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[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 13

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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#241
Lol Vortix taking notes from aLive. XD
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3389 Posts
August 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#242
Go Apollo.
Bait that balance whine
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#243
On August 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:19 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:18 ImperialFist wrote:
I have to say NA wsc finals would stomp all over EU like no tomorrow.


Jaedong < Protoss though


But he did beat the Jimcredible though


Did you watch the games?


Of course I did. He won.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
August 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#244
On August 11 2013 20:20 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:17 kayser wrote:
I just wan't that blizzard make a rules to let only 2 korean on the WCS europe because it's to easy for them and it destroy european scene.


How does it destroy the European scene? DH was there before and still is there. Assembly was there before and still is. IEM was there before and still is. HSC was there before and still is. Exactly 0 tournaments get affected by WCS EU, it is just an additional tournament, which is pretty much the opposite of destroying the scene.


Nop, WCS EU existed last year and it was much better.
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 11:23:23
August 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#245
On August 11 2013 20:14 Rassy wrote:
Difference is 5 zealots and not 10.
5 archon+5 zealots against 6 archon,then cost is same.
Guess would still go with the zealots though.



No it's not,

DT math :
125/125*2 * 6 archons = 1500/1500

HT Math :
50/150*2 * 5 archons = 500/1500

Thus in the HT math there is still 10 zealots to equalize the cost
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#246
On August 11 2013 20:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:19 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:18 ImperialFist wrote:
I have to say NA wsc finals would stomp all over EU like no tomorrow.


Jaedong < Protoss though


But he did beat the Jimcredible though


Did you watch the games?


Of course I did. He won.

I would say they both lost it. JD lost it for game 4, Jim for that one moment in game 5.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#247
On August 11 2013 20:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:19 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:18 ImperialFist wrote:
I have to say NA wsc finals would stomp all over EU like no tomorrow.


Jaedong < Protoss though


But he did beat the Jimcredible though


Did you watch the games?


Of course I did. He won.


He made some very questionable decisions against a Jim that was obviously very shaken and had terrible unit control. Sure, he won, but he's no ZvP gosu just yet.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
KaneZ
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany202 Posts
August 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#248
Would be a great way to start the day by watching NaNiwa losing.
† Stephano †
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 11:24:07
August 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#249
Vortix clearly wasn't ready for Apollo to give him the floor to openly talk balance.

He did nothing with that 90 seconds aside from just reinforce the stereotype that zerg players are whiners.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#250
I would agree that protoss has more options in terms of choice of builds/strategy but vortix is wrong in saying that there is only one viable style for zerg.
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#251
Reason why I don't watch EU WCS is because of RedEye. After awhile I just get this rage when I hear him talk. Must be the accent and the ugly face along with it

User was temp banned for this post.
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#252
Hype!
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#253
On August 11 2013 20:22 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:14 Rassy wrote:
Difference is 5 zealots and not 10.
5 archon+5 zealots against 6 archon,then cost is same.
Guess would still go with the zealots though.


umm no.. dt archons are 250/250, 6 for 1500/1500. 6 ht archons and 10 zealots is also 1500/1500.
Only if you're doing a specific timing and saving on the archives is their some use in dt archons like the common zealot/archon timing to try and bust and expo after dt opening (not so popular now but it was in WoL)

All the other times you just want ht archons, it's just quite a bit better. Sure you need a little more production but even if you put 2 extra gates you still get 7 zealots for an archon. Thing is archons aren't even that good.. 5 zealots do just fine against an archon.. It's good to make archons but it's the pivotal unit, zealot + ht archons + immortals > zealots + dt archons any day. And that is exactly why welmu's lategame pvp is quite weak.


10 Zealots and 6 HT Archons cost 1000/0 + 600/1800 =1600/1800.
KaneZ
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany202 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#254
On August 11 2013 20:23 Fjodorov wrote:
I would agree that protoss has more options in terms of choice of builds/strategy but vortix is wrong in saying that there is only one viable style for zerg.


Indeed, there isnt a single viable style for Zerg in ZvP currently.
† Stephano †
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#255
Welmu and naniwa, what great representatives for the scene...
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
August 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#256
LMAO..... Zerg is UP and Protoss is OP - VortiX

I'm I the only one that really enjoys hearing the Pro balance whine?
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
August 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#257
On August 11 2013 20:24 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 20:22 Markwerf wrote:
On August 11 2013 20:14 Rassy wrote:
Difference is 5 zealots and not 10.
5 archon+5 zealots against 6 archon,then cost is same.
Guess would still go with the zealots though.


umm no.. dt archons are 250/250, 6 for 1500/1500. 6 ht archons and 10 zealots is also 1500/1500.
Only if you're doing a specific timing and saving on the archives is their some use in dt archons like the common zealot/archon timing to try and bust and expo after dt opening (not so popular now but it was in WoL)

All the other times you just want ht archons, it's just quite a bit better. Sure you need a little more production but even if you put 2 extra gates you still get 7 zealots for an archon. Thing is archons aren't even that good.. 5 zealots do just fine against an archon.. It's good to make archons but it's the pivotal unit, zealot + ht archons + immortals > zealots + dt archons any day. And that is exactly why welmu's lategame pvp is quite weak.


10 Zealots and 6 HT Archons cost 1000/0 + 600/1800 =1600/1800.


The zealots go with the HT archons not the DT archons and you beat me Markwerf
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
August 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#258
With a mindset like that Vortix has already lost this game.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
August 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#259
On August 11 2013 20:24 woody60707 wrote:
LMAO..... Zerg is UP and Protoss is OP - VortiX

I'm I the only one that really enjoys hearing the Pro balance whine?

Everybody loves drama.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3389 Posts
August 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#260
On August 11 2013 20:24 woody60707 wrote:
I'm I the only one that really enjoys hearing the Pro balance whine?

Only if they are properly baited.
No fun in hearing what Idra has to say.
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