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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1481
On August 11 2013 00:59 Sated wrote:
Okay, c'mon Grubby, crush those chances of a TvZ final happening!

(... or maybe I should shut up, because every player that I wanted to win has lost so far T_T)


CURSED!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1482
On August 11 2013 00:59 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:54 Ippo wrote:
3/4 Koreans, i'll never laugh at WCS Murica again.

Its going to be awkward when WCS America has more foreigners in top 4 then EU.

WCS AM finals between Jim and macsed pls.
Glorious SEA doto
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1483
On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years?


he did this

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[image loading]
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1484
On August 11 2013 00:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:50 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:48 BronzeKnee wrote:
Now if only there was one more Korean so we could have an all Korean European WCS Final Four!

Such a good idea not to lock the regions, so we could just have Korean, Korean East and Korea West WCS.


Koreans are imbalanced, let's remove them from the game.

...


God Forbid I watch a tournament in Europe that will send European representatives to the WCS finals that actually has European players huh?


Is it better them being crushed in WCS grand finals even more rather than Europe finals, and not give spot for a bit more capable players that defeated them already?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1485
On August 11 2013 00:58 figq wrote:
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On August 11 2013 00:57 sudete wrote:
Clearly fringe code S players are no namers..

Right? Right?!
Code what?

Sounds like no-name tournament.

Ònly faceless players participate there.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1486
On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years?


I think he's been in eSports for a while now. Liquipedia says 11 years.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12552 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1487
On August 11 2013 00:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:50 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:48 BronzeKnee wrote:
Now if only there was one more Korean so we could have an all Korean European WCS Final Four!

Such a good idea not to lock the regions, so we could just have Korean, Korean East and Korea West WCS.


Koreans are imbalanced, let's remove them from the game.

...


God Forbid I watch a tournament in Europe that will send European representatives to the WCS finals that actually has European players huh?


I'm sure you want that. I don't see these two statements as being contradictory.
No will to live, no wish to die
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:00:49
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1488
Vortix has 70% hots ZvP, makes a good chance on getting to the finals. And even a chance of winning if MC beats MMA
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46480 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1489
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
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On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4

He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL.

If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#1490
On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years?


ReDeYe, alongside djWHEAT, has been casting competitive gaming since the early 2000s. So he's probably one of the most experienced at it and also a genuine badass. ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1491
--- Nuked ---
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1492
dat smile :D

too bad that one of these two has to fall today
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1493
It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46480 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1494
On August 11 2013 01:00 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years?


he did this

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[image loading]


All of them? Wow O.O
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:01:58
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1495
On August 11 2013 00:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4


He lost to HerO. In the winter. Give the guy a break.

(HerO won NASL)


When I see him play a game that passes over the 15 minute mark I might consider giving him a chance but that wont happen so. No this guy is just annoying in all way you can be.

He cheese in every game, has the most retarded nick in e-sport history, is in general one out 100+ Korean SC2 players I can switch around in interviews cause they all talk/behave the same and with his 100% cheese style he managed to knock out every fan favorite player.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1496
On August 11 2013 01:00 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:50 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:48 BronzeKnee wrote:
Now if only there was one more Korean so we could have an all Korean European WCS Final Four!

Such a good idea not to lock the regions, so we could just have Korean, Korean East and Korea West WCS.


Koreans are imbalanced, let's remove them from the game.

...


God Forbid I watch a tournament in Europe that will send European representatives to the WCS finals that actually has European players huh?


Is it better them being crushed in WCS grand finals even more rather than Europe finals, and not give spot for a bit more capable players that defeated them already?


Its fine watching them get stomped in finals as a reminder of who the best country at starcraft is. It is a little sad that they don't make it that far to get stomped though.
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:03:28
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#1497
On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years?


I think he blogged about it. Read it. I only skimmed but he's been involved in esports a looong time as I recall. Just moved to sc2 from other games.

edit http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=365265
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
August 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#1498
On August 11 2013 00:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:50 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:45 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:43 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:42 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:39 scypio wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:37 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:31 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:30 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
[quote]
There should be a strict personality committee that checks each Korean for their personality before they join WCS EU. Board members on the committee would be WhiteRa, Fuzer and Bling.


Should also demand proper champagne-opening skills and alcohol tolerance to make sure there isn't a PERSONALITY OVERLOAD similar to a certain frenchman

Personality? Is it that important to you that the player does some stupid ceremony or BMs the opponent?

... Lets play Tim Tebow over Tom Brady because Tim is a "likeable" guy and a god fearing Christian...
Western culture would rather have a fun time getting negative results than getting positive results through hard work and dedication I guess.


SC2 is entertainment. In entertainment personality matters. Deal with it.

Is it entertainment? I thought it was a sport... lol


Sport is entertainment, which is what most sports survive on (on a professional level)

I guess that is why so many sports franchises base their personnel decision on personality, not talent and skill. LMFAO


I'm unsure if you're being intentionally thick or don't understand this, but: what happens if people stop being entertained by soccer? What happens to the sport as a whole? On a professional level, that is.


I'm thick? People are entertained by the level of skill and talent on the professional level in soccer or football, goofy things said or done on the field are just distractions from the main entertainment. (which is the match itself)


Okay, I'll spell it out for you. If people aren't entertained by -insert thing-, they stop watching. It so happens that skill and good play is a big part in soccer, just as it is in Starcraft, but soccer storylines and narratives established over an in comparison extremely large period of time. Starcraft does not yet have the readily available abundance of storylines, which is why many people obsess over "personality"; they want a way to connect to foreign players or players they don't know. If you think the viewer count would be the same if we didn't know who was playing, you're very mistaken. If you think "level of play" is the only thing that matters in sports as a whole, you're very mistaken.

Why do you think people cheer for their own countries and go out of their way to watch objectively inferior teams play when for example the World Cup is on? Why do people cheer for -insert small British team- instead of Manchester United? Because those are the teams they support, the teams they care about. Skill plays a role, but it's not the sole deciding factor in who watches what.

I think it's really sad when people complain about Koreans supposedly "lacking personality" because they all have (except a very select few such as Innovation) personality and interesting storylines, but they aren't as accessible. Why are more foreigners watching WCS EU than watched WCS KR earlier today? Slightly uncomfortable answers, I know, and it's kind of sad to think about, but that's the way it is.



uhh I agreed with you up until the last point. One BIG reason that WCS EU has more viewers than WCS KR (is this actually fact?) is because WCS KR finals took place at like 5am US eastern and like 2am US west. WCS EU started in the morning in america so more people are going to wake up and watch.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#1499
On August 11 2013 01:01 Ammanas wrote:
It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers


Worst production? Really? I say NASL was pretty lackluster last week
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
August 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#1500
Grubby for the face of esports. He's the best.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
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