Just watched the VODs. I love that Maru is doing so well, I didn't dare to hope he'd take out Innovation, much less 4-0! I don't care who he's up against in the finals, I'm totally rooting for him.

usethis2

2164 Posts

July 31 2013 02:50 GMT

#2065

Wow I didn't know this happened. Gotta check it out. I suppose Artosis' wrait... err.. curse was in full swing? Was he bitter?

slowbacontron

United States7722 Posts

July 31 2013 03:02 GMT

#2066

On July 31 2013 11:50 usethis2 wrote:
Wow I didn't know this happened. Gotta check it out. I suppose Artosis' wrait... err.. curse was in full swing? Was he bitter?

I didn't see this broadcast, but recently I think he's been slowly but surely accepting the reality and inevitability of the curse.

babylon

8765 Posts

July 31 2013 03:13 GMT

#2067

On July 31 2013 11:50 usethis2 wrote:
Wow I didn't know this happened. Gotta check it out. I suppose Artosis' wrait... err.. curse was in full swing? Was he bitter?

I haven't seen you for some time! Do you still hate Curious?

usethis2

2164 Posts

July 31 2013 03:17 GMT

#2068

Well, "hate" is too strong a word. I don't hate anyone. I just think he is overrated and overachieving.

usethis2

2164 Posts

July 31 2013 03:18 GMT

#2069

Oh, btw I think Symbol is the undeserving one these days among the Zergs.

WombaT

Northern Ireland27006 Posts

July 31 2013 03:20 GMT

#2070

Symbol is a consistent baller, god sake

babylon

8765 Posts

July 31 2013 03:23 GMT

#2071

I admit I haven't seen many of Symbol's games, but he has the most mediocre record I've seen for someone who constantly manages to make it far in WCS. 53% overall.

Even Curious in WoL maintained an over 60% win-rate while sitting around the Code A/S bottleneck.

omisa

United States494 Posts

July 31 2013 04:00 GMT

#2072

Wow Maru total domination!

Never been a Prime fan but by game 4 i was cheering for Maru lol.

Oh shit 420 posts!

blobrus

4297 Posts

July 31 2013 05:44 GMT

#2073

On July 31 2013 10:45 Assirra wrote:

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On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:

On July 30 2013 21:57 redviper wrote:
Innovation is really the best player in the world. Lolololololoooool (can't type enough lolz on tur phone).

And still, I bet he will be number on power rank. Mary read him like a book, opened it up and then burned all the pages.

Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

innovation has won the grand total of ONE tournament.

remember when taeja was unbeatable? Remember when fruitdealer was unbeatable?

right now, Maru is a better player. Lucky for innovation that osl bo1 format kept him safe in ro32.

Disagree heavily. Maru's TvT may be better, it probably is, but Innovation is still the overall better player. If you wanna go down the tournaments won route, how many has Maru won?

I don't think Maru is the best player. I said Maru is a better player right now.

Innovation is nowhere near the levels of the hype that people seem to associate to him. He didn't show any innovation (haha) or insight in his matches ever. Yeah he has good mechanics but how has he evolved the metagame?

And where did I say that Innovation is the best player? I just said that he's overall better than Maru. Your arguments can be reflected back on Maru. Innovation has better mechanics. So what exactly makes Maru better? He sure as hell isn't the most creative player. He also hasn't evolved the metagame whereas Innovation sure as hell has. People are trying to copy his TvZ and TvP style as we speak.

Maru is a lot more creative than Innovation. Even in the old GSTL days where MKP was driving the prime team Maru showed new strats.

Hahah though Tasteless jokingly predicted that Maru will 4-0!

And I bet you Maru isn't going to be top 3 in the power rank for july.

he'll be there, but if innovation wins SPL and places high in the season 2 finals, innovation will still be #1

Considering that the PR are once a month so far unless they change it those 2 tournaments won't count.

Shouldn't matter tbh, no player really has a better claim to the #1 rank.

tuho12345

4482 Posts

July 31 2013 05:47 GMT

#2074

lol Maru played so well haha, he knew exactly what Innovation was gonna do in all 4 games

Popkiller

3415 Posts

July 31 2013 07:56 GMT

#2075

On July 31 2013 14:44 blobrus wrote:

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On July 30 2013 22:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:

On July 30 2013 22:33 redviper wrote:

On July 30 2013 22:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:

On July 30 2013 22:22 redviper wrote:

On July 30 2013 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:

On July 30 2013 22:06 redviper wrote:

On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:

Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

Disagree heavily. Maru's TvT may be better, it probably is, but Innovation is still the overall better player. If you wanna go down the tournaments won route, how many has Maru won?

he'll be there, but if innovation wins SPL and places high in the season 2 finals, innovation will still be #1

Considering that the PR are once a month so far unless they change it those 2 tournaments won't count.

Shouldn't matter tbh, no player really has a better claim to the #1 rank.

Yeah, I'm interested in the people saying "Innovation no longer #1!" ...who would they put at #1?

I dunno, Innovation shows such domination when he wins, and when he loses it's so one-sided and goofy it's hard to know how to weigh its significance.

I think his reverse-sweep loss to SK showed more weakness than his loss to Maru, since TvZ is his best matchup and one he should be comfortable in. With TvT however, the patch shook everything up and it's clear Inno will have to take some time to get a handle on the matchup.

Wildmoon

Thailand4189 Posts

July 31 2013 11:52 GMT

#2076

LOL didn't expect this. Innovation got owned so hard. Some part of this community are just plain dumb for saying this is anything but Maru's skill and Innovation's fault.

invisible.terran

United States280 Posts

July 31 2013 13:24 GMT

#2077

This probably is a stupid question, but is there anywhere I can get the VODs without a subscription?

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

July 31 2013 13:31 GMT

#2078

On July 31 2013 22:24 invisible.terran wrote:
This probably is a stupid question, but is there anywhere I can get the VODs without a subscription?

Here:

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile

go under highlights

affliction

Germany198 Posts

July 31 2013 16:05 GMT

#2079

Yea. So if he wins like a beast and loses like a noob i guess you can locate him somewhere in the middle. He had a very short span of dominance now. Let's see what happens.

Concerning your question about who is number one: I guess every race has its very strong players. Terran has Inno/Flash/MVP (yes, NEVER ever count MVP out), Zerg has Soulkey and Life, Protoss has Rain (most solid player that the Protoss race has ever had i think) and maybe Sora soon (i like sOs but hes a little too gimicky for my taste)?