it was good enough for him to win the OSL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"what if" games are fun to play sometimes, though
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 04:17:52
August 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#251
On August 25 2013 13:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
IM may have won another GSTL season though. With a better training environment he may have turned out to be a better player as well even though he was doing pretty damn well in early 2012. Imagine if he was on a team where he wasnt financing a lot of it and had an actual practice regime instead of lol let's ladder! oh well

Seems good enough for the rest of esf teams =\


On August 25 2013 13:15 Zenbrez wrote:
Coach Park wanted to revive Jaedong - mission successful

Jaedong was just a warm up. look what he's doing at CJ already

Haha, he's bringing the power out of the rookies. Good guy Park
Refer to my post.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#252
I think its time for another elephant in the room article.

USAUSAUSAUSAUSA > EURO > KOREA

wcs is pretty much proving it
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 04:21:45
August 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#253
On August 25 2013 13:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
IM may have won another GSTL season though. With a better training environment he may have turned out to be a better player as well even though he was doing pretty damn well in early 2012. Imagine if he was on a team where he wasnt financing a lot of it and had an actual practice regime instead of lol let's ladder! oh well

For all the mediocre results MKP has been posting recently, he's actually top-notch mechanically. It's just that these days being a good mechanical player won't get you anywhere without the decision-making to back it up. If the trade lock ends and he gets snatched up by KeSPA, then I think he'll have another good shot at a championship.

I honestly don't know why he's still on Prime, except for maybe loyalty, but that's not going to win you trophies nor make you money ...

@ Zenbrez: Other eSF teams do ladder a lot, but Prime in particular is known for mass laddering for practice.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 25 2013 04:23 GMT
#254
Not trying to start a debate, just curious if my memory is correct - didn't Life say he was just playing ladder during the GSL he won?
Refer to my post.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
August 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#255
Lots of great series so far, i'm excited for the Ro4! Jaedong vs Taeja 4-3 finals make it happen!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 04:31:40
August 25 2013 04:30 GMT
#256
On August 25 2013 13:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Not trying to start a debate, just curious if my memory is correct - didn't Life say he was just playing ladder during the GSL he won?

Yeah, but that's just Life, bro. :D Wouldn't use him as a counterexample (or example) for "standard."

Anyways, I think in interviews he said he laddered up until the Ro4, then he started actually practicing with teammates iirc? It can't have all been just ladder though, because if that were the case, he would've broken out on ZeNEX. Having a structured practice schedule, a supportive environment, and decent coaching probably played a large role in his rise.

(Rumors abound saying that Prime is lacking in all three of these categories.

Funny tidbit: ST used to be known as a team for having the least rigorous practice schedules.)
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 25 2013 04:39 GMT
#257
So excited for TaeJa vs Bomber. Expecting an epic series of TvT. The most beautiful matchup in sc2. Both players playing such high level tvt's lately it should be a classic.

But I guess that gives it a good chance to disappoint also
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 25 2013 04:46 GMT
#258
This has, thus far anyway, been the best SC2 tournament of all time. I don't even think its that close, when you factor in everything from talent level, to hype/fan interest, to production quality, to the quality of the games.

But, that will be overshadowed if Day 3 is a bust. Here's hoping that no matter who wins, the quality of play stays as high as its been.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 25 2013 04:52 GMT
#259
On August 25 2013 13:20 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 13:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
IM may have won another GSTL season though. With a better training environment he may have turned out to be a better player as well even though he was doing pretty damn well in early 2012. Imagine if he was on a team where he wasnt financing a lot of it and had an actual practice regime instead of lol let's ladder! oh well

For all the mediocre results MKP has been posting recently, he's actually top-notch mechanically. It's just that these days being a good mechanical player won't get you anywhere without the decision-making to back it up. If the trade lock ends and he gets snatched up by KeSPA, then I think he'll have another good shot at a championship.

I honestly don't know why he's still on Prime, except for maybe loyalty, but that's not going to win you trophies nor make you money ...

@ Zenbrez: Other eSF teams do ladder a lot, but Prime in particular is known for mass laddering for practice.


Still, I really want to see Mvp and MarineKing on IM together for so many reasons... MarineKing is solid mechanically, so why not have Mvp mentor him? Mvp knows what's up in terms of build orders, strategies, tactics, mind games, mental strength, etc.

Now that I put it that way, I think Coach Mvp would be imba.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 25 2013 04:59 GMT
#260
I was going to post more about Mvp but then I know some people don't like the Mvp circle jerk that inevitably happens in LR threads

(they don't like it bec their players don't win anything lololol)
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