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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5541
On August 25 2013 02:29 Lysanias wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:28 Mozdk wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:27 udgnim wrote:
would not be surprised if Scarlett is one of the best mechanical SC2 Zergs in the world


There is no doubt she is. Everyone says she is. The best creep spread for sure.


I might be a bit of a fanboy of LosirA but i do believe his creep spread is of that level aswell.


Top2 creep spread :D

But yeah his is good.

First game shows perfectly how every zerg in the world wants to play. They want to be left alone, make 80 drones and then units. Don't let them do this guys :D
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:32:32
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5542
On August 25 2013 02:27 Exarl25 wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:27 Cereb wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:24 Exarl25 wrote:
Do people still not know that a Zerg holding down a key to make units/morph Banelings causes APM to skyrocket? Someone in Bronze can hit that 700+ "APM".



That's not gonna cover it dude but of course that is part of it.


If it was that easy then why don't we see this all the time -_-;;


That is all of it. Go try it yourself now. We do it see it all the time.



Really? I have never seen it with the way they show the APM in WCS. Are you sure you have seen their show this? Yeah, WC2Gear is gonna show that for a millisecond but I would assume there display doesn't register it down to the millisecond which makes it harder.

I atleast have never ever seen it in WCS.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5543
On August 25 2013 02:31 Andamanen wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:28 bo1b wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:27 BlackCompany wrote:
It be extremly funny if 2 of 2 Zergs actually reach the semi-finals. I mean, so many people complain that TvZ is T favoured and we basicly have the Terran elite players all together here ( - MVP ) and still the Zergs go through^^. They are both playing amazing games though, not like they were only lucky or so

Terrans have been playing retardedly vs scarlett so far

It's funny how they all seem to think it will be different for them. "Oh, surely I'll be able to out-macro that foreigner..."

I could play against them if they allow me to just about max out with no pressure
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5544
I don't care how good the story is, I don't want a ZvZ final
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5545
On August 25 2013 02:31 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:31 Abominous wrote:
still, aLive humiliated Scarlett.

Bomber law, yo. :D

nope. plz
The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5546
On August 25 2013 02:30 BlackCompany wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:28 bo1b wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:27 BlackCompany wrote:
It be extremly funny if 2 of 2 Zergs actually reach the semi-finals. I mean, so many people complain that TvZ is T favoured and we basicly have the Terran elite players all together here ( - MVP ) and still the Zergs go through^^. They are both playing amazing games though, not like they were only lucky or so

Terrans have been playing retardedly vs scarlett so far


Thats the sad part about it, you would have thought with how good Maru, MMA and bomber are they would try something better than playing excatly the style that Scarlett crushes

It's about execution, that's all.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5547
On August 25 2013 02:29 babylon wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:28 Yorbon wrote:
I wonder if such passive play will be viable in a few months against good zerg play.

It hasn't been viable for a year already.
Okay, well, that shows my knowledge on metagame :')

Although i doubt referring to wol makes sense with this topic.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5548
On August 25 2013 02:32 Wintex wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:31 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:31 Abominous wrote:
still, aLive humiliated Scarlett.

Bomber law, yo. :D

nope. plz

it's not Bomber's law when the favored player wins, is it?
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5549
On August 25 2013 02:31 GattAttack wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:26 Thezzy wrote:
Time for a 2port Banshee!


Dude yes! Why is this build no longer a thing XD


Because Namhcir no longer plays?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5550
On August 25 2013 02:31 sudete wrote:
Should Bomber go for a 2 base all in?

Answer: doesn't matter, go go go go go go go scarlett!!


No he should play standard tvz and not play super safe like that 1st game.
When I think of something else, something will go here
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5551
On August 25 2013 02:31 GattAttack wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:26 Thezzy wrote:
Time for a 2port Banshee!


Dude yes! Why is this build no longer a thing XD


Maps are twice as big as in early WoL, ovies are way faster.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#5552
On August 25 2013 02:31 pylonsalad wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:25 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:24 pylonsalad wrote:
Alright, Scarlett has 2nd best zvt in the world.


after ?


SK of course.

SK's ZvT did not look that good ever since his win against Innovation in SPL R4.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5553
let's go Bomber! You can't lose here. You must disappoint us in RO4!!!!!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5554
On August 25 2013 02:32 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:29 Lysanias wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:28 Mozdk wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:27 udgnim wrote:
would not be surprised if Scarlett is one of the best mechanical SC2 Zergs in the world


There is no doubt she is. Everyone says she is. The best creep spread for sure.


I might be a bit of a fanboy of LosirA but i do believe his creep spread is of that level aswell.


Top2 creep spread :D

But yeah his is good.

First game shows perfectly how every zerg in the world wants to play. They want to be left alone, make 80 drones and then units. Don't let them do this guys :D


Ret would make a comeback oooooh snap
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5555
On August 25 2013 02:32 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:31 GattAttack wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:26 Thezzy wrote:
Time for a 2port Banshee!


Dude yes! Why is this build no longer a thing XD


Maps are twice as big as in early WoL, ovies are way faster.

banshee play with expo is fun in lower leagues :D
The Bomber boy
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44146 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5556
On August 25 2013 02:30 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Ok guys... So.. We have 2 zergs in the tournament. 1 is slaughtering all protoss and the other is crushing through all terrans. Amazing storyline for a zvz finals.


wow that would be amazing to quite honest
this is a quote
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5557
90k viewers nice!!
yo
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5558
On August 25 2013 02:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:32 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:31 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:31 Abominous wrote:
still, aLive humiliated Scarlett.

Bomber law, yo. :D

nope. plz

it's not Bomber's law when the favored player wins, is it?

Depends how much hype is behind Bomber at the moment of the fight as well no?
The curse is real
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5559
On August 25 2013 02:32 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:31 sudete wrote:
Should Bomber go for a 2 base all in?

Answer: doesn't matter, go go go go go go go scarlett!!


No he should play standard tvz and not play super safe like that 1st game.


You are late, Jaedong's domination is over for today.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#5560
On August 25 2013 02:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:29 Schelim wrote:
Bomber with his skillset SHOULD be able to play the same style as Innovation with similar results in TvZ. but for some reason he's not doing that =/

Innovation's TvZ comes from few things:
1st one is good enough macro. Not perfect, just insane enough.
2nd one is insane micro. MKP level of splits + microing mines.
3rd one is nice and refined build that applies enough pressure with hellions and gets nice infrastructure.

yeah. you just explained why Bomber would be great at that style. he just needs to copy Innovation's build.
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