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[OSL] Grand Finals WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 108

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2141
On August 10 2013 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
I wonder why we hit so few viewers



5 am in NA, TI3 and WCS EU this afternoon.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2142
My Emperor! He has given Maru his blessing. All is right.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2143
On August 10 2013 18:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:33 NarutO wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:32 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:28 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:26 BongChambers wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:23 RiZu wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:19 scypio wrote:
[quote]

Because Polt was the only T to win vs P in WCS in like two weeks (apart from 1 series vs Minigun).


I think best TvPer is either Polt or Gumiho. Innovation... he's awesome ofc, but I wouldn't call him a TvP specialist, just overall good.

Innovation seemed to be the only one who doesn't pull SCV though.


No he does.

I specifically remember at least 3 games where he pulled SCVs in the midgame to win.

Artosis described it as, knowing he was just far enough ahead to go for the killing blow. Nothing cheesy about it.

Just goes to show what a little bit of good o'l caster bias does to a player's perception of a strategy.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he does strategic timing attacks


AKA "a player I like cheesing"

Also didn't he 11/11 Soulkey in the last finals as well? Pretty hilarious fanboyism there.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he uses exquisitely tuned timings to exploit the ebb and flow of the game and the weaknesses of his opponent in a game that rewards godlike play such as his

Which is why he got owned by Maru


He does cheese from time to time, but he has more to offer than just that and seems like Maru has not (at least not TvP)


I can't tell if you're being serious


I am. If you imply Maru is somewhere around INnoVations level in Terran vs Protoss I would have to ask you if you are serious
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2144
On August 10 2013 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
I wonder why we hit so few viewers

It actually slowly increasing.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2145
Those skirt makes female caster looks like she got a body of legs :O
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2146
On August 10 2013 18:32 LimitSEA wrote:
BOXER STOP BEING SO HANDSOME.


I was waiting for reply such as these ~~ hahahaha
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2147
On August 10 2013 18:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:33 NarutO wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:32 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:28 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:26 BongChambers wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:23 RiZu wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:19 scypio wrote:
[quote]

Because Polt was the only T to win vs P in WCS in like two weeks (apart from 1 series vs Minigun).


I think best TvPer is either Polt or Gumiho. Innovation... he's awesome ofc, but I wouldn't call him a TvP specialist, just overall good.

Innovation seemed to be the only one who doesn't pull SCV though.


No he does.

I specifically remember at least 3 games where he pulled SCVs in the midgame to win.

Artosis described it as, knowing he was just far enough ahead to go for the killing blow. Nothing cheesy about it.

Just goes to show what a little bit of good o'l caster bias does to a player's perception of a strategy.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he does strategic timing attacks


AKA "a player I like cheesing"

Also didn't he 11/11 Soulkey in the last finals as well? Pretty hilarious fanboyism there.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he uses exquisitely tuned timings to exploit the ebb and flow of the game and the weaknesses of his opponent in a game that rewards godlike play such as his

Which is why he got owned by Maru


He does cheese from time to time, but he has more to offer than just that and seems like Maru has not (at least not TvP)


I can't tell if you're being serious

No, he couldn't tell if you were being serious.
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2148
On August 10 2013 18:33 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:32 jonich0n wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 Wintex wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 opterown wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:24 Fionn wrote:
Maru should just throw his hook at the Nexus and recall into his base to kill Rain instantly


that was like the most bullcrap game in a while =.=

StrongFu failed a bit tho. Sick plays from Mr Ishutin tho.

TongFu vs IG was incredibly boring

I was sleeping, THANKS FOR SPOILING THE LACK OF FUN LOL (I don't care about spoilers. I hope iG does well!)


This is legitimate proof that Dota2 is literally consuming SC2 lol
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2149
On August 10 2013 18:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:32 Incognoto wrote:
Hey who is that Korean guy being interviewed?


serious post? >_>


I know I shouldn't use images to post but...

+ Show Spoiler +
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User was warned for this post
maru lover forever
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2150
On August 10 2013 18:33 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:32 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:28 Zealously wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:26 BongChambers wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:23 RiZu wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:19 scypio wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:17 samurai80 wrote:
[quote]
I don't know why Polt is mentionned neither.


Because Polt was the only T to win vs P in WCS in like two weeks (apart from 1 series vs Minigun).


I think best TvPer is either Polt or Gumiho. Innovation... he's awesome ofc, but I wouldn't call him a TvP specialist, just overall good.

Innovation seemed to be the only one who doesn't pull SCV though.


No he does.

I specifically remember at least 3 games where he pulled SCVs in the midgame to win.

Artosis described it as, knowing he was just far enough ahead to go for the killing blow. Nothing cheesy about it.

Just goes to show what a little bit of good o'l caster bias does to a player's perception of a strategy.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he does strategic timing attacks


AKA "a player I like cheesing"

Also didn't he 11/11 Soulkey in the last finals as well? Pretty hilarious fanboyism there.


Innovation doesn't cheese, he uses exquisitely tuned timings to exploit the ebb and flow of the game and the weaknesses of his opponent in a game that rewards godlike play such as his

Which is why he got owned by Maru


He does cheese from time to time, but he has more to offer than just that and seems like Maru has not (at least not TvP)


This is such shit.

Maru did not get this far by just cheesing. He dominated the hell out of Symbol in macro games and won through his group mostly on Macro games also. His only victory through cheesing was Innovation, and let's be honest here with how greedy Innovation played that series he fucking deserved what he got.

Maru is being totally disregarded in this thread, his level of play is at the highest I've ever seen from the kid. His making it this far was no fluke and it definitely wasn't because he didn't deserve it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2151
On August 10 2013 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
I wonder why we hit so few viewers

everyone sleeping who watched TI3. and timezone
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2152
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 10 2013 09:35 GMT
#2153
On August 10 2013 18:35 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
I wonder why we hit so few viewers



5 am in NA, TI3 and WCS EU this afternoon.

also the downtime could be a factor i came home like at 11:10 now it's 11:35 and i haven't seen a game yet ._.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2154
BoxeR bluffing Maru into playing macro game. Coach's mind game is beautiful
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2155
On August 10 2013 18:34 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:33 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:29 PerSe wrote:
It's not the fact that Maru 'cheeses.' Cheese is a legitimate strategy. But some people are bothered when the inferior macro player requires cheese to win.

Well said.


sounds like the superior macro player should have practiced holding cheese better


It's called
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2156
Didn't have enough time to cook something decent for breakfast, so I had to eat some instant noodles.

Now my mouth tastes like shit. What is that stuff made off ~_~
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 09:36:34
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2157
Rain pls win the next two games so we don't have another break. I need to sleep peacefully knowing Maru lost
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2158
I think I'm going to die of esports this weekend. Up late watching TI3, up early for this, straight into WCS EU and then a wee break before some how duo watching TI3 and WCS AM.

"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2159
On August 10 2013 18:35 BongChambers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:33 Wintex wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:32 jonich0n wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 Wintex wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:30 opterown wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:24 Fionn wrote:
Maru should just throw his hook at the Nexus and recall into his base to kill Rain instantly


that was like the most bullcrap game in a while =.=

StrongFu failed a bit tho. Sick plays from Mr Ishutin tho.

TongFu vs IG was incredibly boring

I was sleeping, THANKS FOR SPOILING THE LACK OF FUN LOL (I don't care about spoilers. I hope iG does well!)


This is legitimate proof that Dota2 is literally consuming SC2 lol


its new and hyped, it'll shrink too
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#2160
On August 10 2013 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
I wonder why we hit so few viewers


40 min break between games can do that
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
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